Bye Bye Louisville

[InVOLuntary]

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[Electric Orange]

 

[McDad]

The colossal set on that dude to rescue his dog and face punch a kanga is inspiring.

The colossal set on that dude to rescue his dog and face punch a kanga is inspiring.

 

[BreatheUT]

I'm told it's a great movement!

Isn't this terrorist indoctrination behavior?

 

[0nelilreb]

Apologies. I read from all your Past posts that you are a law abiding solid citizen and I accept this reply 100%. This is my mistake as I intended to write and should have written if the Police mistakenly .......

I am , and I believe we are all for the most part against no knock warrants . The risk reward factor is too great and this is the area where overreach of armed policing comes in . Everyone at your door that wants to come inside your home should have to announce themselves loudly so the home owner can hear them and their intentions . About me being law abiding .. I am for the most part other than small stuff , but I try my best to stay off of any armed groups radar good guys bad guys or bad bad guys like the feds ( lol ) . I do understand what you meant if they come to my door by accident but , I hope that is a situation that never happens . I would hope if it did I would be awake enough to understand them as they breach the door yelling that they are the police .

 

[BreatheUT]

Sir Charles bringing the truth.

Probably made dumb Kenny feel stupid. I thought they would've gotten rid of him by now.

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

 

[BreatheUT]

They didnt want planes landing going over protestors because the are lunatics and felons with illegal guns and lasers who might point and shoot at airplanes. I mean hell they are already protesting the justice system working correctly because it didn't appease their feelings so they are crazy enough to do anything.

If we allow this stuff to happen without severe penalty then we are no better than a 3rd world country.

 

[Roustabout]

You know how to eliminate **** like this? Stop the police from acting like Seal Team 6 (yeah they **** up a lot too). They could have taken them outside coming or going done it during the day or hell even made sure the people on the inside knew exactly who was at the door.

Procedures and policies must be changed for simple search warrants, finding some drugs isn't worth a suspect or officers life.

I don’t disagree regarding policies and procedures: However, I could show you a number of scenarios where officers were fired on and killed serving warrants. Kenny Moats in Blount County.

This warrant was connected to violent drug dealers.

 

[hog88]

I don’t disagree regarding policies and procedures: However, I could show you a number of scenarios where officers were fired on and killed serving warrants. Kenny Moats in Blount County.

This warrant was connected to violent drug dealers.

My SIL is a cop and I have told him not to do stupid **** like this. No arrest for dope is worth him widowing my daughter or being prosecuted for a screwed up raid.

 

[n_huffhines]

You gotta be ******* *****ing me with this. This is why it pays to be skeptical of a single witness @volinbham (tho I'm not taking this opinion piece as gospel, so corrections welcome):

In what was probably the most frustrating part of Cameron’s press event, he cited a single witness who claimed to have heard the officers identify themselves as police. I spoke with Taylor’s lawyers in June, who at that time had interviewed 11 of her neighbors. Many lived in the same apartment building as Taylor. According to the lawyers, no neighbor heard an announcement. The New York Times interviewed 12 neighbors. They found one — just one — who heard an announcement. And he only heard one announcement. He also told the paper that with all the commotion, it’s entirely possible that Walker and Taylor didn’t hear that announcement. Cameron neglected to mention any of this.

Moreover, in a CNN interview Wednesday night, Walker’s attorney, Steven Romines, said the witness to whom Cameron was referring initially said he did not hear the police announce themselves. And he repeated that assertion in a second interview. It was only after his third interview that he finally said he heard an announcement. That’s critical context that Cameron neglected to mention.

https://www-washingtonpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/24/correcting-misinformation-about-breonna-taylor/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA=#aoh=16010549461234&csi=1&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/24/correcting-misinformation-about-breonna-taylor/

edit: didn't even realize this is Balko. He's the man, and does his homework

 

[McDad]

You gotta be ******* *****ing me with this

In what was probably the most frustrating part of Cameron’s press event, he cited a single witness who claimed to have heard the officers identify themselves as police. I spoke with Taylor’s lawyers in June, who at that time had interviewed 11 of her neighbors. Many lived in the same apartment building as Taylor. According to the lawyers, no neighbor heard an announcement. The New York Times interviewed 12 neighbors. They found one — just one — who heard an announcement. And he only heard one announcement. He also told the paper that with all the commotion, it’s entirely possible that Walker and Taylor didn’t hear that announcement. Cameron neglected to mention any of this.

Moreover, in a CNN interview Wednesday night, Walker’s attorney, Steven Romines, said the witness to whom Cameron was referring initially said he did not hear the police announce themselves. And he repeated that assertion in a second interview. It was only after his third interview that he finally said he heard an announcement. That’s critical context that Cameron neglected to mention.

https://www-washingtonpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/24/correcting-misinformation-about-breonna-taylor/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA=#aoh=16010549461234&csi=1&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/24/correcting-misinformation-about-breonna-taylor/

the lone witness who heard the police announce is a paper thin alibi.

 

[1972 Grad]

My SIL is a cop and I have told him not to do stupid **** like this. No arrest for dope is worth him widowing my daughter or being prosecuted for a screwed up raid.

Your sister-in-law is a he?

 

[volfanjustin]

My SIL is a cop and I have told him not to do stupid **** like this. No arrest for dope is worth him widowing my daughter or being prosecuted for a screwed up raid.

I would advise him to either find a new line of work or if he just has to be a cop to never ever pull over or try to arrest any black person for anything.

 

[hog88]

Your sister-in-law is a he?

Son in law

 

[1972 Grad]

Son in law

I should have done the blue ink thingy.

 

[volfanjustin]

Your sister-in-law is a he?

It's 2020 so, His zie-in-law is an em.

 

[TheDeeble]

You gotta be ******* *****ing me with this. This is why it pays to be skeptical of a single witness @volinbham (tho I'm not taking this opinion piece as gospel, so corrections welcome):

In what was probably the most frustrating part of Cameron’s press event, he cited a single witness who claimed to have heard the officers identify themselves as police. I spoke with Taylor’s lawyers in June, who at that time had interviewed 11 of her neighbors. Many lived in the same apartment building as Taylor. According to the lawyers, no neighbor heard an announcement. The New York Times interviewed 12 neighbors. They found one — just one — who heard an announcement.

Here's something I was wondering about as a genuine question. This happened at roughly 12:30am wasn't it? How many of those 11 people were awake at that point? Were any of them awake? Was this I didn't hear police announce themselves and I was awake and near my door where I would have heard it? Or was this I didn't hear police announce themselves because I was asleep?

When I think back to when I lived in an apartment, if I were asleep in my bedroom I wouldn't have heard anyone knocking on my neighbor's door. My room was in the back of the apartment and there was a wall and distance between me and the wall separating my apartment from the outside.

I'd imagine when Taylor's lawyer's asked did you hear police announce themselves and the answer was no, they quit asking more questions that would jeopardize that statement.

 

[C-south]

Riiight...she certainly seemed to be turning her life around.

She was test driving a new dude.

 

[volfanjustin]

Here's something I was wondering about as a genuine question. This happened at roughly 12:30am wasn't it? How many of those 11 people were awake at that point? Were any of them awake? Was this I didn't hear police announce themselves and I was awake and near my door where I would have heard it? Or was this I didn't hear police announce themselves because I was asleep?

When I think back to when I lived in an apartment, if I were asleep in my bedroom I wouldn't have heard anyone knocking on my neighbor's door. My room was in the back of the apartment and there was a wall and distance between me and the wall separating my apartment from the outside.

I'd imagine when Taylor's lawyer's asked did you hear police announce themselves and the answer was no, they quit asking more questions that would jeopardize that statement.

You are right. When I lived in an apartment I couldn't tell you every time someone knocked on my neighbors door, especially after midnight. Some with an agenda want to make way too much out of that part of this story.

 

[n_huffhines]

Here's something I was wondering about as a genuine question. This happened at roughly 12:30am wasn't it? How many of those 11 people were awake at that point? Were any of them awake? Was this I didn't hear police announce themselves and I was awake and near my door where I would have heard it? Or was this I didn't hear police announce themselves because I was asleep?

When I think back to when I lived in an apartment, if I were asleep in my bedroom I wouldn't have heard anyone knocking on my neighbor's door. My room was in the back of the apartment and there was a wall and distance between me and the wall separating my apartment from the outside.

I'd imagine when Taylor's lawyer's asked did you hear police announce themselves and the answer was no, they quit asking more questions that would jeopardize that statement.

I can't imagine a modest apartment complex where cops banging repeatedly on a door and announcing themselves several times wouldn't wake up at least a few neighbors. Only way that's possible is if she had no immediate neighbors.

What's worse? Stopping after 11 initial statements or relentlessly fishing for one specific answer a single time (in three tries) and then accepting that as key evidence?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Body cam footage would clear everything thing up but alas.

 

[TheDeeble]

I can't imagine a modest apartment complex where cops banging repeatedly on a door and announcing themselves several times wouldn't wake up at least a few neighbors. Only way that's possible is if she had no immediate neighbors.

What's worse? Stopping after 11 initial statements or relentlessly fishing for one specific answer a single time (in three tries) and then accepting that as key evidence?

Without knowing who was actually awake and where they live in relation to that apartment I wouldn't be able to give an honest guess. Did the police question those same 12 people? Or was it just Taylor's lawyers? I don't remember seeing the article referenced say the police investigation questioned 12 surrounding neighbors. Just Taylor's lawyers and the NY Times. It wouldn't surprise me if police questioned people until they found a witness and quit. Just like it wouldn't surprise me if a bunch of people were questioned by Taylor's lawyer's when they weren't really that close to her apartment but it made their case look good to be able to say 11 people didn't hear police .

I don't know what her apartment layout is. At mine, there were only 3 other apartment doors visible from mine. I was on the 2nd floor. You'd have to go to the 1st floor to get to any of my other neighbors and there were only 4 more apartments there. Had to go to the 3rd floor to reach neighbors 9-12. I know I wouldn't have heard someone knocking on a door on the floors above or below me. Maybe if it was the apartment directly above or below mine.

 

[1972 Grad]

Without knowing who was actually awake and where they live in relation to that apartment I wouldn't be able to give an honest guess. Did the police question those same 12 people? Or was it just Taylor's lawyers? I don't remember seeing the article referenced say the police investigation questioned 12 surrounding neighbors. Just Taylor's lawyers and the NY Times. It wouldn't surprise me if police questioned people until they found a witness and quit. Just like it wouldn't surprise me if a bunch of people were questioned by Taylor's lawyer's when they weren't really that close to her apartment but it made their case look good to be able to say 11 people didn't hear police .

I don't know what her apartment layout is. At mine, there were only 3 other apartment doors visible from mine. I was on the 2nd floor. You'd have to go to the 1st floor to get to any of my other neighbors and there were only 4 more apartments there. Had to go to the 3rd floor to reach neighbors 9-12. I know I wouldn't have heard someone knocking on a door on the floors above or below me. Maybe if it was the apartment directly above or below mine.

Huff was on scene. He is CERTAIN that the cops are at fault.

 

[lukeneyland]

Unless I’m missing something, it doesn’t seem fair to prosecute the officers. They were ordered to conduct a raid so they did. To me the blame exists with whoever at the top ordered this type of raid.