Butler is no 7 seed...

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Dylan Stevens

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I think UT got a bad draw.

Having to possibly play Butler and Louisville back to back sucks. I don't see how they got a 7 seed. They are much better than that.
 
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Butler is probably a 4/5 seed. I think they are more upset than us because they are lower seeded and also have to play South Alabama in Birmingham.
 
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Oldblood said:
Butler is probably a 4/5 seed. I think they are more upset than us because they are lower seeded and also have to play South Alabama in Birmingham.
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I agree with the 4/5 seed.

And yes they are upset i'd say, but they should do away with South Bama regardless.
 
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Butler was ranked in the top 10 in the entire country, and they won their conference tournament, yet they are a 7 seed. I just don't get some of this.
 
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Butler, in my opinion, is a horrible matchup for Tennessee. A team that plays with excellent discipline, very good PG play and drains the shot clock. We saw how this defense defends the pick-and-roll and the back-door cut vs. Florida in the 1st half in Knoxville. Butler will do that all day vs. this defense. If this game happens, this is a game where our PG's will absolutely have to shine or we'll not see Charlotte.
 
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I agree, I think Butler got shafted...Just look at UNC's draw, They'll play the winner of Arkansas and Indiana...Not an easy bracket by any means
 
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Tennessee's march to the final four has UNDOUBTEDLY got to be harder then any other team in the tourney...Butler, Louisville, AND UNC!!!!....unbelievable
 
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Well I guess we'll just have to earn it huh?..go out there and git er done...nobody said life was easy...now lets go out there and EARN our first NC in mens basketball...I know the women are sure gonna do it, Lets be the 2nd school ever to win both mens and ladies championships in the same year...damn those huskies lol
 
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Looks like a set-up for NC. Flood the bracket with several good teams to knock each other off and take the legs out of who eventually plays NC...my best conspiracy theory.
 
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Greetings, Vol Nation. I come in peace. I'm a Butler grad, but my old man is a UT grad, so there's always a soft spot in my heart for the Vols.

I'm surprised at a few of the comments on this thread inferring that Butler is somehow not as good a team this year. Here are some facts:

Last year, Butler got an At-Large 5 seed, and this was our resume: 25-6, 6-4 last 10, 2nd in conference regular season & conference tourney, 4-1 vs RPI top 50, 7-3 vs RPI top 100, 3 "bad" losses to 100+ RPI teams.

This year, we received a 7 seed, and here's our resume: 28-3, 9-1 last 10, 1st in conference regular season, won conference tourney, 1-1 vs RPI top 50, 8-3 vs RPI top 100, no "bad" losses. We can't really help it that Ohio State, Texas Tech, Va Tech, Florida State, and Southern Illinois had down years at the same time.

We lost our head coach (3rd coach to leave for a major program in the past 10 years, so we're used to it), and two starters, Brandon Crone and Brian Ligon. Ligon was mainly a defensive post presence, and Crone was a versatile power forward, all 6'6" of him.

However, the new coach is from within the system, our backcourt has one more year of experience, and we have an inside scoring threat for the first time since I can remember (Matt Howard, FR). Howard turned down offers from X, Purdue, and IU to come to Butler, and he's been as good as advertised. We have one of the best recruiting classes in Butler history as freshmen, plus we added Avery Jukes, a forward who transferred from 'Bama who has done a nice job in limited minutes off the bench.

Most Butler fans will agree that this team is better than last year's, on paper, and on the court.
 
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Welcome to the board. Good luck against So. Alabama, but I hope we crush you. :)
 
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ButlerDawgs said:
Greetings, Vol Nation. I come in peace. I'm a Butler grad, but my old man is a UT grad, so there's always a soft spot in my heart for the Vols.

I'm surprised at a few of the comments on this thread inferring that Butler is somehow not as good a team this year. Here are some facts:

Last year, Butler got an At-Large 5 seed, and this was our resume: 25-6, 6-4 last 10, 2nd in conference regular season & conference tourney, 4-1 vs RPI top 50, 7-3 vs RPI top 100, 3 "bad" losses to 100+ RPI teams.

This year, we received a 7 seed, and here's our resume: 28-3, 9-1 last 10, 1st in conference regular season, won conference tourney, 1-1 vs RPI top 50, 8-3 vs RPI top 100, no "bad" losses. We can't really help it that Ohio State, Texas Tech, Va Tech, Florida State, and Southern Illinois had down years at the same time.

We lost our head coach (3rd coach to leave for a major program in the past 10 years, so we're used to it), and two starters, Brandon Crone and Brian Ligon. Ligon was mainly a defensive post presence, and Crone was a versatile power forward, all 6'6" of him.

However, the new coach is from within the system, our backcourt has one more year of experience, and we have an inside scoring threat for the first time since I can remember (Matt Howard, FR). Howard turned down offers from X, Purdue, and IU to come to Butler, and he's been as good as advertised. We have one of the best recruiting classes in Butler history as freshmen, plus we added Avery Jukes, a forward who transferred from 'Bama who has done a nice job in limited minutes off the bench.

Most Butler fans will agree that this team is better than last year's, on paper, and on the court.
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I think most people here are arguing that you are better than a 7 seed.
 
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Like I said, a FEW of the comments prompted my response. Just wanted to make sure the facts were out there before people started jumping to conclusions.

Hopefully we see you guys in the second round. You can't take any opponent for granted in the tourney (especially as a 7 seed), but that said, I think we'll take care of business against South Alabama.

I think a Butler-UT matchup in the second round would be intriguing. Pearl obviously knows Butler having played them last year & with UWM back-in-the-day, and Butler plays a grind-it-out-fundamentally-sound style that could frustrate UT. You guys obviously have the edge in athleticism, though.
 
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Dylan Stevens said:
Dickens, i'd think you would know better than to completely count a team out, in march of all things.
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I'm not counting a team out.

I'm saying Butler is a 7 seed. No better and no worse.

Their schedule was incredibly weak and the one tournament team they played they lost to -- on their home floor.
 
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ButlerDawgs said:
and Butler plays a grind-it-out-fundamentally-sound style that could frustrate UT.
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Thats a key to this game IMO. Especially with both the Smiths and Crews having a short temper. If they get frustrated and try to get too aggressive they can expect a lot of fouls called their way, maybe even a T if they mouth off.

UT just needs to keep their composure.

Edit : keep in mind that this is IF this game even happens.
 
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I'm sorry I didn't realize that was the only worthwhile stat. My bad. Well, at least we were 6-1 against NIT/bubble teams.

How is Butler supposed to control how many of their opponents make it into the tourney, when the schedule is set a year in advance?

Edit: We lost to SIU on our home floor last year, and both Butler and SIU went on to the Sweet 16. Your argument doesn't make any sense, dickens. Weak schedule? Again, as one of the top mids in the country the past 10 years, top notch schools won't play us because, at best, it's an 'average' win, but a 'bad' loss. We beat all the Big 6 conference schools we played this year, but our schedule is 'weak'?
 
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ButlerDawgs said:
I'm sorry I didn't realize that was the only worthwhile stat. My bad. Well, at least we were 6-1 against NIT/bubble teams.

How is Butler supposed to control how many of their opponents make it into the tourney, when the schedule is set a year in advance?
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Schedule a good non-conference schedule like Memphis?
 
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Hahaha, the #1 team in the country at the time. Congrats on winning that one, along with Chattanooga, NCA&T, and Prarie View A&M. Give me a break...hey I see we both played Ohio State...you guys won by 5, and we won by 20. See I can play this game, too.
 
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