Butch's Reasoning

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I agree, Butch probably knew the announcement would be viewed in a negative way by vol fans. He did not want that kind of chatter leading up to signing day. OC is his choice, I hope he made the right one, time will tell. GBO
 
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AZVOLSFAN said:
I suspect there is also a reason why the Debord hire wasn't announced before signing day...
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Yeah, there is.....its all over this board.

I am going to reserve judgement, and remind everybody that the Bear didnt know anything about the Wishbone
when he adopted that offense, and went to work beating the crap out of everybody with an 8 play playbook.
 
#31
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Perhaps continuity is more important than ingenuity in Butch Jones offense?
Can continuity move the chains? Let's hope so anyway
 
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OP nailed it, IMO. Maybe I am naive or overly optimistic and certainly I don't know enough about football to comment on who the best hire for our program would be (I am betting 90% of the haters on this site don't either)...but I do know that I like Butch Jones. And I do know that he is working tirelessly to make us relevant again. And I do know that we aren't just relevant we are THE ONES TO WATCH because of this guy. And I do know that for the first time in a long long long time I am proud in a way that is not about pride but about progress...and that feel effin good! So, honestly, we should shut up and let the guy coach and that includes letting him surround himself with the staff that fits his vision..."the best staff in the country!" He might just prove us all wrong...again! GBO!
 
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snapcracklepop said:
I see that there is a massive thread concerning the Debord hiring, but I consider this topic thread worthy. Mods, if you disagree, feel free to merge.

Butch Jones, as far as we know, did not fire Mike Bajakian. Therefore, we can assume Butch was pleased with our offensive efficiency and strategy. I have heard and read where many people believe Butch is really stepping out on a limb with this hire. However, I believe Butch feels that he is playing it safe by hiring Debord and here is why:

1. Butch knew that any other "big name" offensive coordinator is going to want to implement his offensive strategy and terminology. As I previously mentioned, Butch is pleased with our offense, and he does not want it to change. If Butch really interviewed other candidates, I am sure the interview ended abruptly when the candidate was told that he would not have the freedom to bring his own offense and terminology into Knoxville. Debord, on the other hand, is obviously very willing to learn and run Butch's offense. I am sure Butch will let Debord offer advise and make suggestions, but ultimately, Debord is likely very happy to get a huge raise while wrapping up his career coaching football.

2. Butch knew that most offensive coordinators would have demanded that they bring some of their assistants along with them. Butch has shown that he loves continuity and loyalty, and we can all agree that we needed consistency in coaches around here. Obviously, Debord has no assistants that he wants to being along with him because he hasn't coached football in a few years.

3. Butch knows Debord's personality and his coaching style. After all, Debord gave Butch his start in the coaching profession. Butch did not want to take the chance of hiring some up and coming potential hot head that would come in and cause confusion in the locker room and on the practice field. Butch wants someone that will fall in line with his "one voice" mentality.

4. Butch knows that we are on the verge of something extremely special at The University of Tennessee. He knows that we need everything to stay very similar to our previous offensive concepts and strategies because we have such an overwhelmingly young team. These young guys just really got a firm grip of the offense last year, and Butch knows that it would be detrimental to bring in a guy that would start from scratch. Butch knows if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

With all of that being said, this is a HUGE hire! This hire could break Butch, and he KNOWS that too. Butch made the comfortable hire, and I really hope that we can look over at our buddies at the SEC/National Championship game in a year or two and say, "Man, Butch really gets it. Debord was a GREAT hire!"


Go Vols! and sorry this is so long!
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Agreed, The Fulmer era at its best featured close familial ties and the power trio, Phil, Cut and Chief, enjoyed great success. That was briefly rekindled when Cut came back. De Bord is much like Cut. When he was mentioned to take Phol's slot, many on this board melted down. Look at the results at Duke - - - Duke.
 
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If Butch likes the way things are, why not promote Azzani to OC? You only hire outside if something is not going right.
 
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I understand being polite, but why does everyone give the mods permission to or even suggest merging their thread? Lol
 
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dbowen said:
Agreed, The Fulmer era at its best featured close familial ties and the power trio, Phil, Cut and Chief, enjoyed great success. That was briefly rekindled when Cut came back. De Bord is much like Cut. When he was mentioned to take Phol's slot, many on this board melted down. Look at the results at Duke - - - Duke.
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DeBord is not in the same league as Cut.
 
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Other_Guy said:
I understand being polite, but why does everyone give the mods permission to or even suggest merging their thread? Lol
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Because usually they know they're starting a thread for a discussion that already exists. Imo. :)
 
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Other_Guy said:
I understand being polite, but why does everyone give the mods permission to or even suggest merging their thread? Lol
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I've never quite gotten that either. Permission or lack thereof has never really deterred me. :)
 
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I think if Butch wants him enough said period!! I can't find one thing the man has done totally wrong yet, and I'm willing to bet this ain't one either. The man said he's got this, and what has lead us to think he doesn't??? It's easier to explain nothing than something is why he waited. Smart move IMO. The worst they could say is we don't have a OC, and Butch could tell recruits don't worry it won't change. If someone was in place somebody some where would question. Look at this freakin board. With no one there whole lot less to explain!!! JMO!! GBO
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Surely you could buy into one of the OPs reasons at least. Anything less would be unreasonable.

The OP did a realistic job of portraying why Debord was hired. It's comforting to know that you are all in if we do hire him because most would just complain and complain.

Two other reasons he probably will hire him is because of his work ethnic and because he is a good fit when it comes to staff turnover and disruption. I don't see him here for a long time.
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Actually you are correct...I can agree with #3. Oversight on my part. I however do not buy #1 or 2.

He hired/will hire DeBord because that is who he wanted all along. Has nothing to do with bringing other assistants or changing the offense. A strong HC would not entertain those ideas in the slightest.
 
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Butch isn't changing the offense. He and Debord have a long history and trust one another. I am fine with this hire and have no reason to believe this hire will be anything like the Clawson, Sunseri hires.

The system won't change just the play caller.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
I'm starting to believe that the reasoning behind waiting till after signing day, was not that recruits would look elsewhere due to the OC hire but the fans reaction. As soon as the hire was brought to everyone's attention people have started degrading the coach. Yesterday he was a genius and now he doesn't have a clue (according to a handful). I believe the recruits knew who the new hire was. No one is going to flip to Tennessee at the last minute unless they had some type of clue who was going to coach them. If he made the announcement earlier the ones yelling about the hire could have cost a top 5 class.
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Haven't seen 1 post claiming Butch "doesn't have a clue". Show me. Many don't like the hire, but they are dogging Butch, just disagreeing.....because....America . Also, word has been out on Debord and fan reaction and it didn't hurt this class. Also, if Butch thought he had to wait to reveal this so the fans wouldn't cost him a top 5 class, the OC hire is the least of our worries
 
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Brentwoodvolfan said:
I think if Butch wants him enough said period!! I can't find one thing the man has done totally wrong yet, and I'm willing to bet this ain't one either. The man said he's got this, and what has lead us to think he doesn't??? It's easier to explain nothing than something is why he waited. Smart move IMO. The worst they could say is we don't have a OC, and Butch could tell recruits don't worry it won't change. If someone was in place somebody some where would question. Look at this freakin board. With no one there whole lot less to explain!!! JMO!! GBO
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He kept Dobbs off the field half the season. You sure he hasn't made a single error?
 
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armchair said:
Good grief: Most spread/read-option offenses are quite similar. Of course a new OC is going to want to implement his own strategy/tactics--that is what they do! This is the OC's job. If Jones can't handle handing the reigns to a good offensive coordinator, then he will not last long in this league. But then the "search" process was a sham--there was no search.

We're not going to run both spread and pro-style--and we'd be stupid to run pro-style because then Dobbs would not be running, and his running is one of our biggest weapons. That is why you hire a good spread OC--somebody who knows how to make out talent even more dangerous, not start running the I formation again.
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Dude you bich and moan about everything Butch does. So far he's proven to be way smarter than you so gtfooh.
 
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Is it possible to like Butch Jones yet believe he is capable of error? Getting the impression it is complete surrender or else.....
 
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OrangeInKy said:
He kept Dobbs off the field half the season. You sure he hasn't made a single error?
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I don't think he meant a single error, I took him to mean totally wrong to imply complete disaster. Also this board has discussed so many times why Dobbs didn't see the field for half the season, and for the last time it wasn't a "mistake."
 
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Aday25 said:
I don't think he meant a single error, I took him to mean totally wrong to imply complete disaster. Also this board has discussed so many times why Dobbs didn't see the field for half the season, and for the last time it wasn't a "mistake."
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Wasn't being literal. You don't think Dobbs should have played earlier? Many things are discussed on this board, doesn't make them facts
 
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