Butch's guarantee

#55
#55
Uh oh. If he only moves this class up to 5th, a lot of negas will say, 'see, he is a liar. He said 3rd ranked class'. Just like they gave him hell for saying that some people predicted 8 to 9 losses. Even though that was a fact. Because I looked it up and there was a site that had us with 3 wins this year. I posted several of the sites and their predictions in a earlier thread. Don't feel like finding all of em again for that cult of fans.
 
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roddo518 said:
Uh oh. If he only moves this class up to 5th, a lot of negas will say, 'see, he is a liar. He said 3rd ranked class'. Just like they gave him hell for saying that some people predicted 8 to 9 losses. Even though that was a fact. Because I looked it up and there was a site that had us with 3 wins this year. I posted several of the sites and their predictions in a earlier thread. Don't feel like finding all of em again for that cult of fans.
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That "best coaching staff in America" and "My name is Butch Jones" tho? :ermm:
 
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Freak said:
He is a master of coach speak. There's no denying it. Sometimes I think he sounds like an infomercial for Tennessee. And that's not a bad thing. He's always selling.
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Oh, definitely.

Oddly, that was one of the first things I thought when I noticed all the cameras set up around him to record and take pictures of when they poured the Gatorade on him yesterday.
 
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McDad said:
I am probably looking through my orange tinted specs but does anyone notice how butch seems to revel in a win compared to other coaches? Urban, Saban, Richt, etc will smile and give pats on the balls and hugs. Butch seems to dance/hop and really get into it. If I were a recruit on the fence, I would definitely notice that.
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Urban, Saban, and Richt have done it a few times more. Just sayin'.

That said, this is one of the reasons I love watching Pete Carroll coach so much. There's so much joy that comes out of him, whether his teams are playing in the Superbowl or playing in the Alamo Bowl. I've never not seen him look absolutely overjoyed to be coaching football.
 
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#61
We will finish with

Phillips 4*
Allen 4*
Sapp 4*
Jones 4*
Love 4*

And Ford will get a bump to 4*

We will finish 4-5 on Rivals.
 
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roddo518 said:
Just like they gave him hell for saying that some people predicted 8 to 9 losses. Even though that was a fact. Because I looked it up and there was a site that had us with 3 wins this year. I posted several of the sites and their predictions in a earlier thread. Don't feel like finding all of em again for that cult of fans.
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Do you have that exact quote handy? Because I don't recall him qualifying that statement. I believe he said "the experts" as if it were many, most, or all. That particular statement was hyperbole bordering on pure BS.
 
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Jones probably has a really good idea how this class will finish... and 3rd or 4th isn't out of the question on Rivals. IIRC, only the top 20 commits count toward the rankings. With two or 3 highly ranked 4* players, UT could pass Clemson and UGA.
 
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sjt18 said:
Do you have that exact quote handy? Because I don't recall him qualifying that statement. I believe he said "the experts" as if it were many, most, or all. That particular statement was hyperbole bordering on pure BS.
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Truthfully, he only needs two "experts" (analysts, journalists, etc) in order to make that statement. In fact, he would seek out negative press in order to motivate his staff and players.
 
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AstroDobbs said:
We will finish with

Phillips 4*
Allen 4*
Sapp 4*
Jones 4*
Love 4*

And Ford will get a bump to 4*

We will finish 4-5 on Rivals.
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I wouldn't count on that bump. I know he's performed well at the all star game but those who do the recruit ratings don't like to admit they were wrong.
 
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McDad said:
Truthfully, he only needs two "experts" (analysts, journalists, etc) in order to make that statement. In fact, he would seek out negative press in order to motivate his staff and players.
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No. It would be "some experts" or just "experts"... not "the experts". Unless of course he's saying that only the rare opinions that UT would lose 8 or 9 games were the only valid ones.

Most national predictions were 5-7 wins. Even that was biased by the low expectations set by the performance of UT over the past 6 years.

This was a 6-8 win team against this schedule.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. It would be "some experts" or just "experts"... not "the experts". Unless of course he's saying that only the rare opinions that UT would lose 8 or 9 games were the only valid ones.

Most national predictions were 5-7 wins. Even that was biased by the low expectations set by the performance of UT over the past 6 years.

This was a 6-8 win team against this schedule.
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No. One expert= expert. 2 or more = expertS. No need to over think it.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. It would be "some experts" or just "experts"... not "the experts". Unless of course he's saying that only the rare opinions that UT would lose 8 or 9 games were the only valid ones.

Most national predictions were 5-7 wins. Even that was biased by the low expectations set by the performance of UT over the past 6 years.

This was a 6-8 win team against this schedule.
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Throughout our disagreements, I've admired your proclivity to contrive your own trivial issues to whine about...disappointing to see you piggybacking. :sad:
 
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McDad said:
No. One expert= expert. 2 or more = expertS. No need to over think it.
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NO. One expert DOES NOT equal "the experts". Nor does two.

You may be able to find the exact quote and prove me wrong but I am 99% sure he said "the experts"... not "expert" or "experts".

It was obviously extreme hyperbole... but you are wrong about the meaning of the statement when taken literally. Saying "the" experts literally means ALL of them.
 
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butchna said:
Throughout our disagreements, I've admired your proclivity to contrive your own trivial issues to whine about...disappointing to see you piggybacking. :sad:
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No whining.... or even a complaint with Jones or the program. Jones has somewhat of a "proclivity" to hyperbole but many good coaches do. Spurrier has made a career of it.
 
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sjt18 said:
NO. One expert DOES NOT equal "the experts". Nor does two.

You may be able to find the exact quote and prove me wrong but I am 99% sure he said "the experts"... not "expert" or "experts".

It was obviously extreme hyperbole... but you are wrong about the meaning of the statement when taken literally. Saying "the" experts literally means ALL of them.
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You are being unnecessarily obtuse; even for you. I did NOT say 1 = expertS (plural). 1 is expert. 2 or more is "experts". One can put any article in front of the word experts one chooses.
 
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#74
Tennessee is ranked No. 4 in the latest 247 recruiting rankings after today's Phillips commit. Fwiw.
 
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