Butch to allow 7 on 7

#76
#76
As much as I disapprove of him as a coach, this is a good change in philosophy.

It'll be nice for our qb to have chemistry with more than one receiver.
 
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While I am happy to see us doing 7 v 7's, I am more excited to see Butch willing to change things like this. He may still be able to grow into a UT coach if he keeps an open mind to further changes.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Firing and retiring 2 different things.
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Shula was fired. Dinardo was fired. Paul Hackett was fired. Zook was fired. Hoke was fired. Bill O'Brien was fired.

And while outwardly amiable... I have read that Beamer really didn't want to resign. He just handled it much better than Fulmer.

I think CBJ can do it due to the way 120 didn't give in or quit when the chips were down(Fl and Ga).
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You have to counterbalance that with the poor play that put them in a bad position to start with.... and the causes for that poor play which include poor game strategy.

After beating a good Florida team and a decent Ga, that got him some credit that was used up by SC and Vandy.
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So he beat UF and UGA... in games where UT was favored and that gave him credit to balance losing two games that should have been laughers?

2017 all bets are off. Time to get it done.
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I'm not trying to goad you... but do you know how many times that has been posted here since the end of year 2 and especially after year 3? Maybe not you... but if Jones finishes 7-5 and is retained... there will be someone here saying that the "time to perform is 2018"... six years is long enough.

You have to love UT fans for being longsuffering. But one of the reasons we have to be longsuffering is that we are WAY too willing to suffer mediocre performance for a long time.
 
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sjt18 said:
You have to love UT fans for being longsuffering. But one of the reasons we have to be longsuffering is that we are WAY too willing to suffer mediocre performance for a long time.
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You're a trip.

I'm sick of this mediocre crap, it's past time for winning. I'm totally with you. Now what?
 
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Behr said:
You're a trip.

I'm sick of this mediocre crap, it's past time for winning. I'm totally with you. Now what?
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Wait, are you suggesting that there may be more involved than posters on VN that scream "I love mediocrity"?

Holy crap. If true, this could throw off the entire balance of the universe. At least for those convinced that 200 VN posters decide who Haslam chooses and what he will pay.

Anarchy.
 
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Yer jest blowing my mind, dudes, just totally freaking me out. I completely had no idea we could vote for more wins. Sign me the heck up!
 
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Behr said:
You're a trip.

I'm sick of this mediocre crap, it's past time for winning. I'm totally with you. Now what?
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:hi:

Help me convince those who aren't with us? If you pay attention... you'll probably notice a lot more of them than maybe you think right now.
 
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chargervol said:
Wait, are you suggesting that there may be more involved than posters on VN that scream "I love mediocrity"?

Holy crap. If true, this could throw off the entire balance of the universe. At least for those convinced that 200 VN posters decide who Haslam chooses and what he will pay.

Anarchy.
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Straw man responses... are usually a good sign that you've struck on the truth.
 
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sjt18 said:
Straw man responses... are usually a good sign that you've struck on the truth.
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I agree.
Your assertion that VN posters loving mediocrity, having complete control over who is hired, isn't absurd at all.

Crazy all those the reports claiming that the biggest donors at UT keep getting their way and hiring/firing as they choose. Butchna, that's the real mastermind. One day, everyone will figure out what we have. I got ya back bro. :)
 
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sjt18 said:
:hi:

Help me convince those who aren't with us? If you pay attention... you'll probably notice a lot more of them than maybe you think right now.
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I know there are more than you think there are.
 
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sjt18 said:
Shula was fired. Dinardo was fired. Paul Hackett was fired. Zook was fired. Hoke was fired. Bill O'Brien was fired.

And while outwardly amiable... I have read that Beamer really didn't want to resign. He just handled it much better than Fulmer.

You have to counterbalance that with the poor play that put them in a bad position to start with.... and the causes for that poor play which include poor game strategy.

So he beat UF and UGA... in games where UT was favored and that gave him credit to balance losing two games that should have been laughers?

I'm not trying to goad you... but do you know how many times that has been posted here since the end of year 2 and especially after year 3? Maybe not you... but if Jones finishes 7-5 and is retained... there will be someone here saying that the "time to perform is 2018"... six years is long enough.

You have to love UT fans for being longsuffering. But one of the reasons we have to be longsuffering is that we are WAY too willing to suffer mediocre performance for a long time.
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Too willing?

I'm at the mercy of the team. I'm not going anywhere but to as many games as possible.

I'm addicted to Vol football, and I don't mind being an addict. I've never tried to break the habit
 
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sjt18 said:
No. But the assertion that I have EVER claimed the above is absurd.
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Probably.
I'm sure I just misunderstand your continual posts along the line of
"all the butch apologists on here, willing to settle, are the reason why".

I get crazy like that sometimes.
 
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sjt18 said:
Shula was fired. Dinardo was fired. Paul Hackett was fired. Zook was fired. Hoke was fired. Bill O'Brien was fired.

And while outwardly amiable... I have read that Beamer really didn't want to resign. He just handled it much better than Fulmer.

You have to counterbalance that with the poor play that put them in a bad position to start with.... and the causes for that poor play which include poor game strategy.

So he beat UF and UGA... in games where UT was favored and that gave him credit to balance losing two games that should have been laughers?

I'm not trying to goad you... but do you know how many times that has been posted here since the end of year 2 and especially after year 3? Maybe not you... but if Jones finishes 7-5 and is retained... there will be someone here saying that the "time to perform is 2018"... six years is long enough.

You have to love UT fans for being longsuffering. But one of the reasons we have to be longsuffering is that we are WAY too willing to suffer mediocre performance for a long time.
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Bill O'Brien wasn't fired..
 
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chargervol said:
Probably.
I'm sure I just misunderstand your continual posts along the line of
"all the butch apologists on here, willing to settle, are the reason why".

I get crazy like that sometimes.
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And I am sure that I just misunderstand the posts of those whose reaction to any and all criticism is to deflect, excuse, or dismiss in an obvious effort to act as if failures aren't really failures but just "reasonable expectations". I am also sure I misunderstand those who make excuses that DIRECTLY imply that UT should not expect more. If you have not seen them.... you aren't looking.
 
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#96
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Burger said:
This will make no difference on anything.
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If you are referring to 7 on 7, I disagree completely.

More repetitions are good. Spreading those repetitions out are especially good when you hope to avoid fatigue, soft tissue injuries to receivers and arm fatigue to QB's.

I think the prohibition was incredibly dumb from the start. But hopefully Jones' change is a result of seeing just how dumb it was.
 
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Burger said:
7 on 7 is practically routes against air. There is no pass rush, so it doesn't simulate anything. I actually think with QD that it'll be insignificant.
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Not really. The missing piece is the pass rush which isn't a bad thing. It allows an intermediate step in the process of developing rapport. It also gives vital reps to DB's and LB's in pass coverage. There can never be enough reps in organized practices to hone DB instincts in coverage.

IMHO, the positive impact on DB's could be greater than on O players.

Good move by Jones. Should not have been necessary... but at least it is now fixed.
 
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Burger said:
This will make no difference on anything.
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Got to disagree. There have been too many articles to count over the last 20 years in which guys like Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Deynarius Thomas, etc attribute their success in the passing game to reps, reps, and more reps.
 
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