Butch tells Volnation "Shut-up and strap-in"

I wasn't pretending anything. Just laid out what I thought were the relevant points to be considered regarding his career and candidacy. Clearly the coaches and administration saw more than the "negative" and "biased" points I listed. What do you think were the positive and unbiased points they saw in DeBord that I failed to mention?

Those fall under the "Blah blah" I mentioned. lol
Look, people have mentioned the positives in every single debate. You can read them anywhere. I have no intention of re-typing them because I'm not campaigning for the guy. You have already read them , I'm sure.


Come on man. you listed the record for "the last time he and Butch worked together". The record at cmu with Debord as hc has 0 to do with now... I know that you know that.
 
Am I missing a joke?

What exactly did DeBord do as an offensive coordinator that won defensive back Charles Woodson the Heisman?

You're joking right? It was his TDs on offense (all three of them) which pipped Peyton for the Heistman.

Edit: I stand corrected - 2 TDs on offense and 1 KO return.
 
I wasn't pretending anything. Just laid out what I thought were the relevant points to be considered regarding his career and candidacy. Clearly the coaches and administration saw more than the "negative" and "biased" points I listed. What do you think were the positive and unbiased points they saw in DeBord that I failed to mention?

Well, according to his resume, CBJ's comments, media reported comments, and comments from current NFL coaches/players:

  1. He set up the system CBJ has been running for 10 years.
  2. He will be willing to run CBJ's offense and tweek it where it needs to be tweeked.
  3. The player's won't have to learn a new offense with new vocabularies and reads.
  4. He has been a successful, MNC-winning OC in a power conference.
  5. He is a quality QB coach.
  6. He is a team player who earns respect from the staffs he's on.
  7. He can see the big picture while seeing the details.
  8. He is a wonderful teacher of the game.
  9. There are more, I'm sure. But these were just listed by college and NFL coaches, former players, and current/former NFL players.

Those people obviously have more experience with him than you do, and can apparently read a resume better than you.
 
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With the hiring of Mike Debord, Butch has sent a clear message to Volnation: "Shut-up and strap-in."

This hire means that Butch believes the Vols will win the East in 2015 and beyond.

High-octane OCs with offenses 70 spots higher than Mike Bajakian's (despite being on less money) were not needed. The guy who designed 3-plays that won Charles Woodson the Heisman is all that is required for Championships now.

In essence, Butch has said that sjt18 and MedicT could be co-OCs and he would still win the East.

I've got a lot of faith in Butch, and he has given all of us



the ultimate Butch-slap. Butch has got this.

He has done that. I'm 100 percent sure it will be done. I've raised my expectations from 8 to 10 wins.:clapping:
 
What it does mean is that DeBord does have QB coaching experience.

If pretending to know the inner workings of the Michigan or CMU offensive hierarchy while DeBord was there helps you defend the hire, more power to you.

All I know is the guy has been credited as actually coaching quarterbacks at one stop 30 years ago.
 
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DeBord is a fantastic hire which will do nothing but improve our team and our offense. Anybody that says otherwise obviously hasn't spent any real time researching his past or speaking to him about his plans for the future.
 
If pretending to know the inner workings of the Michigan or CMU offensive hierarchy while DeBord was there helps you defend the hire, more power to you.

All I know is the guy has been credited as actually coaching quarterbacks at one stop 30 years ago.

I'll take Tom Brady's word on that above yours. You seem to have missed some "accredits" and public comments per the Michigan 'offensive hierarchy'.

“The University of Tennessee has hired a great offensive coordinator in Mike DeBord,” the former Wolverine quarterback [Brady] said. “Mike was my offensive coordinator in college and helped me develop as a quarterback. He has great knowledge in offensive football and quarterback development, and he will do an outstanding job at Tennessee.”
 
Honest question:Does anybody know why Mike DeBord hasn't coordinated an offense since 2007? Or why he was out of football for the last two years? Just wondering.
 
Honest question:Does anybody know why Mike DeBord hasn't coordinated an offense since 2007? Or why he was out of football for the last two years? Just wondering.

I'll answer part of that question with another question. Why isn't Bajakian coordinating our offense now? He went to the NFL.
 
I'll take Tom Brady's word on that above yours. You seem to have missed some "accredits" and public comments per the Michigan 'offensive hierarchy'.


This is just a boring, asinine version of the " you haven't coached so you can't comment" straw man argument.

I am not qualified to vouch for the hire. Never claimed to be.

Contrary to popular belief on here, dissenting opinions are allowed though.
 
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I'll take Tom Brady's word on that above yours. You seem to have missed some "accredits" and public comments per the Michigan 'offensive hierarchy'.

Besides, what exactly is Brady supposed to say?

"Yeah, DeBord was the dude that kept me on the bench for two season and nearly caused me to transfer to Cal? "
 
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I guess I am wondering why Michigan did not retain him post Carr, and why he pursued a position out of football upon his exit from the NFL. There just doesn't seem to be an answer out there as to why his career has included little, to zero advancement, with the exception of his terrible tenure at CMU. For a guy who, judging from the likes of Brady, Griese, etc. deserves so much respect, why did no one want him; in any football capacity?
 
I guess I am wondering why Michigan did not retain him post Carr, and why he pursued a position out of football upon his exit from the NFL. There just doesn't seem to be an answer out there as to why his career has included little, to zero advancement, with the exception of his terrible tenure at CMU. For a guy who, judging from the likes of Brady, Griese, etc. deserves so much respect, why did no one want him; in any football capacity?

Because Orange Crush on Vol Nation has his back.

What else do you need? :)
 
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All this Butch has proved himself and deserves our trust posts are hilarious. What exactly has he proven, that he can recruit? Because thats about it. Until he can take that talent and start winning games, which he really hasn't then I will withhold my blind faith in the man and his abilities.
He had a chance to make a great hire and instead he went and called his old friend, found out fans and recruits didn't like the guy so pretended to do some interviews to buy him time and then waited til after the kids were stuck for at least a year to announce he hired the guy most didn't like.

This guy isn't gonna come and bring in the I-formation or any other power run game formations. butch said he wanted more of the same, which can be good but we also needed some new wrinkles to O. If we run the exact same O then were gonna be in some serious trouble in the coming years. Most read-option spread teams are able to but up decent numbers. WIth more of the exact same we will never do that unless we can manage to schedule an entire season of weak Ds.

What CBJ has proven is that he is charismatic and convincing. Kids believe him and buy into his vision. He recruits masterfully...not only does he load the class with star talent but he fills needs. Anyone who says that he has only proven that he is a good recruiter is missing how incredibly important it is to be a good recruiter in order to build stability in a program. The gimmicks and slogans and songs and visual aids are all part of his coaching strategy. Silly at times but that stuff apparently DOES pay off on the field. You say "until he can take the talent and start winning games, which he really hasn't...." Did you miss the Taxslayer bowl? Did he not get us there this year? We were underdogs...we were expected to lose by most experts...and we stomped them. It was not even a competition. We were clearly prepared and coached up. So what hasn't he proven again???
 
This is just a boring, asinine version of the " you haven't coached so you can't comment" straw man argument.

I am not qualified to vouch for the hire. Never claimed to be.

Contrary to popular belief on here, dissenting opinions are allowed though.

You claimed people were 'pretending to know the inner workings' of the offensive staffs he's been on. Then you said he's been credited with coaching QBs once in the past 30 years.

I posted a quote from a person that doesn't have to 'pretend to know the inner workings'. He also happens to be superbowl winning QB that credits Debord with coaching and developing him.

Your response was weak. You are welcome to your 'dissenting opinions'. By all means. Just don't get all butt-hurt when people poke holes in those dissenting opinions with facts.
 
Besides, what exactly is Brady supposed to say?

"Yeah, DeBord was the dude that kept me on the bench for two season and nearly caused me to transfer to Cal? "

Now who's pretending to know something? You have enough inner knowledge to call Brady a liar? lulz
 
Those fall under the "Blah blah" I mentioned. lol
Look, people have mentioned the positives in every single debate. You can read them anywhere. I have no intention of re-typing them because I'm not campaigning for the guy. You have already read them , I'm sure.


Come on man. you listed the record for "the last time he and Butch worked together". The record at cmu with Debord as hc has 0 to do with now... I know that you know that.

To me, the thought process in terms of asking questions about DeBord went like this...

Where is he coaching right now? Oh, he's not a college coach right now, well what's he doing? Oh, ok, well when was the last time he was still a coach? When was the last time he was OC? That long ago huh..... well what type of offense did he run/coordinate? What type of success did he have? When was the last time he has that success? That long ago eh? Oh, he and Butch coached together before, when Butch was the OC and DeBord was the HC....how'd they do together?

That's why I formatted my original post the way I did and why I included his record as a headcoach with Butch on his staff. And IMHO, citing the team's record with a pretty good sample size when they worked together seemed to not be a moot point, since they're about to work together again.

Anywho, like I've since said, it's all water under the bridge now. Time to stop questioning and start supporting because I want him to be successful. Let's hope it works.
 
What CBJ has proven is that he is charismatic and convincing. Kids believe him and buy into his vision. He recruits masterfully...not only does he load the class with star talent but he fills needs. Anyone who says that he has only proven that he is a good recruiter is missing how incredibly important it is to be a good recruiter in order to build stability in a program. The gimmicks and slogans and songs and visual aids are all part of his coaching strategy. Silly at times but that stuff apparently DOES pay off on the field. You say "until he can take the talent and start winning games, which he really hasn't...." Did you miss the Taxslayer bowl? Did he not get us there this year? We were underdogs...we were expected to lose by most experts...and we stomped them. It was not even a competition. We were clearly prepared and coached up. So what hasn't he proven again???

We were 3-4 point favorites to beat Iowa in the Taxslayer Bowl. Just sayin...

TaxSlayer Bowl College Football Betting Line Favors Tennessee over Iowa | Odds Shark
 
Well, according to his resume, CBJ's comments, media reported comments, and comments from current NFL coaches/players:

  1. He set up the system CBJ has been running for 10 years.
  2. He will be willing to run CBJ's offense and tweek it where it needs to be tweeked.
  3. The player's won't have to learn a new offense with new vocabularies and reads.
  4. He has been a successful, MNC-winning OC in a power conference.
  5. He is a quality QB coach.
  6. He is a team player who earns respect from the staffs he's on.
  7. He can see the big picture while seeing the details.
  8. He is a wonderful teacher of the game.
  9. There are more, I'm sure. But these were just listed by college and NFL coaches, former players, and current/former NFL players.

Those people obviously have more experience with him than you do, and can apparently read a resume better than you.


Yep, I'm certainly the only one who didn't see those things. It was awfully lonely on that island all by myself the last 2 weeks. This has been a universally praised hire by all and we should expect to not only not miss a beat, but to see great strides taken forward with this offense under DeBord and his resume. Nothing to see here but unicorns and rainbows. Anyone who raised any questions or concerns is, like me, a blithering idiot.

As I've said multiple times now, I'm through questioning the hire and am in full support mode. Hope he turns out to be Coach Cut part 2.
 
Yep, I'm certainly the only one who didn't see those things. It was awfully lonely on that island all by myself the last 2 weeks. This has been a universally praised hire by all and we should expect to not only not miss a beat, but to see great strides taken forward with this offense under DeBord and his resume. Nothing to see here but unicorns and rainbows. Anyone who raised any questions or concerns is, like me, a blithering idiot.

As I've said multiple times now, I'm through questioning the hire and am in full support mode. Hope he turns out to be Coach Cut part 2.

Yes. I agree. Many people on here probably should have withheld judgment and done more research before tearing the [potential] hire apart.

Personally, I'm still in that mode. I'll neither crown him, nor crucify him, until I see the product he puts on the field at UT. And then, CBJ will get either the kudos or the complaints. It's his hire and it falls on him either way.
 
If pretending to know the inner workings of the Michigan or CMU offensive hierarchy while DeBord was there helps you defend the hire, more power to you.

All I know is the guy has been credited as actually coaching quarterbacks at one stop 30 years ago.

Besides, what exactly is Brady supposed to say?

"Yeah, DeBord was the dude that kept me on the bench for two season and nearly caused me to transfer to Cal? "

"Dooley is great! Nick Saban wouldn't lie! Let's take obvious coachspeak at face value!"

If you don't see the irony and self-defeat, I'm not sure I can help you. He guffawed at anyone deigning to speak on behalf of the inner UM offensive workings, then wrote off the comments of the person who is credible in speaking to it. Do you think he is, or you are, more credible to speak to it? Are your pretending to know enough about the inner workings of the UM offensive hierarchy to call Brady a liar?

The irony is rich, and the self-defeat is thick.
 
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