Butch says it takes 6 to 7 years to build a program in the SEC

Dynasty in year 6?? He's still just trying to get bowl eligible in year 3....I think you're putting words in his mouth.

Exactly, I'm trying to explain what he was saying.

I just don't think he had Vandy's success in mind when he said 6-7 years. Although they have the clowns 7-6 in the 4th.
 
You say we had two 4* and Butch took over a ****ty foundation. You fail to research he inherited five 4* in that class. That's a baseless post and you using your disdain for Dools to justify Butch's shortcomings.

How'd he inherit "five" when North wasn't committed? Had to ask. :)
 
Read a post recently saying that Saban would have 5 losses with team 119 right now........5. Lol!

Have you seen Saban's teams lose games the past 5 years? If you have, you've seen Saban lose to teams with less talent than his own. If he loses games against inferior opponents with the best roster in the country, what would he do with a roster that is far less than 'best'?
 
Have you seen Saban's teams lose games the past 5 years? If you have, you've seen Saban lose to teams with less talent than his own. If he loses games against inferior opponents with the best roster in the country, what would he do with a roster that is far less than 'best'?

Your model says the more talented team wins 70% of the time, right? Saban has won about 85% of his games at Alabama, including the last game of the college season 3 times. So what does that tell us? Surely to goodness you're not gonna try and tell me that Jones is a better coach than Saban, too.
 
Your model says the more talented team wins 70% of the time, right? Saban has won about 85% of his games at Alabama, including the last game of the college season 3 times. So what does that tell us? Surely to goodness you're not gonna try and tell me that Jones is a better coach than Saban, too.

Daj liked to spin his numbers and make you believe anything.

Those numbers don't won football games. Players and coaches do.

You lose all credibility when you say one of the best coaches of our lifetimes wouldn't do better than a Dooley on Saturday clone...
 
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Daj liked to spin his numbers and make you believe anything.

Those numbers don't won football games. Players and coaches do.

You lose all credibility when you say one of the best coaches of our lifetimes wouldn't do better than a Dooley on Saturday clone...
What team has had the top recruiting class for the past 7 years? Oh that's right bammer. How can they EVER lose a game?
 
That offense Florida has is not good and CJM has maximized their potential through scheme. They have one legitimate NFL prospect at receiver. I don't see NFL talent on that side of the ball. I don't see the pass-rushers or linebackers they have had in the past either though it is a good group with Bullard being the only true standout. DB's are really good/great, RB's are serviceable.
If you were hired as the head coach of a program and began making around $70,000 a week and with social media being what it is today, would you hire several PR firms to cover up these boards with positive posts? I would.

Yesterday was the sorriest coaching job I have ever seen. Notice how the majority of posters who attack this post became members after Butch's hire date.
 
If you were hired as the head coach of a program and began making around $70,000 a week and with social media being what it is today, would you hire several PR firms to cover up these boards with positive posts? I would.

Yesterday was the sorriest coaching job I have ever seen. Notice how the majority of posters who attack this post became members after Butch's hire date.
What we have on here are a bunch of hired guns. Professionals. We could go 0-11 and they would still be doing what they are hired to do.
 
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If you were hired as the head coach of a program and began making around $70,000 a week and with social media being what it is today, would you hire several PR firms to cover up these boards with positive posts? I would.

Yesterday was the sorriest coaching job I have ever seen. Notice how the majority of posters who attack this post became members after Butch's hire date.

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Have you seen Saban's teams lose games the past 5 years?

Yes. They've lost 7 in 5 years.

If you have, you've seen Saban lose to teams with less talent than his own. If he loses games against inferior opponents with the best roster in the country, what would he do with a roster that is far less than 'best'?

Saban won the SEC his second year at LSU and went 12-0 his second year at Bama. Either he keeps stumbling into gold mines or your argument is idiotic.
 
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What we have on here are a bunch of hired guns. Professionals. We could go 0-11 and they would still be doing what they are hired to do.
Be honest. You believe in Bigfoot, Flying saucers and the grassy knoll shooter don't you?
But seriously, when you wear your tin foil hat does it really stop them from reading your mind?
 
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Now calm down...Butch isn't my "savior"...he's my coach. I'm not going to let you fire him until he has a proper chance. :)

I know Paul Harris changed his name...how's he doing? Carr setting records too? :)

And here I thought you were just a random poster.
 

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