Butch Playing it Smart

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Butch/Debord clearly took out half the playbook v AppSt.

How many read-options did Dobbs run?

I don't remember any.

It was risky, but was clearly on purpose.
 
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We ran one on the goal line in overtime when dobbs got crushed. I believe we were just trying to save his legs but that didn't work. Hopefully he is ok from that brutal hit.
 
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I'm not a fan of trying to be vanilla and hide or save things for other, presumably tougher opponents. How about just run what you run and get so good at executing it with superior athletes that it doesn't matter whether or not the bad guys know what's coming? If you wanna hold back on a couple of "trick plays" and save em for your bigger rivals, like we did with Florida last year then ok, that seems sensible.

But otherwise, just go get real good and confident with your system and go run it no matter who the opponent is IMO. If we just tried the other way vs App State, to hold back evidently only run about 5 or 6 total plays out of the offense, I'd say the results were a great reason to never do that again. Jmo.
 
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Yeah, play it to where you almost lose, look like a turd sandwich as a team, and probably drop in the rankings. Yeah, that's playing it smart...
 
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The OP actually may have a point.

You can't blow a 4th quarter lead if you don't have one in the first place.:rolleyes:
 
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Anybody see the Outback Bowl v. Big 10 #4 NW? It was a track meet.

Dobbs' read-option has been the best offense we've had since Casey Clausen and one no SEC team has stifled for 60 mintues -- including Alabama twice.

Did we just forget how to run it all of a sudden?

Nope.
 
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KBVol said:
I'm not a fan of trying to be vanilla and hide or save things for other, presumable tougher opponents. How about just run what you run and get so good at executing it with superior athletes that it doesn't matter whether or not the bad guys know what's coming? If you wanna hold back on a couple of "trick plays" and save em for your bigger rivals, like we did with Florida last year then ok, that seems sensible.

But otherwise, just go get real good and confident with your system and go run it no matter who the opponent is IMO. If we just tried the other way vs App State, to hold back evidently only run about 5 or 6 total plays out of the offense, I'd say the results were a great reason to never do that again. Jmo.
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I agree, not like our opponents can't pull up our zone read plays from last year anyways.
 
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Michigan is handling a lower tier team like a top 10 team should.Jim Harbaugh isn't holding anything back from the play book. They are just lining up and beating Hawaii down.
 
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VFL34 said:
Remember north Texas.......
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Do you really think it was part of Butch's strategy Travis? Interested to hear a player's take on it. It did seem like we ran a total of about 8 different plays all night. I was thinking of the North Texas game from last year as well.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Not sure if playing App State to overtime would be considered "smart" coaching. But to each their own I guess.
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THIS.... not quite buying playing vanilla till the end with a potential shattering loss staring you in the face... True, Dobbs clearly was told not to run, but not sure why the offense looked so bad... guess we will find out soon if it was a dangerous smokescreen or our coaching staff and players have regressed.. You would think this staff would have learned from being roasted for losing leads and games partly because they played 3 and out and hold the lead football... you would think they would come out this year to intimidate folks and keep their foot on the accelerator for four quarters.... guess not.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
Do you really think it was part of Butch's strategy Travis? Interested to hear a player's take on it. It did seem like we ran a total of about 8 different plays all night. I was thinking of the North Texas game from last year as well.
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No it's never your strategy to be that close. But they only installed very few plays thinking they could muscle through it and it almost back fired. There is no such thing as holding back plays. You install plays based on your opponent. Against Virginia tech they will have all the plays open
 
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I can see working on some basics in an opening game, but "being vanilla to hide the playbook" doesn't really seem like something you do 3-4 years into a coaching tenure. The SEC has plenty of game film on our offense, and minus adding a wrinkle here or there we all know what to expect.
 
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App state was the only team I was worried about. They are a good team. People hear the name and think they arent
 
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Look they came out with a W, and no one is hurt. The game is behind them. On to Virginia tech.
 
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volinbama256 said:
THIS.... not quite buying playing vanilla till the end with a potential shattering loss staring you in the face... True, Dobbs clearly was told not to run, but not sure why the offense looked so bad... guess we will find out soon if it was a dangerous smokescreen or our coaching staff and players have regressed.. You would think this staff would have learned from being roasted for losing leads and games partly because they played 3 and out and hold the lead football... you would think they would come out this year to intimidate folks and keep their foot on the accelerator for four quarters.... guess not.
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Are you saying that by running the read-option we don't open up more throwing lanes? Of course we do.
All you have to know is that we didn't run it, and it's not likely bc the likes of App State has figured out a way to stop it and so we backed off it.
 
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VFL34 said:
No it's never your strategy to be that close. But they only installed very few plays thinking they could muscle through it and it almost back fired. There is no such thing as holding back plays. You install plays based on your opponent. Against Virginia tech they will have all the plays open
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I think they ran about 5-6 plays. I was watchin the game with the quarterback from appy state on the 07' team. We were basically calling the plays before they hiked the ball. They just used different formations.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
Butch/Debord clearly took out half the playbook v AppSt.

How many read-options did Dobbs run?

I don't remember any.

It was risky, but was clearly on purpose.
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Risky? How about Dobbs getting drilled at goal line? Risking your starter QB's health.
Dobbs was forced to try and make a play due to "purpose" play calling.
 
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