Butch Jones has a low football IQ

[thebjd]

You look at Urban and think he is a great coach. But if he don't have a Tebow type QB he is not that good either. You look at Florida after Tebow left. He had no ideal what to do. That's when he got sick and quite coaching. Florida was not any good after Tebow. Urban then took the Ohio St job with the three QBs that play like Tebow did. Tebow had to go to a QB school in Murfreesboro to learn how to throw. Bottom if a good coach don't have good players he is not going to win.

Utah, first title at Florida was with Chris Leake and he won an NC with a 3rd string QB at OSU. He is a great coach.

 

[thebjd]

I think you have to keep in mind that Auburn went to double overtime with Jacksonville State, a much worse team than OU, and though they managed to win, they could have easily lost. This shows that even really good teams have those games where they mess up and don't get the job done. I do agree DeBord went into a shell, but that wasn't the whole problem. Dobbs did not play like a gamer (like Mayfield did). And the Ellis drop, the needless PI in the end zone, and the two Jumper holds that kept the OU scoring drive alive were the difference here. Also, Moseley did not "fall down" on that OT score, Shephard threw him down like a little boy and took the ball in the end zone like a man who would not be denied. Those are not thi The ngs that you can lay at the feet of Jones.

We blew a 14 point lead in the 4th quarter at home in prime time in front of a sold out crowd. This was the moment for Jones to deliver and he choked. His next opportunity will be when UGA comes to town and they are looking like a top 5 team.

 

[SobeVol]

We're calling for Dormady now? LMFAO at you guys...... Some of you are way to emotionally attached

I think it is ignorant not to give him an honest game time look.
He may have the better arm, which could allow us to use some of our offensive weapons that so far have been left on the shelf.
No harm in giving him a shot.

 

[old wise one]

does coach not realize what he done by grabbing him and telling him to show some class could have turned into a mess if striker would have in the heat of the moment done something real stupid like slug coach and all hell breaks loose?

the ncaa might have to look into making sure coaches do not touch the other team players after the game unless it is a handshake, i know some will think this is crazy but it could have turned into a mess, coach does not need to put himself in that position ever again.

we are lucky striker was not stupid enougn to slug or push coach, that is all it would have taken for a mess to have happen, just one wrong split second decision by him and we would be a big mess.

it is just like him telling players never to be alone with a girl after a certain time, do not put yourself in that position.

 

[Vol Main]

So true. He's just not a very smart guy. He doesn't understand the game of football. If we don't convert from the half yard line they are going to likely end up getting a safety. But by kicking the ball it tells our guys...I'm afraid and I don't believe in you.

Exactly what evidence do you have that either of our lines were going to win those battles? I'm not asking for blah, blah blah. I am talking about the actual performance of our players.

 

[djohnnyg]

Great recruiter...terrible football coach. He's gonna break hearts with bringing in all this talent and losing games like yesterday. Playing not to lose. Is that the "Vol way"?

Two BIG games he's blown already with his nonsensical in game decisions. Florida and now Oklahoma.

How many more?

 

[HighWaterVol]

Dobb's QBR in OK game = pretty shabby. We will not be great until we have a QB that can pass well and that the coaches can have confidence in. So many have been blowing so much... about him. Does not command the offense like a COO either in my opinion.

 

[sjt18]

Could it be, Jones knew that this team still lacks the depth needed to aggressively attack on offense for four quarters without the high probability of giving the game away on turnovers?

Just how ridiculous are the mental gymnastics you're willing to do to excuse Jones?

He needs to change. And NO, it has nothing to do with depth. UT has a TON of unused, squandered depth at WR. Give the game away on turnovers or just sit there and let OU take it? There are MANY deep throws that are relatively low risk. BGSU proved that well enough.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Laughable at the hand wringing we did over Von's status, North's (non) season ending injury. They might as well not be here because they are invisible in this offense.

2 games into he season and North has 9 yards. Let that sink in


Pig, North, Croom, Wolf, Hurd, Kamara, Malone, Smith...one wonders what they would look like if they had a competent coach that could get them the ball in space.

Preston Williams is probably researching transfer rules right now.

I have hated our last 3 hires. With the way Butch has recruited, I was starting to think I was wrong.

Zook 2.0

cmon guys. a bit of an overreaction dont you think?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Dobb's QBR in OK game = pretty shabby. We will not be great until we have a QB that can pass well and that the coaches can have confidence in. So many have been blowing so much... about him. Does not command the offense like a COO either in my opinion.

dobbs doesnt have all that much experience either, hes either been hurt or Worley bird played. Hes a talented collegiate qb. do i think hell play in the NFL? lets just say Northrup-Grumman has a future Aeronautical Tech in mind.

 

[sjt18]

One thing that limits aggressive play calling: Lack of confidence in your offensive line. Remember all those circle of life drills? Our defensive linemen did pretty well when paired against our offensive linemen.

Do I have the answer? No. But I know enough to know that you can't take too many shots down the field when the pocket consistently and quickly collapses.

I am curious as to how many of you experts have actually coached organized football.

No. It simply doesn't. It simply means you have to get the ball out quicker. You time the route and lead the WR.

BGSU did it all game long with success. Bray made a living doing it especially after relieving Simms who held the ball too long.

OR... you do what OU has done. You move your pocket to one side or the other and seal the end. OU's OL isn't very good. But Stoops found a way to give his QB some time.