Butch Jones critique/support/discussion (merged)

#327
#327
"Don't blame the players"? Well the defense can't cover or tackle, the QB can't throw down field the line can't block and on and on. Yes coaching has sucked on both sides of the ball but players have some responsibility too. You know to make a play ????
 
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vol24/7/365 said:
He started picking off Dooley's players. Some were very good players but his ego wouldn't let him keep them. Peterman is excelling under Chaney at Pitt. He can recruit that's been proven. He degrades his players. Threatens them everyday with their scholarships. He does not build their confidence.
He is all about looks. From the facility to clothing. That's fine if your winning! The players hate him. It's not just him they hate a few other coaches also.
He lies to his players and staff. Pig cussed them out. He's over their military degrading BS. He pulls players (his recruits) into his office and tells them he will help them transfer cause they aren't living up to their stars.
All that you see in the public is a show.
We have some really great players they are just not honed to their potential. Under the right coach they would be phenomenal.
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If you have this much insider info, please describe the locker room incident that lead to J. Bruce leaving the team.
 
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#334
#334
Butch is a great recruiter and he wants to win as much as anyone, he just doesn't know how to make ingame adjustments. He has a good plan going into the game, then the other team makes adjustments and he does not. I also see lots of highlights from other games where the qb throws to a receiver that is well covered by a defender but the receiver makes the catch for a TD. Is Dobbs unable to do that or are the coaches afraid to try?
 
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vol24/7/365 said:
He started picking off Dooley's players. Some were very good players but his ego wouldn't let him keep them. Peterman is excelling under Chaney at Pitt. He can recruit that's been proven. He degrades his players. Threatens them everyday with their scholarships. He does not build their confidence.
He is all about looks. From the facility to clothing. That's fine if your winning! The players hate him. It's not just him they hate a few other coaches also.
He lies to his players and staff. Pig cussed them out. He's over their military degrading BS. He pulls players (his recruits) into his office and tells them he will help them transfer cause they aren't living up to their stars.
All that you see in the public is a show.
We have some really great players they are just not honed to their potential. Under the right coach they would be phenomenal.
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Do you have any source on this or any reason for us to believe that this is legitimately true? I get being mad about the outcome of recent games, but unless you have some way to prove this its kinda hard to believe
 
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vol24/7/365 said:
He started picking off Dooley's players. Some were very good players but his ego wouldn't let him keep them. Peterman is excelling under Chaney at Pitt. He can recruit that's been proven. He degrades his players. Threatens them everyday with their scholarships. He does not build their confidence.
He is all about looks. From the facility to clothing. That's fine if your winning! The players hate him. It's not just him they hate a few other coaches also.
He lies to his players and staff. Pig cussed them out. He's over their military degrading BS. He pulls players (his recruits) into his office and tells them he will help them transfer cause they aren't living up to their stars.
All that you see in the public is a show.
We have some really great players they are just not honed to their potential. Under the right coach they would be phenomenal.
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Didn't Medley say he would take a bullet for Jones.
 
#347
#347
VolFootballlover said:
open your eyes blind man...every team we play has freshmen destroying us.its called coaching
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Did coaching cause them to drop catches? Did coaching cause missed tackles? They are calling the same plays they did last year. Everybody has it in there mind that a 7-6 team last year should be 10-2 or 11-1. I think we need a new offensive line coach
 
#348
#348
Vol Catdaddy said:
I like Butch Jones. He is has the it factor as far as talking shaking hands kissing babies etc. But he is lacking in the coaching department. If us the fans want change we need to stop going to the games the vol walk and etc. The university needs to clean house and start over. I am not going to waste time watching the games it's a shot in the dark for us to even make the blue bonnet bowl. The way this team has started out we were supposed to win 10 plus games we should be 5-0, 4-1. This is crazy.
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We are spoiled rotten brat fans. Who do we think we are?

Florida?
Michigan?

Dude, asking for 7 wins this is the sign of being a spoiled brat. We are not patient. Maybe next year we can reasonably expect to win some meaningful SEC games.

At least this is what some will tell you.
No excuses for this disaster.
 
#349
#349
Players are developed by good coaching.

Dobbs is worse throwing the football this year than he was last year.

On a 3rd and 15 with 30 seconds left in the 1st half, our Defense is shocked by a draw play call?

We were up on UF in the swamp 27-14 with 4 minutes left in the game.

The talent is there. Players aren't the problem.
 
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