Butch deserves NO Raise and NO extension

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VolnJC said:
It's laughable that they can't see improvement..I honestly think they take it out on Butch because as long suffering Vol "fans" they deserved a big name splashy hire and when they didn't get Gruden or Strong they immediately turned on this staff
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Do hold butch responsible at all for the OK, FL, or Arky losses?
 
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The season's stats are improved. That isn't the problem. The problem is what we've seen the past couple of weeks vs a couple of really, really bad defensive teams.
 
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EZE said:
This is such a dumb mantra by the NegaVols. Nobody is hoping to top out at 8-win seasons. The difference is that we are able to see the progress of an 8-win season this year given where this,program has been over the past DECADE.
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What if they lose 1 or both of these last 2?
 
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sjt18 said:
The season's stats are improved. That isn't the problem. The problem is what we've seen the past couple of weeks vs a couple of really, really bad defensive teams.
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So does Florida suck because Vandy about beat them and does Michigan suck because they had to go to 2OT to beat a team that was winless in the B10?
 
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vols 30 said:
What if they lose 1 or both of these last 2?
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Then they lose and weren't good enough to win them. I'm still in through 2016. I wobbled a bit when we got to 2-3, but I see major progress in this season over last. I personally think we will take another step forward in 2016, but only time will tell.

I try not to be a Chicken Little and run around waiving my hands in a panic after a bad game or two. Because every team has good and bad games over the course of the season.

What I do know is this. Even with another loss, Butch has earned the right to coach next year with a team comprised entirely of his players. Again, I think next year could be special.
 
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VolnJC said:
OK and FL maybe..I think Arky wore down our line and just beat us
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That's all most of us "Nega's" are saying. Holding responsible for bad coaching decisions resulting in a loss. Are we making progress? Yes, but I think it's ok to criticize him along the way if it's deserved.
 
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vols 30 said:
Do hold butch responsible at all for the OK, FL, or Arky losses?
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I don't put Arky on the coaches. We just got beat.

But, if you are going to put the losses on him, then you have to give him credit for the wins, which will greatly outnumber the losses.
 
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EZE said:
Then they owe and weren't good enough to win them. I'm still in through 2016. I wobbled a bit when we got to 2-3, but I see major progress in this season over last. I personally think we will take another step forward in 2016, but only time will tell.

I try not to be a Chicken Little and run around waiving my hands in a panic after a bad game or two. Because every team has good and bad games over the course of the season.

What I do know is this. Even with another loss, Butch has earned the right to coach next year with a team comprised entirely of his players. Again, I think next year could be special.
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I must be negavol light, because I mostly agree with you. He definitely deserves 2016
 
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EZE said:
I don't put Arky on the coaches. We just got beat.

But, if you are going to put the losses on him, then you have to give him credit for the wins, which will greatly outnumber the losses.
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Definitely yet to be proven
 
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Originally Posted by IPleadInsanity View Post
This is not the time to have an unhappy coach. The coaching carousel is going to be turning hard, USC, USCE, UGA, Missou, Notre Dame, VT and more will be looking for coaches. Its a coaches market at the moment and the #1 requirement is recruiting capability.

Wylo said:
So? Let him go if he thinks he can do better.
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Yes, of course, competing against those schools for a new coach would be the correct approach, what was I thinking??:eek:lol:
 
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VolnJC said:
there you go..ranked 11th in SEC offense last year 5th this year
toggle between 2014 and 2015 to see the improvement
2014 SEC College Football Team Statistics Leaders for Total - ESPN

and there is the SOS rankings..four teams we have played will be playing for conference championships

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other?date=2015-11-01
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Strength of Schedule Rankings for CFB

Seems we can all pick and choose strength of schedule.
 
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VolnJC said:
Offense regressing? we are averaging 50 more yards and 6 more points a game over last year

schedule difference? we have the toughest schedule in the country this year
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You do know we lost to all the teams that made the schedule tough right?
 
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vols 30 said:
That's all most of us "Nega's" are saying. Holding responsible for bad coaching decisions resulting in a loss. Are we making progress? Yes, but I think it's ok to criticize him along the way if it's deserved.
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I don't know if I should laugh or be offended by the use of the word nega
 
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Considering how far this team has come in 2 1/2 years and 30-40 FBS Head Coach openings this year, that makes a lot of sense.
 
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