Butch and his best friend

#51
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VFL-82-JP said:
No, it really doesn't.

It doesn't say that Butch (or whoever photoshopped Butch in) thinks his job is as hard as a soldier's, or the risks are as great. That's what Winslow did that was offensive.

The two don't even begin to compare.

Like it or don't like it...that's your choice. But there's nothing offensive or belittling here.
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I agree JP that its not offensive. I just wouldn't do it out of respect to those serving. But that's just me. I've never served, so I don't have the right to say it is wrong or right, only that I wouldn't personally do something like that.
 
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peyton4heisman said:
I agree JP that its not offensive. I just wouldn't do it out of respect to those serving. But that's just me. I've never served, so I don't have the right to say it is wrong or right, only that I wouldn't personally do something like that.
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Thanks, P4H, I appreciate the sentiment.

Here's how I see it. The #1 social anathema to American troops today is losing contact with the people we're fighting for. A sense that the American people don't know what we're doing, or don't care that we're doing it for them, that we've become disconnected from American society at large, that's "the worst thing" that most troops today imagine can happen in our relationship with other Americans. Well, being spit on at airports would be worse (sorry, Vietnam vets who faced that)...but that's happily lost in a 40-year-distant past that one can only hope we never go back to.

So with the most realistic hazard today in our military-civilian relationship being that we might be forgotten ... you can see that any injection of the military into society -- like pasting Butch's face and Smokey onto a troop's photo -- is a reaffirmation that we're still linked, that the soldiers haven't been forgotten at all. To the contrary, they're being held up in a way that says it's cool to have your face posted onto their photos. You don't see many people posting the faces of their heroes onto the bodies of Congressmen.....

I'm probably doing an awful job explaining this, and using far too many words in the attempt. *shrug* maybe it's impossible to convey this sense. Just thought I'd try.

If any of this makes it through at all, that's why I don't mind the photo one bit...and don't think most soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines or coast guardsmen would.

Go Vols!
 
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It's not his best work but it's not bad either. Honestly I think everyone is overreacting a little bit just because it's Butch's head on a soldier's body. I see no reason to bash the OP. He did what he thought was cool regardless of what everyone else on here thinks.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Thanks, P4H, I appreciate the sentiment.

Here's how I see it. The #1 social anathema to American troops today is losing contact with the people we're fighting for. A sense that the American people don't know what we're doing, or don't care that we're doing it for them, that we've become disconnected from American society at large, that's "the worst thing" that most troops today imagine can happen in our relationship with other Americans. Well, being spit on at airports would be worse (sorry, Vietnam vets who faced that)...but that's happily lost in a 40-year-distant past that one can only hope we never go back to.

So with the most realistic hazard today in our military-civilian relationship being that we might be forgotten ... you can see that any injection of the military into society -- like pasting Butch's face and Smokey onto a troop's photo -- is a reaffirmation that we're still linked, that the soldiers haven't been forgotten at all. To the contrary, they're being held up in a way that says it's cool to have your face posted onto their photos. You don't see many people posting the faces of their heroes onto the bodies of Congressmen.....

I'm probably doing an awful job explaining this, and using far too many words in the attempt. *shrug* maybe it's impossible to convey this sense. Just thought I'd try.

If any of this makes it through at all, that's why I don't mind the photo one bit...and don't think most soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines or coast guardsmen would.

Go Vols!
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I think I get what you are saying. I think civilians like myself (in general) have nothing but the highest of respect for our military personnel.

I think what bugs me about the picture is this: this soldier (or trooper or whichever branch he's in) in this pictire is apparently overseas and apparently on duty in a war zone. He is risking his life for me and everything I own and love. What he is doing requires a sacrifice that not all of us were willing/able to offer for whatever reason. He is certainly not cozy and likely would rather be home (where I am.)

Then you have somebody that comes along and wants to make a funny picture of Butch and Smokey and thinks "I'll just tag Butch's face on this soldier and photoshop Smokey in."

So he does. Now this guy who is overseas (presumably fighting in a war) has become little more than a template for a joke picture that's not even funny. Instead of using the time and resources figuring out who this man is and where he is from and what he's done for his country, the person who made this has just taken his likeness to use for a joke.

Football is so trivial compared to the real-life dangers and sacrifices made by our military people. So to seemingly disregard the real-life man and his story in lieu of a quick laugh seems to me like a waste of a good opportunity to show a little respect for the man in the picture.

Idk If that makes any sense or not. I'm not always the best at expressing my thoughts with words but maybe you get the jist of it
 
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I have shopped Dave Hart a couple of times, Gruden multiple times, even Franklin and Muschamp but never Butch. I need to think of something fun to put Butch in that doesn't draw on the Sgt. Carter comparison.

This one didn't offend me at all but I see why people don't think a soldier is a good template for photoshop edits.
 
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#57
Did Butch graduate from playing the Trumpet in the Band to Storm Trooper?
Bring Back the real Vol's Butch Jones, win baby win!
 
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to dang close to kick off to read stupid comments. thought pic was ok. rest of u guys with your thongs wrapped around ur cheeks need to get a life.


no offense taken here.


again this is the generation..


#hehurtmyfeelings
 
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The original is of a British soldier and his dog. It's not that big of a deal, I'd consider it a compliment that a football coach is having his image put on a hero's body.

That says the soldier is viewed positively.
 
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The original. Lot of contrast between the intense man and the happy go lucky looking dog:

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f77f00 said:
The original. Lot of contrast between the intense man and the happy go lucky looking dog:

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Yeah, soldier is thinking, ....oh ****, we're going bomb sniffing today....dog is thinking....awesome, we're going bomb sniffing today.
 
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peyton4heisman said:
I'm not one that gets offended easily, but this pic seems disrespectful for a couple of reasons that I can't exactly pinpoint.

Unless that soldier OK'd it, it seems inappropriate to use a soldier's picture to slap a Butch face on
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Theres nothing at all disrespectful about that picture. Im not saying its awesome or anything but its no where near disrespectful.

I would argue that a UT fan placing Butches head on a soldiers body is a reflection of how bad ass he thinks our soldiers are. The only way I could see it as disrespectful is if the OP thought Butch was a complete douche bag or something and thats clearly not the case. Just one mans opinion.

C'mon man!
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
As a somewhat recently retired soldier, I don't mind this at all. It's no different than putting Butch and Smokey in space on an astronaut's body, or on a bronco in the rodeo on a cowboy's body. Butch isn't claiming to take the same risks as soldiers, or equating himself to them in any serious way (in other words, he's not Winslow'ing). It's not disrespectful of our troops at all. I kinda like it. Go Vols!
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So glad to hear it from a former soldier. People talking about the picture being inappropriate or disrespectful just blows my mind. It does however explain a lot about the mentality of our society nowadays. Thanks for your service.
 
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