But he's just a 3* RB...

#29
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Realism is for work and life elsewhere.

Take your "realism" somewhere else. Go watch reality tv.

Recruiting is for fans. Go away now boy you bother me...
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Hahahahahaha :lolabove: hahahahahaha.

Sorry. Every three star recruit we ever get will be a pro bowl player sometime in their extended NFL career.

I mean, look at our track record over the past ten years with 3 star recruits. Look at all of the world beaters on that list.
 
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I thought I read somewhere that the stars are given based on how soon of an impact a player can usually have on a team. 5* players are expected to have major impact right away. 4* star players are expected to have an impact and are potential future all-americans. 3* players typically need to develop.

This is a blurb about the Rivals rating system:

6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect

6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player

4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about
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About Football Ratings

Obviously, many fans are interested in the recruiting process, the ratings, rankings, etc., but in the end its all up to the coaches, their internal assessments, and the best fits for the schemes they choose.

The public services don't always get it right and sometimes the coaches don't either. I figure coaches in the end will do a better job than the public services but coaches can't predict how a player will develop in time because of the human variables only the player can control.

CDD said recently when asked about 3* RB Tom Smith that he had been put on the shelf. Many have seemingly been disappointed in 4* WR Matt Milton. There are others, some surprises, some more disappointments.

About 1/2 of all the players we've signed over the past 2 classes and 1/2 of the players right now on the incoming class are all all-american candidates. Most will likely not win the award simply because winning the award is a numbers game. Few are selected.

One of the guys on our team that I think could really be great is Rajion Neal. IMO he has amazing talent but I sort of get the feeling that he's coasting on his laurels. CDD has even said as much in a round about way. He could be really special in our backfield but right now it doesn't seem like he wants it bad enough. To me as a fan that is disappointing for him and for the team.

When I look at 5*, 4*, or 3*, I tend to think about when they will likely start making a major contribution on a fully stocked roster. 5* should be right away, 4* could be right away, 3* depending on the position maybe in 1-2 years. That is the law of averages but of course there are exceptions due to human and other variables which yeild either surprises or disappointments in most all classes regardless of the number of stars awarded out of HS.

The 3*s that develop into superstars do so because of their internal drive to succeed moreso than their talent and skill sets coming out of HS. Likewise a 4 or 5* can fall flat on his face and be surpassed in time by the 3* simply because the one chose to work his butt off while the other was trying to get by on his HS reputation. JMO.

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#33
#33
Four of the top six rushers in the SEC were 5 stars.
Out of the top ten, seven were four stars or higher.

I'll take the four and five stars, you can have the threes.
 
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In the 11 months or so I've really followed recruiting, the one thing that strikes me is that Running Back is the drop-dead most simple position to evaluate. And the really good running backs are really good running backs when they're Freshman or Sophomores, so everybody knows who's good and who isn't really early on. Of all the positions that the services rank, RB is about the most accurate from what I've seen.

That goes a ways in explaining why Tennessee is out on so many big-time players. Other teams have been recruiting the good ones for years, long before Dooley ever thought about being the head coach here. It's gonna be the 2013 class before we'll get a big-name recruit that was ours from Jump Street.

When the relationships are built, the ***** will flow. Until then we'll just have to keep working like heck with the backs we got.
 
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It goes both ways. The successful 3*'s typically have the intangibles like the right mindset and willingness to work their azz's off. I'll take 4-5*'s all day over 3*'s put you just have to trust in the coaches ability to evaluate talent and continue to understand that OUR coaches are still developing relationships. It's pretty much a guarantee that we sign a 5* RB next year. Personally, I'm not overly worried as Lane and Neal have show the ability to make plays and Cross and Hill will be a nice counterbalance to their speed and shiftiness. Success hinges on the OL next year.
 
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rpeagram said:
All I remember is him fumbling inside the 10 yard line against Bama, PennSt, Bama, ........................

Sorry if I'm a glass half full person, but I believe he cost Tennessee at least three games....
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Arian didn't really like his time here...and I remember this as well.

Glad he is doing well. He was always a multi dimensional back.

The irony that he took over as starting rb for the Texans because they were experiencing fumbling problems will never be lost on me.
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
you can find a million 3 stars that turn out great

3 star is actually not a bad rating at all sure they may be a little underrated but its not a big deal

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It's easy to find 3-stars that turned out to be good, even great players. That's because there are a million of them in comparison to 4-stars and 5-stars. So naturally when you have a far greater pool to choose from it's easy to find ones that turned out to be great players.

The problem is for every 3-star Arian Foster type you can find a couple hundred 3-star RB's in every single recruiting class that dont pan out. Percentage-wise the odds aren't in your favor of finding the next "Arian".
 
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Stars are stars, players come to play.

I have posted before that our 3-stars have had a better success rate at contributing than the 5-stars, but with that said, that does not mean you throw 5-stars to the wind.

From 2004-2010 we had one 2-star, you know what he plays in the NFL, Jacob Hester.

None of the rating agencies had Tyrann Mathieu even rated until after LSU signed him.

Claiborne was like the #70th rated WR in the country, LSU signed him, took the time to convert him to CB, what do you know, you got probably a top 15 pick.
 
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