Building a Foundation

[GmanTN]

Alot of people seem to be angry over some of the recruits who have decided to go elsewhere to play. Some are upset that CLK advised some that they did not fit his scheme while others are upset that recruiters told recruits they were uncertain about their future with the program.

Then you have people who seem to be upset that not all assistant coaches vacancies have not been filled. CLK is not a magician that can wave his magic wand and currently employed coaches appear in orange.

Every successful company did not start out on top, you get to the top by getting the right people in management. Companies seek the best candidates available in the market for their management team and hires them. Management then goes out and recruits people that fit their organization thus giving the company a strong core for success.

As much as some fans think the Vols as a football team that we cheer for in the fall it is in fact a business and must be treated likewise. It is not a mom and pops deli, it is a multi million dollar company responsible for hundreds of jobs locally, it is a company responsible for logo apparel sales locally and nationally. All of this will not be possible without the proper foundation. If CLK tells a player he does not fit in with his program, that is smart PR work that will pay us back down the road for honesty. How many programs recruit players based on ratings, knowing that player does not fit their team but want the national rankings for recruiting. I would rather have 4 or 5 star recruits who fit our system then have 4 or 5 star recruits who do not and all we do is say: What happened to that guy he was rated so high coming out of highschool, was it the player did not live up to his potential or was it he went to a program and his style of play did not fit in? I want contributers not spectators.

Building a foundation takes time, it cannot be done in 2 weeks. Lets all try to exercise some patience and realize the big picture is long term and not the first month on the job.

 

[CountVolcula]

:good!:

 

[posivol]

Alot of people seem to be angry over some of the recruits who have decided to go elsewhere to play. Some are upset that CLK advised some that they did not fit his scheme while others are upset that recruiters told recruits they were uncertain about their future with the program.

Then you have people who seem to be upset that not all assistant coaches vacancies have not been filled. CLK is not a magician that can wave his magic wand and currently employed coaches appear in orange.

Every successful company did not start out on top, you get to the top by getting the right people in management. Companies seek the best candidates available in the market for their management team and hires them. Management then goes out and recruits people that fit their organization thus giving the company a strong core for success.

As much as some fans think the Vols as a football team that we cheer for in the fall it is in fact a business and must be treated likewise. It is not a mom and pops deli, it is a multi million dollar company responsible for hundreds of jobs locally, it is a company responsible for logo apparel sales locally and nationally. All of this will not be possible without the proper foundation. If CLK tells a player he does not fit in with his program, that is smart PR work that will pay us back down the road for honesty. How many programs recruit players based on ratings, knowing that player does not fit their team but want the national rankings for recruiting. I would rather have 4 or 5 star recruits who fit our system then have 4 or 5 star recruits who do not and all we do is say: What happened to that guy he was rated so high coming out of highschool, was it the player did not live up to his potential or was it he went to a program and his style of play did not fit in? I want contributers not spectators.

Building a foundation takes time, it cannot be done in 2 weeks. Lets all try to exercise some patience and realize the big picture is long term and not the first month on the job.

very well thought out,i would give it a A-

on another note,blah blah---blah blah blah------BLAH

can we get hank jr singing-------family tradition.

 

[TXVol_44]

Alot of people seem to be angry over some of the recruits who have decided to go elsewhere to play. Some are upset that CLK advised some that they did not fit his scheme while others are upset that recruiters told recruits they were uncertain about their future with the program.

Then you have people who seem to be upset that not all assistant coaches vacancies have not been filled. CLK is not a magician that can wave his magic wand and currently employed coaches appear in orange.

Every successful company did not start out on top, you get to the top by getting the right people in management. Companies seek the best candidates available in the market for their management team and hires them. Management then goes out and recruits people that fit their organization thus giving the company a strong core for success.

As much as some fans think the Vols as a football team that we cheer for in the fall it is in fact a business and must be treated likewise. It is not a mom and pops deli, it is a multi million dollar company responsible for hundreds of jobs locally, it is a company responsible for logo apparel sales locally and nationally. All of this will not be possible without the proper foundation. If CLK tells a player he does not fit in with his program, that is smart PR work that will pay us back down the road for honesty. How many programs recruit players based on ratings, knowing that player does not fit their team but want the national rankings for recruiting. I would rather have 4 or 5 star recruits who fit our system then have 4 or 5 star recruits who do not and all we do is say: What happened to that guy he was rated so high coming out of highschool, was it the player did not live up to his potential or was it he went to a program and his style of play did not fit in? I want contributers not spectators.

Building a foundation takes time, it cannot be done in 2 weeks. Lets all try to exercise some patience and realize the big picture is long term and not the first month on the job.

To draw a parallel, J. Majors didn't run the triple option when he had Matt Cavanaugh and Tony Dorsett at Pitt. But when he arrived at Tennessee in '77, he chose to fit an offense to the current players, not the players to the new offense. He turned it around in 3 years (4-7, 5-5-1, 7-4). CLK is taking the opposite approach: His System will demand certain players with certain skillsets. Whoever adjusts to that system will be on the field next year...including a bunch of freshmen and JC tranfer juniors. I like his approach. Expect 7-5 or so next year.

 

[coffeevol]

very well thought out,i would give it a A-

on another note,blah blah---blah blah blah------BLAH

can we get hank jr singing-------family tradition.

nice, real nice

 

[VolinDawgland]

To draw a parallel, J. Majors didn't run the triple option when he had Matt Cavanaugh and Tony Dorsett at Pitt. But when he arrived at Tennessee in '77, he chose to fit an offense to the current players, not the players to the new offense. He turned it around in 3 years (4-7, 5-5-1, 7-4). CLK is taking the opposite approach: His System will demand certain players with certain skillsets. Whoever adjusts to that system will be on the field next year...including a bunch of freshmen and JC tranfer juniors. I like his approach. Expect 7-5 or so next year.

I don't think CLK's system will be drastically different in terms of personnel requirements than what Tennessee has been running up to this past year. We've been a pro style offense for years and CLK plans to run a pro style offense. We just haven't recruited and executed as well as needed to stay at a top level. I'm hoping the new staff will change that.

 

[CountVolcula]

very well thought out,i would give it a A-

on another note,blah blah---blah blah blah------BLAH

can we get hank jr singing-------family tradition.

Here is some reading material that may help

 

[TXVol_44]

I don't think CLK's system will be drastically different in terms of personnel requirements than what Tennessee has been running up to this past year. We've been a pro style offense for years and CLK plans to run a pro style offense. We just haven't recruited and executed as well as needed to stay at a top level. I'm hoping the new staff will change that.

Not in requirements, but in talent. I would say that our skill positions--QB, WR are two that we do not have right now, and those are certainly CRITICAL to CLK's spread. Would you argue that we need QBs that can read defenses and WRs that can stretch the field?

 

[GmanTN]

very well thought out,i would give it a A-

on another note,blah blah---blah blah blah------BLAH

can we get hank jr singing-------family tradition.

I have you figured out Posi, you're not a Vol fan instead you are a fan of yourself. As I have asked you numerous times for facts all you come up with is childish jabs. I would think your circle of friends consist of family members who have to tolerate you. I have yet to read any post from you containing facts or logic.FYI no one likes a person who only knows childish jabs and idiotic remarks
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[iceman9]

Keeping on the theme of foundations, I found this tidbit on CLK when he took over the Raiders. Gives a few items on his philosophy of QB and OL play, also the fact he got a wrist slap from the league on his mini-camp being a bit too stenuous. But, what I got from it, is that he does thing his way, and he's his own man................Penalty proves it’s Kiffin’s show - Inside The Oakland Raiders - A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of ANG Newspapers

 

[BIGVOLDADDY]

Gman,
Well thought out post. I think you are right in your thinking that it will take some time.
We will have to wait and see what happens with CLK, his philosophy, and recruiting. Also who he hires and how the players respond.

 

[Rockytop]

Not in requirements, but in talent. I would say that our skill positions--QB, WR are two that we do not have right now, and those are certainly CRITICAL to CLK's spread. Would you argue that we need QBs that can read defenses and WRs that can stretch the field?

Im just hoping ppl don't start actually using this phrase. Just as Clawson didn't run the spread last year contrary to what some of you think, CLK is NOT going to run the spread offense.

 

[TXVol_44]

Im just hoping ppl don't start actually using this phrase. Just as Clawson didn't run the spread last year contrary to what some of you think, CLK is NOT going to run the spread offense.

All's we know from the press conference on Day 1 is that the offense will change from the scheme DC brought to town. Whether that is a spread or a Wing-T...I don't know. I'm assuming and I shouldn't. Similarly, you can't say that he won't run a spread-type of offense because we just don't know for sure. Thanks for calling me on it.

 

[BeecherVol]

Alot of people seem to be angry over some of the recruits who have decided to go elsewhere to play. Some are upset that CLK advised some that they did not fit his scheme while others are upset that recruiters told recruits they were uncertain about their future with the program.

Then you have people who seem to be upset that not all assistant coaches vacancies have not been filled. CLK is not a magician that can wave his magic wand and currently employed coaches appear in orange.

Every successful company did not start out on top, you get to the top by getting the right people in management. Companies seek the best candidates available in the market for their management team and hires them. Management then goes out and recruits people that fit their organization thus giving the company a strong core for success.

As much as some fans think the Vols as a football team that we cheer for in the fall it is in fact a business and must be treated likewise. It is not a mom and pops deli, it is a multi million dollar company responsible for hundreds of jobs locally, it is a company responsible for logo apparel sales locally and nationally. All of this will not be possible without the proper foundation. If CLK tells a player he does not fit in with his program, that is smart PR work that will pay us back down the road for honesty. How many programs recruit players based on ratings, knowing that player does not fit their team but want the national rankings for recruiting. I would rather have 4 or 5 star recruits who fit our system then have 4 or 5 star recruits who do not and all we do is say: What happened to that guy he was rated so high coming out of highschool, was it the player did not live up to his potential or was it he went to a program and his style of play did not fit in? I want contributers not spectators.

Building a foundation takes time, it cannot be done in 2 weeks. Lets all try to exercise some patience and realize the big picture is long term and not the first month on the job.

Well said,
We haven't agreed on everything we have discussed in the past, but on this one you will not see any argument out of me.:good!:

 

[Volballfan]

:good!:

 

[ttocswob]

+1 Gman!

VolinDawgland - ditto on pro style offense, except that it has dwindled in recent years - witness the vanishing fullback, no-back sets, and goofing around with wild hog variations.

CLK will put the "pro" back in our offense.

 

[General Jack]

Alot of people seem to be angry over some of the recruits who have decided to go elsewhere to play. Some are upset that CLK advised some that they did not fit his scheme while others are upset that recruiters told recruits they were uncertain about their future with the program.

Then you have people who seem to be upset that not all assistant coaches vacancies have not been filled. CLK is not a magician that can wave his magic wand and currently employed coaches appear in orange.

Every successful company did not start out on top, you get to the top by getting the right people in management. Companies seek the best candidates available in the market for their management team and hires them. Management then goes out and recruits people that fit their organization thus giving the company a strong core for success.

As much as some fans think the Vols as a football team that we cheer for in the fall it is in fact a business and must be treated likewise. It is not a mom and pops deli, it is a multi million dollar company responsible for hundreds of jobs locally, it is a company responsible for logo apparel sales locally and nationally. All of this will not be possible without the proper foundation. If CLK tells a player he does not fit in with his program, that is smart PR work that will pay us back down the road for honesty. How many programs recruit players based on ratings, knowing that player does not fit their team but want the national rankings for recruiting. I would rather have 4 or 5 star recruits who fit our system then have 4 or 5 star recruits who do not and all we do is say: What happened to that guy he was rated so high coming out of highschool, was it the player did not live up to his potential or was it he went to a program and his style of play did not fit in? I want contributers not spectators.

Building a foundation takes time, it cannot be done in 2 weeks. Lets all try to exercise some patience and realize the big picture is long term and not the first month on the job.

I agree and good post, but our instant gratification society will have a hard time being patient. The anti-Kiffins will be quick to reference Coker, Tressel, Meyer and Stoops, all of whom won the NC within 2 years over the past decade.

On another note, I think the improvement in our QB play next year will be the most pleasant surprise.

 

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[volger]

Nice one Gman. We dont see eye to eye on much either, but cudos to post. :good!: