Bryce Brown decision (merged)

Will Bryce Brown return to play (be listed on a gameday roster) for Tennessee?

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#1,701
#1,701
And all of the Brown nosers will be there!




Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week...
 
#1,702
#1,702
sjt18 said:
Yes they did. Do we need to bump some of those threads where folks like me got lambasted for suggesting that Hardesty would start over Brown?
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I mispoke there. Not sure what I was thinking about. There were many who thought Brown would be our top back.
That may be true. Kiffin was trying to get quality players in as fast as he could. The shortest route to doing that could be helped by allowing recruits to see a highly rated, very high profile signee having a good year as a Freshman. It doesn't help so much having him get beaten out by a RS Sophomore and former 3* recruit under the old staff.
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Precisely what I was saying..
Honestly, if that is true (and I personally suspect it isn't) then Poole stinks out loud.

Brown showed me two things last year. One, that he's a very gifted athlete with huge upside. Two, that he has very raw RB skills. He doesn't see holes. He doesn't set up blocks. He runs up blockers' backs unnecessarily. He showed very little "shake". And maybe worst for a guy with his size and power, he wasn't difficult to tackle.

-I feel for him. I want him to stay... but if anyone's performance last year is being over-rated it is Brown's.
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This is just ridiculous. Did you see Brown play? He displayed a lot of talent and showed good vision. He did a lot of things that many freshman RBs are guilty of, but he looked every bit as good as Trent Richardson during the regular season.

Brown is a talent and he's a surefire star.
That's possible. Poole may not be any good at all. We don't know because he really didn't get a chance though most practice reports and comments by Poole and others suggest that he should have gotten one.

We did get to see plenty of Brown. He wasn't ready skill-wise for that level of competition.
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I agree that Poole should have had more of a chance, but I seriously do not understand where you are coming from with the comment that you don't think he was ready. He never showed any signs of not being ready for this level of competition.

Bryce Brown was no question the best RB besides Hardesty last year. And he showed enough promise for other teams to take note.
 
#1,704
#1,704
Brown quit only to do an evaluation of the coaching staff. Apparently, it's taking him a longer time than he first thought to complete his assessment and make the decision about whether to come back.
 
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#1,706
#1,706
I think he stays. No inside info, just an educated guess based on a bunch of different factors.

I could certainly be wrong.
 
#1,707
#1,707
Give_Him_6! said:
Nick Reveiz on Bryce Brown: If he wanted to come back, we would have open arms GoVolsXtra

Saw this article and thought it was interesting.According to Nick sounds as if Bryce has already gone. Am I reading this or not?
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Well he isn't currently on the team so in that sense he is gone.

I know what you are saying about the tone of the article, it makes it seem like Bryce already has his mind made up to leave. I don't think that's the case or it would have already happened.
 
#1,709
#1,709
Sab, no way BB was as good as Trent Richardson last year and it wasnt even close. BB wasnt half the back TR was last year.
 
#1,710
#1,710
rexvol said:
Sab, no way BB was as good as Trent Richardson last year and it wasnt even close. BB wasnt half the back TR was last year.
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Trent Richardson is a great between the tackles type of RB and better at attacking more than Brown, however I think BB gives you more options, especially with the passing game out of the backfield. BB did have that hip injury that could have afected his performance as far as attacking defenders.... 6 one way, half a dozen the other. I would be happy with either player for Tennessee.
 
#1,711
#1,711
Sabanocchio said:
This is just ridiculous. Did you see Brown play? He displayed a lot of talent and showed good vision. He did a lot of things that many freshman RBs are guilty of, but he looked every bit as good as Trent Richardson during the regular season.
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Yes I saw him... and no he didn't to pretty much everything else. I remember several times when he had the corner with a one on one blocker in front of him and still managed to tackle himself.

I NEVER recall watching him see a hole, plant his foot, and make an SEC level cut. I do remember him several times lunging into the backs of the OL.

Again, I think he has great upside talent but his RB skills need serious work.

Brown is a talent and he's a surefire star.
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Not unless he develops his skills. He isn't close to that level right now and wasn't last fall. Had he been that good, MH wouldn't have seen 282 carries much less 1000 yards. There is NOTHING that would have played into CLK's plan better than having BB with 280 carries and 1000 yds.

I agree that Poole should have had more of a chance, but I seriously do not understand where you are coming from with the comment that you don't think he was ready. He never showed any signs of not being ready for this level of competition.
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BB avg'd 4.55 ypc overall which sounds great until you look deeper. He avg'd less than 4 ypc against the SEC, teams with a winning record, and ranked teams.

If you consider many of his yds vs Ole Miss came in mop up, it gets even worse.

He's big and he's fast. That got him yards against lesser opponents and one big run vs So Car. Without that 37 yd run... he's again under 4 ypc.

For him to become a superstar, he MUST improve his vision, cutting, tackle breaking, patience,... pretty much everything.

Bryce Brown was no question the best RB besides Hardesty last year. And he showed enough promise for other teams to take note.
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I don't know for sure if he was or wasn't because the guy who might have been his competition wasn't given enough chances to make a comparison. Like I said though, if he was then Poole was not very good.
 
#1,712
#1,712
TNsnyper20 said:
Trent Richardson is a great between the tackles type of RB and better at attacking more than Brown, however I think BB gives you more options, especially with the passing game out of the backfield. BB did have that hip injury that could have afected his performance as far as attacking defenders.... 6 one way, half a dozen the other. I would be happy with either player for Tennessee.
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BB does have above average hands, but TR was clearly the better all around back last year, hands down.
 
#1,714
#1,714
rexvol said:
Sab, no way BB was as good as Trent Richardson last year and it wasnt even close. BB wasnt half the back TR was last year.
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Production-wise he was just as good during the most of the regular season. And he wasn't running behind an offensive line of Alabama's caliber.

I do think that Richardson is the real deal and will be a star back as well, but many are forgetting that Brown's production was on par with Richardson's for most of the year. They kind of jockeyed back and forth for the position much of the year. Richardson is probably the better back, but the fact that Brown put up similar numbers is worthy of note.

My main point is that these Brown-bashers on here are seriously selling him short. The fact that he played injured the entire year, yet still put up the numbers he did is should be considered.
 
#1,715
#1,715
cutnitclose said:
Garbage? Me? Wow... You do realize Kitten is gone now don't you?
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Hilarious and very original. I mean, wow, where in the world did you come up with that for Kiffin? But, I get it. Kiffin ... Kitten ... spelled similar .... sound similar. Man, you should do stand up.

And, yes, it was garbage.
 
#1,716
#1,716
utvolpj said:
fyp
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Exactly, and as far as "not half the back" Richardson was, that's just ridiculous. They were neck in neck for most of the year. Brown put up 211 less rushing yards in the regular season and considering the fact that he was limited in several games, that's not surprising.

4.6 ypc avg vs. 5.2. and Bryce had 44 fewer carries than did Richardson.

An argument could be made that Richardson was the better back, and I think it's pretty clear he was, but "not half the back"? Not close to true.
 
#1,718
#1,718
Fact is nobody knows how BB is going to end up. He could end up a real stud or be a total bust. Lasy year showed either could potentially happen. The thing that leads me to believe he will not end up that good is that he never had one break away run. He does not appear to be able to see the gaps very well. But then again, by his second or third year the game might have slowed down to him and this would change. Staying out of all spring ball won't help this last part though.
 
#1,719
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Fact is nobody knows how BB is going to end up. He could end up a real stud or be a total bust. Lasy year showed either could potentially happen. The thing that leads me to believe he will not end up that good is that he never had one break away run. He does not appear to be able to see the gaps very well. But then again, by his second or third year the game might have slowed down to him and this would change. Staying out of all spring ball won't help this last part though.
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What is so difficult for people to comprehend about "semi-serious, nagging hip injury"?

The question is not whether he will be a stud/bust. The question is about whether he has the talent and skills to be a stud. No one can predict 100% of the time who will follow through. All you can do is continue to get the talent on your team. Kiffin understands this. Dooley understands this (I think and hope).
 
#1,720
#1,720
Even if he decides to stay, I can't believe that they would just let a player come back on the team after deciding on their own not to participate in spring practice, and then all of a sudden let them return to practice in the fall just like nothing happened. It almost reminds me of some of those NFL players who decide to hold out for more money or something because they're not happy with their contracts, or the team or whatever.
 
#1,721
#1,721
What's the status of Bryce Brown? Did he hit the road? Sorry, been away from Vol news for quite a long time. A quick update on the situation would be much appreciated.

From reading the last post by ihatethebuckeyes, it gives me the impression that he is done. The naysayers only tweet when things go astray, it seems.
 
#1,722
#1,722
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Fact is nobody knows how BB is going to end up. He could end up a real stud or be a total bust. Lasy year showed either could potentially happen. The thing that leads me to believe he will not end up that good is that he never had one break away run. He does not appear to be able to see the gaps very well. But then again, by his second or third year the game might have slowed down to him and this would change. Staying out of all spring ball won't help this last part though.
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Your football analysis is roughly on par with your other analysis attempts, I see.
 
#1,723
#1,723
Sabanocchio said:
Exactly, and as far as "not half the back" Richardson was, that's just ridiculous. They were neck in neck for most of the year. Brown put up 211 less rushing yards in the regular season and considering the fact that he was limited in several games, that's not surprising.

4.6 ypc avg vs. 5.2. and Bryce had 44 fewer carries than did Richardson.
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So with 44 more carries at 4.6 ypc, that would be an additional 202 yards putting Brown just behind Richardson. Not bad at all for a freshman with half the line as Richardson.
 
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