brutality is the new reality

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UTFranklinVol said:
MAN, looking at that 4 year conference schedule I'm sweating already 😅

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. when the league expanded to 16 and now expanded to a 9 game conference schedule, there will no longer be such a thing as a "relatively easy" schedule. you're most likely going to play 5 or 6 or maybe 7 ranked teams every year and that's assuming your OOC power 4 game is against a crappy unranked team. every other year having up to 5 true road SEC games on top of that and you can expect the "new ceiling" for any team to be 10-2

couple this with a conference championship game and an expanded playoff structure and even the most elite football team will just be praying to make it through to the end.

this is the new reality.
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Where is it posted? I wanna see it
 
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Nevermind I see it. Honestly to me it balances out. In the past you couldn’t lose 1 game or else your season was over. Now you have a 2 game cushion. Also we have way batter roster and coaching.

Bring em on!!!!!!!!! Let’s get it!!!!!!
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
MAN, looking at that 4 year conference schedule I'm sweating already 😅

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. when the league expanded to 16 and now expanded to a 9 game conference schedule, there will no longer be such a thing as a "relatively easy" schedule. you're most likely going to play 5 or 6 or maybe 7 ranked teams every year and that's assuming your OOC power 4 game is against a crappy unranked team. every other year having up to 5 true road SEC games on top of that and you can expect the "new ceiling" for any team to be 10-2

couple this with a conference championship game and an expanded playoff structure and even the most elite football team will just be praying to make it through to the end.

this is the new reality.
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Quality Depth is the key. I believe CJH is building towards that fundamentally. Portal, NIL will and will not help but Quality depth is the key. It is a crap shoot right now for all.

The problem is that you cannot ignore is that the SEC is a physical league from top to bottom and there are no soft teams on the conference schedule. B10 and other conferences physicality drops significantly at the 6 team and below. The SEC does not have a huge drop off, if any.

Strong, Big and fast combined with smarts on both sides of the ball with leaders on the field. Takes time to develop. No more finessing or fancy.

Cupcakes are still needed for survival through a brutal schedule.
 
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Discounting the quality of opponent for a sec, our schedule stacks up pretty favorably in even years. With Vandy road games in '26 and '28, it's pretty much like we have 5 home games, 3 road games, and one sort of neutral-site-ish game in Neyland West. Odd years are a more typical 5 true road games.

Makes me take a longer look at stuff like Florida/Georgia being traditionally in Jacksonville every year. Would you rather have a stronger home schedule every other year? Or a neutral site game like that? Florida and Georgia won't ever have five true road games. But they also won't have five home games. I think you take the home game and it's a no brainer from a revenue standpoint. But it's interesting to think about from a difficulty perspective.
 
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adam.vol said:
We shouldn’t be trying to play against Big 10 and Big 12 winners for a championship. There is no longer any equality in comparing records.
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This is my only real problem with the new schedule. While the national media bends over backward to equate the SEC and Big 10 and the "committee" treats us as equals, we're going to be playing at the bare minimum 5-6 brutally hard games every year (usually more like 7-8) while Penn State and Indiana play a couple of tough games and beat up on the likes of UCLA, Northwestern, Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland the rest of the season and make the playoff at 10-2 or 11-1.

I would be thrilled if the SEC had a four-team playoff to determine a champion every year and just screw the rest of CFB.
 
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sami said:
I would be thrilled if the SEC had a four-team playoff to determine a champion every year and just screw the rest of CFB.
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That’s what I wish for, too. This relationship with the Big 10 has been one sided as they have made the SEC make sacrifices that do not benefit the SEC.
 
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The media is always going to favor the B1G! There is truly no comparison to the SEC. Besides Ohio State and occasionally Michigan, the B1G will never be as strong as the upper tier of the SEC. Penn State would not even be upper tier in the SEC. In fact, I would say mid tier teams in the SEC would win against Penn State the majority of the time. Since Franklin has been there, they are 2-4 vs the SEC and those wins are against a down Auburn and one of those years it was a close game.

In final, my point is that there is NO comparison to ANY conference vs the SEC top to bottom. If a comparison really wants to be made, let’s do like basketball and have an SEC vs B1G weekend, except let’s rank the teams top to bottom in each league based on previous season (with tie breakers to determine rank) and then play 1vs1, 2vs2, and so on. Let the cards fall where they may. Then this SEC vs B1G can be put to rest.
 
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howie87 said:
So what? I've personally watched enough games of UT vs ETSU or Alabama vs Chattanooga. If this means there is more quantity and quality competitive football against more closely matched teams, I don't see how this is a bad thing.

The only crowd standing outside yelling at the clouds over this is the group who thinks going 15-0 means something while beating up on teams like Samford and Wofford.
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I think I have to agree with this.
 
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GVF said:
9 SEC games
1 P4 OOC
2 OOC paycheck games so the opponent can fund their team.

See no issue. We won't be the only SEC team having to do this. We need better conference team rotation anyway. Can't tell you last time we played LSU.
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2022v? Or 23 we beat the breaks off of them.
 
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I am all for more competitive games all around, but I do still think there needs to be a serious discussion had about exactly how SOS is calculated and used. As others have mentioned the SEC schedule for all teams in the conference will likely be much harder than teams in any other conference, and they way teams are compared needs to take that into account. That is the one concern I have about the 9 conference games.

Basically what I think may end up happening is teams play their tough conference games and then cupcakes. The issue with this is that then we will have no direct data with which to compare conferences against each other and at best we will have to use 1 step removed cupcakes to compare.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Coaches are probably the ones sweating the most right now. As we all know winning is the top priority in this profession and it just got a lot tougher. Hopefully there will be a reckoning that 10 wins will be the gold std or there is going to be a lot of coaching changes. Going to be interesting for sure.
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So here at work, the company has went to a "comparative" standard when it comes to job performance and merits.
It works both for and against you...
For you because if you are doing better than the people around you doing the same job (say coaches are consistently winning 8 a year and your winning 10 - your job is safe)
Against you because what if there is that time you exceed your 'norm', there is no added merit and then the bar of expectation for you is higher afterward (say you are a consistent 10 game winner and things fall into place and you win 12 or 13 and a title - no extra merit, but increased expectation)

Granted in my scenarios, any coach winning a title does get extra cash and job security, but that bar inches higher
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
MAN, looking at that 4 year conference schedule I'm sweating already 😅

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. when the league expanded to 16 and now expanded to a 9 game conference schedule, there will no longer be such a thing as a "relatively easy" schedule. you're most likely going to play 5 or 6 or maybe 7 ranked teams every year and that's assuming your OOC power 4 game is against a crappy unranked team. every other year having up to 5 true road SEC games on top of that and you can expect the "new ceiling" for any team to be 10-2

couple this with a conference championship game and an expanded playoff structure and even the most elite football team will just be praying to make it through to the end.

this is the new reality.
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Yes, the SEC really screwed over it's members with this. Expect the B10 to get 5 or 6 teams in (since they really play nobody). The SEC will probably miss all the byes and the few teams that get in will be playing road games in the B10 in December. That's just the reality of it. In the B10, all you have to do is win a couple of hard games and you are in. Look at Penn St. schedule this year. They have 2 hard games and the rest are almost gimmies. If they win ONE of those hard game they are in and will have home field advantage. When this starts, the reality of it will be obvious.
 
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volfan411 said:
Agreed with these schedules every team is now an injury or two away from ruining your whole season. I think this schedule is great for the fans but it will take its toll on a roster.
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I've been saying this ever since they expanded the play offs= the championship of today reflects which teams can make it thru the gauntlet of regular schedule, then play offs without losing key players to injuries. Football is not like basketball or baseball, You get a conference full of top recruited players banging into each other and you're gonna have players get injured
 
#44
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UTFranklinVol said:
MAN, looking at that 4 year conference schedule I'm sweating already 😅

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. when the league expanded to 16 and now expanded to a 9 game conference schedule, there will no longer be such a thing as a "relatively easy" schedule. you're most likely going to play 5 or 6 or maybe 7 ranked teams every year and that's assuming your OOC power 4 game is against a crappy unranked team. every other year having up to 5 true road SEC games on top of that and you can expect the "new ceiling" for any team to be 10-2

couple this with a conference championship game and an expanded playoff structure and even the most elite football team will just be praying to make it through to the end.

this is the new reality.
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The New Way penalizes the SEC for having better mid-level teams than the Big10, ACC, etc. my brother.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
MAN, looking at that 4 year conference schedule I'm sweating already 😅

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. when the league expanded to 16 and now expanded to a 9 game conference schedule, there will no longer be such a thing as a "relatively easy" schedule. you're most likely going to play 5 or 6 or maybe 7 ranked teams every year and that's assuming your OOC power 4 game is against a crappy unranked team. every other year having up to 5 true road SEC games on top of that and you can expect the "new ceiling" for any team to be 10-2

couple this with a conference championship game and an expanded playoff structure and even the most elite football team will just be praying to make it through to the end.

this is the new reality.
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Definitely. No one getting a "pass" or really carrying a lighter load...even Vols. Everyone's schedules are brutal. If anyone gets a pass, it's UGA because they don't play themselves. I can definitely see a world where consistently a 2 loss conf team is playing in SEC CG, and a four loss SEC season isn't a "trash" season.
 
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I don't get all the complaining about hard schedules from fans all across the league. Great players want to play great players, not beat up on guys who should be playing D2 ball. Do you want to see Muhammad Ali take on Joe Frazier or Tex Cobb? Sure, playing East Middle Delaware State gets you a win, but a season of them gets you ready to be blasted out of the playoffs when you face a real team.

"But it will make our playoff bracket harder!!!" So what? Go kick their a$$es up and down the field. Unless you are afraid you aren't really good enough. If you don't like it, move over the Pac12. Hear they are looking for teams.
 
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Okie said:
I don't get all the complaining about hard schedules from fans all across the league. Great players want to play great players, not beat up on guys who should be playing D2 ball. Do you want to see Muhammad Ali take on Joe Frazier or Tex Cobb? Sure, playing East Middle Delaware State gets you a win, but a season of them gets you ready to be blasted out of the playoffs when you face a real team.

"But it will make our playoff bracket harder!!!" So what? Go kick their a$$es up and down the field. Unless you are afraid you aren't really good enough. If you don't like it, move over the Pac12. Hear they are looking for teams.
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it's all fun and games until you look up and there's 7 or 8 nationally ranked opponents on your schedule 😂

meanwhile tOSU gets to play PSU, Michigan and that's f@cking all!

I'm all for the ultra tough schedule as long as the dumbass playoff committee HIGHLY weighs strength of schedule. Because from now on a 3 loss SEC team could be better than anything the B10 has!
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
it's all fun and games until you look up and there's 7 or 8 nationally ranked opponents on your schedule 😂

meanwhile tOSU gets to play PSU, Michigan and that's f@cking all!

I'm all for the ultra tough schedule as long as the dumbass playoff committee HIGHLY weighs strength of schedule. Because from now on a 3 loss SEC team could be better than anything the B10 has!
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Yup. We can sit on Volnation during the CFP talking about how hard our schedule was, we want to play the best all the while B1G teams cruise into the CFP
If ranking is mainly W/L record like now then the SEC won't be getting many teams in as I see 9-3 as the new norm.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
MAN, looking at that 4 year conference schedule I'm sweating already 😅

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. when the league expanded to 16 and now expanded to a 9 game conference schedule, there will no longer be such a thing as a "relatively easy" schedule. you're most likely going to play 5 or 6 or maybe 7 ranked teams every year and that's assuming your OOC power 4 game is against a crappy unranked team. every other year having up to 5 true road SEC games on top of that and you can expect the "new ceiling" for any team to be 10-2

couple this with a conference championship game and an expanded playoff structure and even the most elite football team will just be praying to make it through to the end.

this is the new reality.
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Looks like everyone else including us, has to deal with it. It’s like complaining that the game we are about to play is going to be soaked with rain… both teams have to play in it….
 
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