Briscoe

[OrangePappy]

Calling a 3 star a bust...ehhh.

I think he played to his rating.

I think you are being generous. The only memorable catch he made was against Wisconsin and even that one had to be reviewed to see if he blew it that time.

 

[Sabanocchio]

Considering that it had been just short of three full calendar years since their previous win (10/18/1986 to 9/30/1989), I'd say it worked quite well. Their five-win season in 1990 was only the 4th since 1954.

If you're not familiar with it, it's almost incomprehensible just how bad Kansas State was before Snyder got there.

I am familiar with the situation. It is a poor example to back up your assertion that telling the players they are going to suck is good coaching. It's not, however you want to paint it. It's stupid. This isn't Kansas State where you were hired to take over a losing situation. The offense was doing well and was expected to continue doing well. To put in a system that the players could not grasp quick enough to make a bowl game is a stupid move.

I blamed the pathetic play of the offensive line on Greg Adkins. This was not a one-year crapfest either; it's been evident from the day that he took over the offensive line that the OC would have to design schemes to minimize the role of the line in playing the game. That's a hell of a position to put someone in.

Yes, you did. And you are wrong as I illustrated.

What difference does it make? The fact that something isn't a primary weapon anywhere else doesn't inherently make it a bad idea. The fact that no one else outside of Navy ran their type of offense doesn't mean that it can't be done well; ditto Nevada.

I'd say it is a pretty clear indication that it's a bad idea and if you want proof, then look at the results it had on our O-line. It doesn't even make sense as a tactic at this level. It's hard enough on a college player to learn one position. Why would you ask them to learn every position on the line? Some guys can do that, but not very many and certainly not everybody. No one else does it because it is dumb. Is this honestly a practice you would like to see continue at UT after how badly it failed? I want this team to win. It was clear to most everybody very early that it was hurting the line more than it was helping.

S&C was not the primary problem facing the offensive line, which is what I was referring to.

Show me where I said it was. I never did. You said it wasn't a problem. I showed that it was.

Kiffin firing the S&C coach also has zero bearing on whether he was doing a good job. The defense this past year allowed the fewest points since 1999, yet the entire staff was canned within minutes of Kiffin signing the paperwork.

This only makes sense if Kiffin already had someone lined up for the job, which he didn't. He fired the defensive staff because he had a replacement and that replacement wanted to bring in his own coaches. Regardless, the S&C coach was NOT doing a good job. Kiffin told the O-line that they needed to get in shape and even called them soft or something to that effect. I actually think I'm understating it, I believe it was far more to the point. Saying that the S&C program wasn't an issue is an outright lack of observation. It could be nothing else. Most everyone around here will tell you it was most certainly an issue.

Bottom line is Clawson did an awful job at just about everything and Fulmer let him. They both deserved to be fired and were. I have no doubt that Clawson had some good ideas, but he shot himself in the foot with the way he tried to install his offense and then sealed his fate by not making wholesale changes when it was obvious it wasn't working. He did a lousy job. He was clearly not ready for the task and he's gone.

 

[hatvol96]

When Bill Snyder took over Kansas State, he conducted exit interviews with the outgoing seniors and basically told them, "Although you won't be here to see the success that we will have, you have set the example by persevering through some very trying times that will carry the remaining parts of this team a long way. We won't forget that."

He also met with the juniors and said, "Although we will struggle this year, the legacy that you carry with you will be seen by what the two classes below you do. How you want to be remembered is up to you."

They went 1-10 that first year, then 5-6, then 7-4, all at the worst school in NCAA history.



I already did by mentioning Florida State.



Judging from all the powerlifting records, S&C wasn't the problem. I didn't see anyone gassed after three plays or partway through the second quarter, but I sure as hell saw a lot of absolutely abominable technique from the first snap of every game.

S&C wasn't the issue...grabbing a guy under the armpits and trying to steer him away from the ballcarrier without moving the feet was. That's all Adkins.

Having a bunch of jellyassed wannabe powerlifters was a huge problem on the offensive line. The decline of UT football can be directly traced to Johhny Long taking over from John Stuckey. Wait and see where Long's next job is, if he can even get one. That said, Adkins was also totally incompetent.

 

[rockytophigh]

I think both you guys are right. Adkins did a subpar job coaching technique and Long took the S&C program to all time lows. I also think Cutcliffe was the only smidget of discipline our team had.

Two things.....1. Does anyone remember a S&C coach we had some years ago named Tim...something? He was outstanding IMO. 2. I'm pretty sure our lineman have been interchangable for years. They have learned multiple positions for years...if they'd only been taught to block.

 

[volfan98]

Briscoe was a bust in every way....terrible player

 

[Ohio Vol]

Having a bunch of jellyassed wannabe powerlifters was a huge problem on the offensive line. The decline of UT football can be directly traced to Johhny Long taking over from John Stuckey. Wait and see where Long's next job is, if he can even get one. That said, Adkins was also totally incompetent.

What are your thoughts on Tom Myslinski?

 

[whall12]

It all relates to being way out of shape and having NO discipline, and that falls directly on Fulmer. That's the bottom line to everything. These guys are gone and thank god for it; so let's just stop talking about them.

 

[overseasvolfan]

should be a vn guru knows more about tenn football then most

 

[hatvol96]

What are your thoughts on Tom Myslinski?

He certainly exhibited the kind of attitude as a player that I would like to see our offensive line play with.

 

[hatvol96]

What are your thoughts on Tom Myslinski?

I would assume his preference is to stay in the NFL.

 

[LittleDTO]

Alot of people are bashing Briscoe for stating his opinion. However, it is the same opinion that each and everyone of us has had over the last season. If Clawson came in with a two year plan, then Coach Fulmer is responsible for all the problems. He should know that a two year plan won't fly in the SEC.

I completely disagree. Auburn couldnt change over to a spread option offense in 1 season plus a bowl game. Florida didnt run the spread option consistantly until Tebow's sophmore year and they lost several games.

 

[Ohio Vol]

I would assume his preference is to stay in the NFL.

As a Browns fan, this team is barely in the NFL as it is.

Nothing quite like watching an owner who fancies himself some sort of Steinbrenner-lite completely dismantle what was getting to be a quality team.