Bring Fulmer and Chief back

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FLSTF-VOL said:
Again, what we have now is better? No matter how you try to justify it, it was a bad move, period! Like David Ligon stated on the radio this evening, be careful what you wish for. At least we had a chance with Fulmer and Chavis. What do we have now, again? Do I really need to point out the current coach's record? How is it working out now against decent coach's in the SEC at this point?
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Do you think most of us want to keep Dooley? Both Fulmer and Dooley are bad, not sure what you are trying to accomplish by saying Fulmer would be better here now, we would still suck. It was time for Fulmer to go and the hires afterward went bad but that doesn't make getting rid of Phil a bad decision.
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Again, what we have now is better? No matter how you try to justify it, it was a bad move, period! Like David Ligon stated on the radio this evening, be careful what you wish for. At least we had a chance with Fulmer and Chavis. What do we have now, again? Do I really need to point out the current coach's record? How is it working out now against decent coach's in the SEC at this point?
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This would make sense if Fulmer was the only coach we were allowed to replace Dooley with. Why does it have to be one of those two? Why can't it be neither?
 
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Volsfan895 said:
Do you think most of us want to keep Dooley? Both Fulmer and Dooley are bad, not sure what you are trying to accomplish by saying Fulmer would be better here now, we would still suck. It was time for Fulmer to go and the hires afterward went bad but that doesn't make getting rid of Phil a bad decision.
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Firing Fulmer without a plan in place was the beginning of the end for UT football in the foreseeable future.

My thread is really a jab at all the fans that were so convinced that getting rid of Fulmer and having faith in Hamilton to make the right hire was the right thing to do. The mistake was believing Hamilton had the capacity to make a good hire.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Firing Fulmer without a plan in place was the beginning of the end for UT football in the foreseeable future.

My thread is really a jab at all the fans that were so convinced that getting rid of Fulmer and having faith in Hamilton to make the right hire was the right thing to do. The mistake was believing Hamilton had the capacity to make a good hire.
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There was a plan in place after Phil. Lane brought an excellent staff with him and at the time was a good pick up by Tennessee, him leaving like he did was unforseeable. The Dooley hire was a hasty decision to hold onto 1 recruiting class and that was not smart. Firing Fulmer was the right thing to do and that was not the "beginning of the end" because his laziness is what got the ball rolling with our problems before we have had the past several years.
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Volsfan895 said:
There was a plan in place after Phil. Lane brought an excellent staff with him and at the time was a good pick up by Tennessee, him leaving like he did was unforseeable. The Dooley hire was a hasty decision to hold onto 1 recruiting class and that was not smart. Firing Fulmer was the right thing to do and that was not the "beginning of the end" because his laziness is what got the ball rolling with our problems before we have had the past several years.
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Firing Fulmer the way it was done was stupid and a very bad move. As hard as you try, there is no way to spin it.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Firing Fulmer the way it was done was stupid and a very bad move. As hard as you try, there is no way to spin it.
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How was it stupid? other than giving him a golden parachute it was the right move. The game passed him up and he quit giving a damn about recruiting which resulted in us losing badly a lot.
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Volsfan895 said:
How was it stupid? other than giving him a golden parachute it was the right move. The game passed him up and he quit giving a damn about recruiting which resulted in us losing badly a lot.
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If you don't get it now, I can't explain it to you. I'm not advocating to you that he shouldn't have been gone, its how it was done and the timing. The point is that we are getting exactly what you and others wanted.......change. Unfortunately not in a good way.
 
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Fulmer giving half an effort would be better than the crap we're watching now... So if the option was Fulmer coming back, or staying with Dooley... Then by all means, bring Fulmer back!!
 
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Dooley is done in Knoxville. He might not coach November. The wheels are ready to come off.

I'll be very honest, I'm very dubious about any "acolyte of Saban" anymore. Kirby might be the real deal, but I can't get excited about another Saban yes-man. I hope Hart has his sights fixed higher.

Obviously, we should be prepared to take short-term accounting losses (thanks again Hambone) to retain Gruden. Short of Gruden though, who the hell is out there who has the name and record to a sure-fire success at Tennessee? We've got to have a real name to compete in recruiting as our rivals have a natural advantage.

So, to the point of the thread, we can't keep Dooley. If we can't get Gruden, do we bring back Fulmer? I think it absolutely has to be an option at this stage. Dooley can't stay, and I'm very reluctant to hire anyone unproven and anyone associated with Nick Saban.

(I think it will be hard to get Chief back because of the way he was treated. Thanks again, Hambone).
 
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Good Lord would people get over the 'bring Phil back' crap.. Talking about moving in the wrong direction.. It's not even an option... It aint happening..
 
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I say you give dooley one more year. 3 years isn't even a full recruiting class at a school. When lane left after a year that set our program back at least 2. As far as DC goes I don't think sunseri is bad, I just think going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 is going to take a while to get used to. Every poster on this forum thinks that we should beat every team every week or anybody and everybody associated with coaching should be fired on the spot. Anybody coming into this season shouldn't have expected better than an 8-4 record at best. Admittedly I thought one of those wins would be against miss state but it wasn't. Do I like what I see on the field? Of course not, but getting rid of a coach is just going to be another set back. Oh and on a sidenote, how justin hunter is #1 on the list of wr prospects is unfathomable to me. He drops way to many passes, and he is too scared of getting hit.
 
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If Fulmer was rehired today, it would be as big as Peyton announcing he is coming back for his senior year, to me.
 
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Idiocy abounds. Fulmer is old and complacent. You guys forget the losing streaks to Florida and Bama and the decline of the program started under his watch, right?
 
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