Bring back the Trash Can?

#27
#27
Only way I support a return is if it's for one game, the Bama game, and it's done in such a fashion to mock Butch Jones. I have no problem giving him an FU in such a way.


Not that I'm bitter or anything.
 
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Eastknox865 said:
The only reason it was seen as a gimmick is because the team was not good. When the team is actually creating turnovers and winning games it hypes up the team. But when your team is terrible its a gimmick. People worry about entirely to many things that they shouldn't. Had we went 10-2 with the best defense in the country it would have been seen as brilliant.
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I appreciate your point of view.

It’s a gimmick no matter what.

Gimmicks by winning coaches are viewed differently than gimmicks by coaches that don’t win.
 
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Eastknox865 said:
The only reason it was seen as a gimmick is because the team was not good. When the team is actually creating turnovers and winning games it hypes up the team. But when your team is terrible its a gimmick. People worry about entirely to many things that they shouldn't. Had we went 10-2 with the best defense in the country it would have been seen as brilliant.
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It would still be a gimmick. That's the copycat culture of college football. One program does something slightly original and nuanced and it inspires others to do something similar just for the purpose of looking modern and in touch with the millennial generation. Everything has to revolve around looking cool and fun for potential recruits. Everything is a sales job. Butch was slavish in this effort.
 
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FBtime said:
I do not think the problem of the trash can was the misunderstanding of it's meaning. It was a gimmick employed by a coach known mostly for corny gimmicks and cliches and ultimately was more fitting as a representation of the 2017 team and their coach.
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This^^^^^

People aren't so dense that the symbolism was lost on them. It's just a dumb idea because for the entire game there is a guy on the sidelines holding a freaking trashcan with YOUR OWN DAMN LOGOS AND TRADEMARKED COLORS SPLASHED ALL OVER IT.

The intended symbolism only logically kinda works for the brief and exceedingly rare moments when you force a turnover and a player "takes out the trash".

Until then everyone is wondering why some idiot is holding a Vols "team 121" trashcan up in the air.

And until then the only logical conclusion is that "Team 121 of the Vols is Trash"

It's like dressing in drag all year long so you can be an ironic princess on halloween.

See the problem there? You can spend a lot of time explaining a bad idea.

Or you can just steer clear of bad ideas gimmicks and confusing trash metaphors.

P.S. if anyone in the Tennessee AD had brought half a brain, and had actually brought it with them from Cinncinnati and Northwestern, perhaps they would have seen the flawed logic in the team 121 trash can, it could have been fixed simply by plastering the opponent's logo's and trademarked color schemes, rather than our own....then the whole dang ridiculous idea at least has real meaning. After all a fumble recovery or interception is THEIR trash, and should be associated with them.

See how easy that is? Or just avoid the whole "trashy" connotation altogether....i mean dang, its bad enough we already wear the universal color of trash men everywhere, let's not play to close to that stereotype.
 
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#32
I said northwestern, meant Kansas state. I've tried to block all things John Currie from my mind. It's working I guess cuz I must have momentarily erased the synapses that dealt with origins of that clown-faced dunderhead.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
I’ve seen the ball we use it has a Power T on the ball. Once you put the Ga Tech symbol on a ball, the ball becomes garbage.

Celebrate our good ply and throw out their garbage at the same time.
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Missed where Abernathy was using a GaTech football....where did you see that?
 
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What bothered me the most about the symbolism of the trash can is that turnovers created by the defense are far from garbage, they're gold...as in golden opportunities for the offense.
 
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KBVol said:
Missed where Abernathy was using a GaTech football....where did you see that?
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My bad. I thought it was a clip from a game last year where he got a turnover and it was their ball that he slam dunked into the garbage can.

Looks like I didn’t have a good understanding of the garbage can at all.

So what was he doing.

Edit: Upon further review, it was the Ga Tech game. Why he was slam dunking the ball in the turnover garbag can, I have no idea. Unless it was a turnover by Ga Tech. Maybe they were using our ball.
 
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That was definitely a travel.
 
#42
#42
Ironically enough, the best moment of last season was with the trash can on the sideline.(GT game)
 
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Eastknox865 said:
The only reason it was seen as a gimmick is because the team was not good. When the team is actually creating turnovers and winning games it hypes up the team. But when your team is terrible its a gimmick. People worry about entirely to many things that they shouldn't. Had we went 10-2 with the best defense in the country it would have been seen as brilliant.
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You nailed it. Remember, our players range from 18-22 years old. They are not old farts like many of us. These young men enjoy the comraderie and approval of their teammates, coaches, and fans.

The garbage can is embarrassing ONLY because our team sucked. You don't read anything about the absurdity of those stupid pads UGA players put on. Those a corny as can be, but that defense was elite. So it's cool.

Remember Fulmer and his "Moses Rod" that he carried around during the 98' season to take them to "the Promised Land"? Never has a hit piece or joke been told about that because he DID it! Had that team lost to SU, UF, AU, Arky, and another, then that stick would have been memorialized as stupid.
 
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I heard Pruitt brought the trash can back after he found some junk Butch left in his office. Most notably was 2 trophies, one was for 5 ⭐️ Hearts and the other was Champions of Life.
 
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livefaith said:
You nailed it. Remember, our players range from 18-22 years old. They are not old farts like many of us. These young men enjoy the comraderie and approval of their teammates, coaches, and fans.

The garbage can is embarrassing ONLY because our team sucked. You don't read anything about the absurdity of those stupid pads UGA players put on. Those a corny as can be, but that defense was elite. So it's cool.

Remember Fulmer and his "Moses Rod" that he carried around during the 98' season to take them to "the Promised Land"? Never has a hit piece or joke been told about that because he DID it! Had that team lost to SU, UF, AU, Arky, and another, then that stick would have been memorialized as stupid.
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Oh baloney. Bullhockey. Nuts to you. Phooey and scram.
That was a lesson in corny.
Now here's a lesson in cool.

1. The reason why roadwarrior shoulder pads are such an iconic symbol.

Because they are badazz. Probably one of the most badazz things in the history of badassery.

Deny all you want. But a short list of all the times those shoulder pads have been co-opted and the sheer proliferation of them throughout our culture and history is proof of that.

Gi Joe dreadnoks, wrestlings road warriors, the fallout video game series, the georgia bulldogs and fanbase, and many other movies, video games etc

It is straight post-apocalyptia canon. Sorry for your denial.

I was maybe 6 when I first saw the road warrior movie. My biggest takeaways was the shoulder pads. I made a custom pair for my son for Halloween when he was 11. Because one day, after watching fury road and the originals...he said.

"HEY Dad, you know what I wish I had? A pair of those road warrior shoulder pads"

Some things are just cool. Cultural appropriation is probably the best barometer for that. The true litmus test for cool.

Those spiky shoulder pads make the short list.

Now you list the cultural appropriations regarding cool trashcan imagery....
Oscar the grouch...garbage pail kids.
That's about it. Notice the embedded object lesson within?

It's straight up loser canon. That's the trash can connotation.
 
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