Brent Vinson

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I was impressed by the way Bent played at cb with just one week of practice at the position. I know he played in high school and a little in prep school but that is still impressive to get the coverages and everything that quickly. I think the addition of him to the secondary is go to be very big he already gives us more speed and with experience i think he can become very good. Even if he goes back to reciever I am just glad to see that they could get him out there he is to much of a talent to be sitting on the sideline. They need to start finding a way to get our other talented freshmen on the field.
 
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justingroves said:
His prep school coach said he'd be a first day pick in the draft at CB.
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Why did it take the coaching staff so long to realize this? I know we are weak at reciever, but the secondary positions weren't locked down in spring either. Shouldn't his coach's evaluation been looked at in the spring? Could he have been a starter on D all year? We will never know, but to me it looks like we have made another mistake evaluating and developing talent. At least it has seemingly been corrected. Better late than never I suppose.
 
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ledhed43 said:
Why did it take the coaching staff so long to realize this? I know we are weak at reciever, but the secondary positions weren't locked down in spring either. Shouldn't his coach's evaluation been looked at in the spring? Could he have been a starter on D all year? We will never know, but to me it looks like we have made another mistake evaluating and developing talent. At least it has seemingly been corrected. Better late than never I suppose.
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One of the biggest complaints with Fulmer. Why does it take him 3 games into the season, to figure out who should be the starter.

McClendon and Richards at guard, Vinson at CB, Coker at RB, etc. Why does it take another humiliating loss by Florida to give younger players an opportunity to play more?

Look around the league, it doesn't take Meyer or Spurrier, etc 3 games to figure out a way to get their strongest and fastest players on the field. How much faster is Vinson then the 2 corners UT started vs Cal and FL?

Everyone else in the league is fine turning the offense while Fulmer is making wholesale changes to who should be starting.
 
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ledhed43 said:
Why did it take the coaching staff so long to realize this? I know we are weak at reciever, but the secondary positions weren't locked down in spring either. Shouldn't his coach's evaluation been looked at in the spring? Could he have been a starter on D all year? We will never know, but to me it looks like we have made another mistake evaluating and developing talent. At least it has seemingly been corrected. Better late than never I suppose.
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It's only 4 games into his career. Late would be 4 games into his senior season. If there is one thing I think our coaching staff does a good job it's moving people to different positions.

I applaud the coaches for making a move so soon.
 
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JZVOL said:
It's only 4 games into his career. Late would be 4 games into his senior season. If there is one thing I think our coaching staff does a good job it's moving people to different positions.

I applaud the coaches for making a move so soon.
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They love moving guys to different positions. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. The thing is they were told he would be a better DB, and they moved him to WR. Then realized that he should be a DB and moved him there. So I am not sure you can call this a good job of moving him around.
 
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I was hoping he would be a more sure tackler but I guess being at wide receiver he didn't take part of spring tackling drills. But then again I'm not sure anyone else did either.
 
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ledhed43 said:
They love moving guys to different positions. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. The thing is they were told he would be a better DB, and they moved him to WR. Then realized that he should be a DB and moved him there. So I am not sure you can call this a good job of moving him around.
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No the prep school coach said he had just as much ability on O as he did on D.
 
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justingroves said:
No the prep school coach said he had just as much ability on O as he did on D.
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Maybe so. If that is the case then why didn't he play both in practice to see where he fit best? Why does it take getting beat by Fla. for Fulmer to realize changes need to be made? It just seems like Fulmer does this more than other coaches.
 
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ledhed43 said:
They love moving guys to different positions. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. The thing is they were told he would be a better DB, and they moved him to WR. Then realized that he should be a DB and moved him there. So I am not sure you can call this a good job of moving him around.
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Just off the top of my head, Fred Weary, Jermaine Copeland, Cedrick Wilson, Jon Wade, Leonard Little. They have plenty of misses too, it just seems like this is just searching for something else to criticize them with.


By a prep school coach. I would hope our coaches wouldn't let someone else tell them where to play someone.

Vinson not playing corner didn't cost us the Cal or Florida games.
 
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From what i saw vinson may become our best corner over the course of the year. He was giving cushion most of the night. But you could just tell this kid is meant to be a corner. Got to give fulmer and co some props for putting him where he belongs. Now leave him there. He will be all-sec before its over if he stays at corner. The guy has some skill.
 
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ledhed43 said:
They love moving guys to different positions. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. The thing is they were told he would be a better DB, and they moved him to WR. Then realized that he should be a DB and moved him there. So I am not sure you can call this a good job of moving him around.
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Nah, you just follow UT more closely than any other teams around.
 
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Let see what he does versus Georgia. Not discrediting Arky State, but they are Arky State and not Ga, FL, etc
 
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Fulmer said something to the effect that Vinson really wanted to play offense but was now happy just to get on the field. I read that to mean that they probably made some type of commitment to try him on offense first.

If Rogan or someone can replace Hefney, that secondary is going to be fun to watch for the next 2 or 3 years.
 
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sjt18 said:
Fulmer said something to the effect that Vinson really wanted to play offense but was now happy just to get on the field. I read that to mean that they probably made some type of commitment to try him on offense first.

If Rogan or someone can replace Hefney, that secondary is going to be fun to watch for the next 2 or 3 years.
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Correct. Vinson wanted to play receiver first.

I really like Vinson at Corner and Berry at SS. Both seem like they can develope into ballhawks once the game slows down for them a little, both have elite speed, and both have good size. Berry also is very good at cleaning up his teammates messes. If the corner or LB gets beat, then it seems like he is always there to put a lick on the ball carrier.
 
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oklavol said:
Look around the league, it doesn't take Meyer or Spurrier, etc 3 games to figure out a way to get their strongest and fastest players on the field.
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Spurrier still hasn't settled on a starting QB and this week he will be starting new WRs, so his staff may not have gotten it right either.

I agree we struggle evaluating talent, but Spurrier is also having similar issues this year.
 
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SCSmokey said:
Spurrier still hasn't settled on a starting QB and this week he will be starting new WRs, so his staff may not have gotten it right either.

I agree we struggle evaluating talent, but Spurrier is also having similar issues this year.
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yea but Spurrier has no where near the talent that we have so his problem is not really evaluating the talent but rather trying to find it... CPF has the talent but he just cant see it i guess, but i bet if Spurrier had our talent that he would have no problem evaluating the guys who should be on the field
 
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True. If Spurrier was at UT with the current talent, UT would be ranked in the top 10 and be the favorite to win the East.
 
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Somehow a Vinson thread turned into a another Spurrier love fest.

As for Vinson becoming a good corner, that may be the case, but he has a looooooong way to go. His play last week was suspect. I' glad to see different faces on the field, but I'm not ready to crown him yet.
 
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oklavol said:
True. If Spurrier was at UT with the current talent, UT would be ranked in the top 10 and be the favorite to win the East.
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Wow, did not know that Spurrier would be that much of a help with our defensive problems. Our offense/offensive coach is not keeping up from being a Top 10 team. Spurrier would not have us in the Top 10.
 
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therickbol said:
Wow, did not know that Spurrier would be that much of a help with our defensive problems. Our offense/offensive coach is not keeping up from being a Top 10 team. Spurrier would not have us in the Top 10.
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Do you think SC has more talent then UT right now? I don't. Who's ranked in the top 25 and who isn't?
 
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UT does have more talent. Does that mean he would have UT in the Top 10? And, USC is 'ranked' in the Top 25. Are they a Top 25 team? Highly unlikely. We will find out as the season plays out. Maybe they will prove they deserve that ranking. We'll see.
 
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