Breakdown Of Arrest / Citations

#177
#177
All I can say from an objective stance is- If this were UGA/FSU/AL/etc.. We would be calling out the entire school system for thugery and here to for deem them as winners because they don't bring in quality kids. It happened, we'll deal with it and move on.
 
#178
#178
Is this getting any traction outside of Knoxville and maybe Nashville. It is a non-story in the ATL.
 
#180
#180
I'm on the West Coast and I've heard nothing and seen nothing mentioned on ESPN or Fox Sports.
 
#183
#183
JCHateSteve said:
It is pretty silly. Even the cops where I live think so. If you are about to be deployed and get pulled over drunk, just show them your orders. They will escort you home and thank you for your service in most cases. I've seen it a number times before friends got deployed and were under 21. I can't speak for how they handle it Knoxville though.
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Erik Ainge has told a story of being pulled over on I-40 while drunk as a player at UT and the officer called a cab for him while one of his friends came and got his car... I have a feeling that maybe our guys gave the cops some lip service...Anyway you slice it this is not a big deal however.
 
#185
#185
Yes, if innocent young men (and now young women) are old enough to be sent off to suffer the horrors of war, then they are certainly old enough to enjoy a responsible drink if they so choose, PERIOD--not an opinion, but a fact.

SO WHAT if people are tired of hearing that! It doesn't make it any less true.

Eighteen is the legal drinking age in most countries!

The federal government that sends boys off to foreign lands to be maimed and killed is the same federal government that bullied most of the states into passing laws that raised the legal drinking age to 21. As one who served my country, the tyranny and hypocrisy of it makes me so angry to this day I can taste it.

It's a sensitive issue because it was Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) that ostensibly successfully lobbied the government into adopting the policy and pushing it on the states through the threat of lost highway dollars. Most people, after all, are afraid of going up against an angry mother only to be shouted down. And while it is certainly a tragedy when any parent loses a child to a drunk driver, the answer IS NOT to take away the freedoms of the many in order to protect us from the irresponsiblity of a few--as big brother government often does.

There are much better solutions, both preventive and punitive.

Consequently, I do not sympathize with the Knox County sheriff's department for enforcing an unjust law and for piling on charges after that---especially since NO ONE was driving in the first place and the only thing potentially harming (inconveniencing) others was the loud music.
 
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#186
#186
1 nobody was driving
2 nobody got hurt
3 no women were impregnated( I guess )
4 nobody would of have heard about it,if the dumb asses had kept the noise down after the police warning
5 overall not much of a big thing at all


I think CBJ and company will do some disciplinary action just for the media and dumb ass fans that think the world is falling apart
 
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Wylo said:
yeah, heaven forbid the police actually enforce the law.
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Yes, because said police have never turned their head when it involved a cute coed or connected individual. Police routinely make judgement calls in situations like this, and surprise, more often than not, when it involves UT players, they rarely turn their heads. This has been going on for decades now.
 
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Weezer said:
Yes, because said police have never turned their head when it involved a cute coed or connected individual. Police routinely make judgement calls in situations like this, and surprise, more often than not, when it involves UT players, they rarely turn their heads. This has been going on for decades now.
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Seems to me that what got them in trouble more than anything was an inability to shut up when needed. I think the players escalated the situation out of stupidity.
 
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#193
MedicT said:
Seems to me that what got them in trouble more than anything was an inability to shut up when needed. I think the players escalated the situation out of stupidity.
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I think most people have known cops in their lives. Let's face it, some are actually cool guys, just looking to keep the peace. And some are douchers on a severe ego trip just looking for an excuse to use their "authority". I wasn't there, so I can't speak as to the cops who responded to this call, but many years ago, I had cop friends tell me there were cops who liked to bust the players' balls. Do I think that has changed over the years? No, I don't. From what I've read and heard, I'd lean toward some of these cops being douchers that wanted to force the situation, and the other cops followed along because you have to project a solid front. Simply put, I think arrests could have pretty much been avoided and citations limited to the most severe cases. But that's JMO. As I said, I wasn't there to have a firsthand account. I'm going strictly off of hearsay.
 
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smyborovol said:
For thinking they should be punished? GO SCREW YOURSELF! Your a fool for thinking its ok! I'm not saying the kids should be kicked off the team but there are some people rationalizing these actions by saying they are kids that's f`d up.
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Okay. If they are not kids, then they should not be charged with underage drinking. Hows that for rationalizing.
Party on.
 
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molsen81 said:
I'm not defending these guys but back when I was on campus (2001 - 2004), there would be parties like this with student athletes participating in underage drinking. The police would drive by and ignore whatever they assumed was going on (sometimes even taking pictures with the drunks). The few times an arrest was made it was to make a statement or respond to a complaint. I'm talking like maybe arresting 2 - 3 people but this many arrests is a little overboard. I specifically remember a popular female athlete (name withheld) who was in a similar situation and the police walked away. I'm sure some of my fellow alums on here have similar stories. Just my 2 cents.
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I was there from 2001 - 2005 (5 years baby!) and I partied my freshman year with the swim team at Gibbs and football players were running wild and having a great time...
The fact only UT players were in trouble and non-athletes didn't even get citations is very fishy...
 
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LazhilUT said:
I was there from 2001 - 2005 (5 years baby!) and I partied my freshman year with the swim team at Gibbs and football players were running wild and having a great time...
The fact only UT players were in trouble and non-athletes didn't even get citations is very fishy...
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Read the story, they were warned to turn off the loud music which they did initially, but turned it back up soon afterwards. Most Police officers don't like to be ignored and disrespected. If the players had followed the orders of the police this incident never happens. I am not upset about the underage drinking, and I'm glad the police did not find evidence of marijuana use/possession. But, disrespecting the authority of the police is upsetting. I am hopeful that CBJ will use this as a teaching point and the entire team will learn from their transgressions.
 
#198
#198
Here is my history. I'm 33 years old now and don't drink or smoke cigarettes anymore. But I was a typical youngster at one time too.....


ITSGR82BATNVOL said:
I did not see this posted, but could have missed it. Just thought most on VN would like to know who all was arrested or cited if they didn't already know.

Current players

Arrested

LB A.J. Johnson: providing alcohol to underage persons; resisting arrest - when I was 21, most of my friends were still just under 21. We had been drinking under the age of 21 together. After I was "legal", I admit to purchasing alcohol that was consumed by under 21 year old friends. Sue me.

DT Danny O’Brien: underage consumption of alcohol; resisting arrest; false impersonation - never really scuffled with cops but I dipped out and ran and out smarted them a time or two. I've made many failed attempts at drunk impersonations though.....

Cited

LB Curtis Maggitt: providing alcohol to underage persons - again I am honest enough to admit I have done this. I was his age though when I did it.

LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin: providing alcohol to underage persons - I will admit I have in my life bought beer and had buddies drink on it. I didn't ID them either....

LB Jakob Johnson: providing alcohol to underage persons - been there done this.....

OL Dontavius Blair: underage drinking - I tasted my first beer at age 5. I'm guilty.

DL Dimarya Mixon: underage drinking - I tasted my first beer at age 5. I'm guilty.

CB Justin Coleman: underage drinking - I drank beer in high school.

DL Malik Brown: underage drinking - I drank beer in high school.

Former players

Arrested

Dontavis Sapp: providing alcohol to underage persons; resisting arrest - will play NFL football. He's just enjoying the last of the good ol days...

Isaac Mobley: underage drinking - don't judge, you did too...

Cited

Daniel Sola: underage drinking. - don't judge, you did too.
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Meanwhile, there were college age kids consuming alcoholic beverages.....
 
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TNinOR said:
Yes, if innocent young men (and now young women) are old enough to be sent off to suffer the horrors of war, then they are certainly old enough to enjoy a responsible drink if they so choose, PERIOD--not an opinion, but a fact.

SO WHAT if people are tired of hearing that! It doesn't make it any less true.

Eighteen is the legal drinking age in most countries!

The federal government that sends boys off to foreign lands to be maimed and killed is the same federal government that bullied most of the states into passing laws that raised the legal drinking age to 21. As one who served my country, the tyranny and hypocrisy of it makes me so angry to this day I can taste it.

It's a sensitive issue because it was Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) that ostensibly successfully lobbied the government into adopting the policy and pushing it on the states through the threat of lost highway dollars. Most people, after all, are afraid of going up against an angry mother only to be shouted down. And while it is certainly a tragedy when any parent loses a child to a drunk driver, the answer IS NOT to take away the freedoms of the many in order to protect us from the irresponsiblity of a few--as big brother government often does.

There are much better solutions, both preventive and punitive.

Consequently, I do not sympathize with the Knox County sheriff's department for enforcing an unjust law and for piling on charges after that---especially since NO ONE was driving in the first place and the only thing potentially harming (inconveniencing) others was the loud music.
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Good post.

What about our armed forces having to pay federal income taxes on their federal wages? They dont get paid much to begin with...why take some of it back? Are they somehow paying for their own wages? Crazy.
 
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