Bray's post practice comments

[YankeeVol]

There are problems with the coaching. It isn't effort in practice.

Bray is Bray's problem. He beats up on weak competition... plays it cool... then chokes against good competition when the game is on the line.

Yea man! Don't worry that the defense gives up 40+ or anything.

 

[flip999]

Only performs well when he wants to. QUOTE] This is the funniest thing i have read. You are saying he does not want to perform well all the time? You have to be out of your mind. Regardless of what you think of him, he goes out to win every game.

 

[PineyBluff Vol]

Bray mentioned the team had been practicing better the last week or so. When asked why that was, he answered by saying, "I don't know. I guess because we wanted to."
This is a problem, and this falls on the coaches. The coaches should demand 100% effort, and if you don't, you don't play!
If you can't coach that way maybe you shouldn't coach! Do you think this crap flies at alabama? I highly doubt it!

Sounds like a pretty straight forward answer to me!

 

[SlipKidVol]

Bray is the least of this teams problems

 

[gnm53108]

Bray mentioned the team had been practicing better the last week or so. When asked why that was, he answered by saying, "I don't know. I guess because we wanted to."
This is a problem, and this falls on the coaches. The coaches should demand 100% effort, and if you don't, you don't play!
If you can't coach that way maybe you shouldn't coach! Do you think this crap flies at alabama? I highly doubt it!

:lolabove:

Love it.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Bray is not as good as hyped up to be.
Terrible attitude. Doesn't like to get hit. Not mobile. Stares down his receiver every play. Can't win when it counts. Can't excel against SEC defenses. Only performs well when he wants to.
Someone please disagree and point out where I am wrong. He's been surrounded by weapons and still manages to underachieve. I'm sorry, I forgot about the stellar D of Troy.
Yeah, he has height and arm strength.. But it takes a lot more than that to excel in the NFL.
He could easily be the 2013 Ryan Leaf of the draft.

When people like you are determined, and I do mean determined to find fault, they will even if none is there.

Until the Troy game, our all-star receivers kept dropping passes that were all but kissed and lain gently in their laps. But this is Bray's fault in the logic you practice.

In the Georgia game, with his receivers covered and having nowhere to go, with the pocket collapsed around him, he tried to run through an opening and got the ball knocked out of his hands. That's Bray's fault too following your logic. Actually, I semi agree as he should have thrown the ball away. BUT I no longer recall what down it was, so maybe he no other option but to run.

In The Florida, Ga, MS St,.and Ala. games especially, except for Zach Rogers our receivers kept dropping balls, failing to jump and compete for thrown balls, and so on. But this is Bray's fault according to you. I'm sure by your count he's responsible for WWI and WWII, and the Hale-Bopp collisions with Jupiter as well.

The guy puts points on the board but his defense can't make it stand must be his fault too even though he doesn't play on the defense unit.

Now, as for his attitude, he like other young whelps isn't a seasoned adult yet and won't be until life experiences accumulate enough of that stuff we call "experience". That was true for your Vol-god, Peyton Manning who pulled down his pants and ass-flashed a female trainer. What else he did that wasn't made public we can only imagine. But you will of course sit on your self-appointed throne of righteous judgment and condemn Bray to 14 death sentences. And all because he farted and it smelled like a fart instead of Drakkar cologne. Carry on, son.

 

[hillsborovol]

When people like you are determined, and I do mean determined to find fault, they will even if none is there.

Until the Troy game, our all-star receivers kept dropping passes that were all but kissed and lain gently in their laps. But this is Bray's fault in the logic you practice.

In the Georgia game, with his receivers covered and having nowhere to go, with the pocket collapsed around him, he tried to run through an opening and got the ball knocked out of his hands. That's Bray's fault too following your logic. Actually, I semi agree as he should have thrown the ball away. BUT I no longer recall what down it was, so maybe he no other option but to run.

In The Florida, Ga, MS St,.and Ala. games especially, except for Zach Rogers our receivers kept dropping balls, failing to jump and compete for thrown balls, and so on. But this is Bray's fault according to you. I'm sure by your count he's responsible for WWI and WWII, and the Hale-Bopp collisions with Jupiter as well.

The guy puts points on the board but his defense can't make it stand must be his fault too even though he doesn't play on the defense unit.

Now, as for his attitude, he like other young whelps isn't a seasoned adult yet and won't be until life experiences accumulate enough of that stuff we call "experience". That was true for your Vol-god, Peyton Manning who pulled down his pants and ass-flashed a female trainer. What else he did that wasn't made public we can only imagine. But you will of course sit on your self-appointed throne of righteous judgment and condemn Bray to 14 death sentences. And all because he farted and it smelled like a fart instead of Drakkar cologne. Carry on, son.

That is one of the best posts I've seen on here in a long, long, time. Thank you for adding perspective to this situation.

 

[SolidRockGolf]

So it's your assertion that when a 20 yr old answers a reporter's question with a smart ass answer, that it's the coach's fault...

Some of you need to back away from the computer and go get a job...and a life

Glad someone posted it

 

[1982Alum]

I just wish Bray would go away. Let's hope he chooses to go pro early. Let the NFL give him the experioence. We can still have a good team without him.

 

[jeffmcflurry27]

Bray goes score for score against weak competition ..
Bray wines and quits against good competition.. Fact!

No, I couldn't hold his jock strap.. Without slapping him in the face with it .

It must be a sad existance, having to critisize 20 year olds just beause your life didn't turn out the way you wanted it to.

 

[volbeast33]

If effort in practice isn't a concen, then why do we hear the coaches constantly tell the media that the wide outs impaticular need to learn to run their routes at 100% effort every time like Zach Rogers does. When I hear this along with brays comments, I can't help but question our effort.

BC WRs at all levels have a tendency to not run all out if they are a decoy wr and not likely to get the ball....the coaches were saying ZROD runs the same way all the time.

 

[Dekram]

What exactly are you laughing about?

I think hes laughing at Bray being sucessful in the NFL.

Depnds on what you mean by cusessful. If you mean making a team as a second or third teamer then sure. He is not a leader and it takes that in the NFL.

 

[DazzleVol]

Challenge for all the Bray Haters.

Please select a QB you like that played at Tennessee and the year of your choice. Now, assume that the defense gives up the number of points that they have this year against the good teams. Assign those points to the teams that QB/Team/Year played, and tell me what your QB of choice's record was for that season.

Excluding only Georgia State and Akron, which I assume everyone agrees aren't the good teams, Tennessee is allowing 40 points per game.

Just for example, the 1997 Peyton-led Tennessee Vols would have won 3 games while losing 10 that year if you give their opponent 40 points.

What's tater brays #'s against good defenses(sec)? Wins against good defenses(sec)? Records against defenses with a pulse???

When Bray is the starter and the D gives up LESS than 30 .. UT is 11 and 2

 

[armyvol31]

I just wish Bray would go away. Let's hope he chooses to go pro early. Let the NFL give him the experioence. We can still have a good team without him.

Did you watch last year's team and still agree we are a better team without him? With last year's defense we are maybe a 2 loss team this year. The problem isn't with Bray you can't ask a QB to get you 40+ points a game every game to win every time.

 

[jps2194]

I think hes laughing at Bray being sucessful in the NFL.

Depnds on what you mean by cusessful. If you mean making a team as a second or third teamer then sure. He is not a leader and it takes that in the NFL.

He probably won't play for a couple of years, but I could see him starting before his NFL tenure is over. I equate him to Phillip Rivers in terms of attitude.

 

[jps2194]

I just wish Bray would go away. Let's hope he chooses to go pro early. Let the NFL give him the experioence. We can still have a good team without him.

Unbelievable. His attitude is questionable at times, but he is an awesome QB. If he had a defense that was average, he would make far fewer mistakes because he feels he has to score on every possession now or we will lose. That leads to him taking chances he shouldn't. He is one fo the better QB's in the league. If he played for Alabama, he would be regarded as the best in the country.

 

[huskyvol]

I just wish Bray would go away. Let's hope he chooses to go pro early. Let the NFL give him the experioence. We can still have a good team without him.

I don't think we beat NC State or Troy without him, and he gave us a legit shot at winning the UGA and USCjr game. The defense is not helping his attitude. I'd be pretty ticked too if I was putting up 30+ points every game and still losing.

 

[Titan&Volfan4life]

I think Bray has all the talent in the world.

At times he seems unstopable.

Many passes were dropped this season at the worst of times and all of that wasn't Brays fault but some of them were when the pass was a little behind them.

THINK...Last year our Defense was ranked 28th in the country and that's not a pathetic D like we have this year while learning the new 3-4 D BUT the simply FACT is that Bray is still 0-15 against top SEC rivals and when we had a D ranked 28th nationally.

Talent is 1 thing but there's lots more to being a great QB in the SEC.

Bray still isn't mature and that's well proven with his off the field problems like throwing beer bottles at cars.

Bray still can't read the D well and make good checkoffs at the line.

Bray does still stare down his WR's alot more than he should as a Junior with as much real game experience as he has.

Bray has the talent and potential to become the best QB that Tennessee has ever had but what he becomes is all on him and how hard he works and how badly he wants to become the best QB in the SEC and his attitude must change because ONLY Bray controls what Bray will become.

Nobody is perfect but some kids simply work harder and have the attitude to never quit, never give up and refuse to lose and other kids just don't have the same attitude or work ethics.

If Bray stays for his Senior year and gets Hunter and Patterson to do the same and they all decide to get their attitudes right and put in the extra work and become demanding Leaders to get all our other Vols to do the same then we'll kick most everyones butts next season.

Then I believe we could actually see Bray, Hunter and Patterson get drafted into the NFL all in the top 15 spots.

Proven Winners normally get drafted higher and 1 more year at Tennessee could see all 3 of them drafted higher than most would expect.

Like Foster made few fumbles they came at the worst possible times and that's why many on here get down on him.....Many of the dropped passes this season also came at the worst possible times and stopped drives that we might have gone down and scored on.

It's also a fact that if our new 3-4 Defense would have come together much faster that we would only be a 1 or 2 loss team right now BUT even in the NFL it takes 2 years to learn everything and get the 3-4 D running well because it's so complicated but when it all comes together then you can see a Defence like Bama and Notre Dame have going and the last time I loked both of those teams are doing well and ranked pretty high.

We're actually MUCH closer to being a top SEC team and ranked in the top 15 or higher than our record shows.

Just 3 good D stops and we Win against Florida.

Just 2 good D stops and we Win against MSU.

Just 2 good D stops and we Win against UGA.

Just 2 good D stops and we Win against USCe.

THINK people...That's only 9 plays this season and we could be a top 10 team and would have already WON the SEC East Title and would be trying to figure out how to beat alaBubba in the SEC Championship game.

Yes, Bray made some mistakes and bad plays but so does every QB in the game on every team BUT this year it's our Defense more than anything that needs to get fixed just like last season our running game was horrid but CDD got that fixed and nobody would have believed that it would take this long for our D to have been learned and performed much better than we've seen.

Close never counts in the Win/Loss record but knowing that just 9 plays against our best SEC rivals that are highly ranked could have made the difference is what drives me crazy.

9 big plays lost us 4 top SEC games.

Bray still has lots to learn in several areas but I can't blame him for the 5 losses against top ranked teams.

Fumble at MSU stopped us and many forget that.

At times our D stood strong and made great plays and at other times they didn't shift correctly when the O made shifts so we got caught out of position and 9 BIG plays lost us 4 SEC games against top ranked teams.

Even is AD Hart and the big $$$ boosters are forced to give CDD and CSS another year I think our Defense will get fixed just as our running game got fixed and then I'll bet money that Tennessee Wins the SEC East next season and will give Bama a really tough game too.

We're so very close to being a top 10 team that it just makes me sick to know that only 9 PLAYS on our D could have made the difference.

VFL...GBO!!!

 

[lostsheep]

Challenge for all the Bray Haters.

Please select a QB you like that played at Tennessee and the year of your choice. Now, assume that the defense gives up the number of points that they have this year against the good teams. Assign those points to the teams that QB/Team/Year played, and tell me what your QB of choice's record was for that season.

Excluding only Georgia State and Akron, which I assume everyone agrees aren't the good teams, Tennessee is allowing 40 points per game.

Just for example, the 1997 Peyton-led Tennessee Vols would have won 3 games while losing 10 that year if you give their opponent 40 points.

Excellent point, IMO.

It wasn't that long ago that we were suffering through Crompton's struggles, & 'Pick'-Nick Stephens & Matt Simms as QB's. Now that we have a guy with some skills, we throw him under the bus because we don't like his personality??

 

[photovol]

I think Bray has all the talent in the world.

At times he seems unstopable.

Many passes were dropped this season at the worst of times and all of that wasn't Brays fault but some of them were when the pass was a little behind them.

THINK...Last year our Defense was ranked 28th in the country and that's not a pathetic D like we have this year while learning the new 3-4 D BUT the simply FACT is that Bray is still 0-15 against top SEC rivals and when we had a D ranked 28th nationally.

Talent is 1 thing but there's lots more to being a great QB in the SEC.

Bray still isn't mature and that's well proven with his off the field problems like throwing beer bottles at cars.

Bray still can't read the D well and make good checkoffs at the line.

Bray does still stare down his WR's alot more than he should as a Junior with as much real game experience as he has.

Bray has the talent and potential to become the best QB that Tennessee has ever had but what he becomes is all on him and how hard he works and how badly he wants to become the best QB in the SEC and his attitude must change because ONLY Bray controls what Bray will become.

Nobody is perfect but some kids simply work harder and have the attitude to never quit, never give up and refuse to lose and other kids just don't have the same attitude or work ethics.

If Bray stays for his Senior year and gets Hunter and Patterson to do the same and they all decide to get their attitudes right and put in the extra work and become demanding Leaders to get all our other Vols to do the same then we'll kick most everyones butts next season.

Then I believe we could actually see Bray, Hunter and Patterson get drafted into the NFL all in the top 15 spots.

Proven Winners normally get drafted higher and 1 more year at Tennessee could see all 3 of them drafted higher than most would expect.

Like Foster made few fumbles they came at the worst possible times and that's why many on here get down on him.....Many of the dropped passes this season also came at the worst possible times and stopped drives that we might have gone down and scored on.

It's also a fact that if our new 3-4 Defense would have come together much faster that we would only be a 1 or 2 loss team right now BUT even in the NFL it takes 2 years to learn everything and get the 3-4 D running well because it's so complicated but when it all comes together then you can see a Defence like Bama and Notre Dame have going and the last time I loked both of those teams are doing well and ranked pretty high.

We're actually MUCH closer to being a top SEC team and ranked in the top 15 or higher than our record shows.

Just 3 good D stops and we Win against Florida.

Just 2 good D stops and we Win against MSU.

Just 2 good D stops and we Win against UGA.

Just 2 good D stops and we Win against USCe.

THINK people...That's only 9 plays this season and we could be a top 10 team and would have already WON the SEC East Title and would be trying to figure out how to beat alaBubba in the SEC Championship game.

Yes, Bray made some mistakes and bad plays but so does every QB in the game on every team BUT this year it's our Defense more than anything that needs to get fixed just like last season our running game was horrid but CDD got that fixed and nobody would have believed that it would take this long for our D to have been learned and performed much better than we've seen.

Close never counts in the Win/Loss record but knowing that just 9 plays against our best SEC rivals that are highly ranked could have made the difference is what drives me crazy.

9 big plays lost us 4 top SEC games.

Bray still has lots to learn in several areas but I can't blame him for the 5 losses against top ranked teams.

Fumble at MSU stopped us and many forget that.

At times our D stood strong and made great plays and at other times they didn't shift correctly when the O made shifts so we got caught out of position and 9 BIG plays lost us 4 SEC games against top ranked teams.

Even is AD Hart and the big $$$ boosters are forced to give CDD and CSS another year I think our Defense will get fixed just as our running game got fixed and then I'll bet money that Tennessee Wins the SEC East next season and will give Bama a really tough game too.

We're so very close to being a top 10 team that it just makes me sick to know that only 9 PLAYS on our D could have made the difference.

VFL...GBO!!!

I like this prediction: Vols win SEC east in 2013
My God I like your optimism....does Dooley receive SEC coach of the Year?

 

[photovol]

Gosh we have a bunch of dumb fans.

Really, if by some chance...UT ever becomes relevent again there won't be much to talk about...will there?

 

[1982Alum]

Did you watch last year's team and still agree we are a better team without him? With last year's defense we are maybe a 2 loss team this year. The problem isn't with Bray you can't ask a QB to get you 40+ points a game every game to win every time.

Yes i watched last year's team. It was ugly. We would be better next year w/o Bray than we were last year w/o Bray. Better OL play. Better WRs (even missing CP and JH). Better running game.

i never said Bray was talent less. He has a strong arm and throws the ball very well. His ability to make decisions on the field is limited. He doesn't go to his 2nd or 3rd receiver well. He can't move in the pocket. My issue with him is as a person. He is a punk and a poor representative of this university. I would prefer he just go pro next year.

 

[tmodaniel]

Bray mentioned the team had been practicing better the last week or so. When asked why that was, he answered by saying, "I don't know. I guess because we wanted to."
This is a problem, and this falls on the coaches. The coaches should demand 100% effort, and if you don't, you don't play!
If you can't coach that way maybe you shouldn't coach! Do you think this crap flies at alabama? I highly doubt it!

Who do you coach for? ......

 

[Tarkus]

Bray is not as good as hyped up to be.
Terrible attitude. Doesn't like to get hit. Not mobile. Stares down his receiver every play. Can't win when it counts. Can't excel against SEC defenses. Only performs well when he wants to.
Someone please disagree and point out where I am wrong. He's been surrounded by weapons and still manages to underachieve. I'm sorry, I forgot about the stellar D of Troy.
Yeah, he has height and arm strength.. But it takes a lot more than that to excel in the NFL.
He could easily be the 2013 Ryan Leaf of the draft.

Bray's offense scored the most points that any team has scored against fla. this year, also the most against ga. He put up 35 against usc and you think we didn't win those games because of Bray? That's idiotic! Oh, and by the way, which quarterback likes to get hit. That's always been one of the dumbest statements said about quarterbacks," he doesn't like to get hit". No kidding! How is the point totals I just brought up an underachievement?

 

[TucsonVol]

Bray mentioned the team had been practicing better the last week or so. When asked why that was, he answered by saying, "I don't know. I guess because we wanted to."
This is a problem, and this falls on the coaches. The coaches should demand 100% effort, and if you don't, you don't play!
If you can't coach that way maybe you shouldn't coach! Do you think this crap flies at alabama? I highly doubt it!

First and foremost, it sounds like the coaches did not set their expectations high enough. There should always be good and bad consequences for appropriate and inappropriate behaviors.