#BoycottNRA

[1972 Grad]

How many of the school shooters were on mind altering drugs, and how many had a father in the home at the time of the shooting?

I just read that Cruz refused the mental health help that he was forced to receive while a minor. He turned 18, and told them to stick it.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

lulz

Can we all get on the same page please?

How is it the NRA is power enough to be directly responsible for people shooting other people, but also weak enough to be destroyed by an airline canceling a discount?

 

[hog88]

Or, the status quo is maintained.

Again, which airport are they moving to?

They're not moving. Worst case for Delta is they arrange as much fuel possible elsewhere, limiting what they buy in GA.

 

[1972 Grad]

Can we all get on the same page please?

How is it the NRA is power enough to be directly responsible for people shooting other people, but also weak enough to be destroyed by an airline canceling a discount?

They brainwash the ignoramuses that buy guns.

 

[hog88]

IDK just like you don't know the dynamics of Delta's agreement with Georgia to begin with. Do you? Of course not. Delta has the leverage is the point. Not the point on which state could give them the best unknowable deal at the exact airport. You seem to completely miss the only point I have tried to make to create a false one. It's what you do.

The only one threatening to screw with the status quo is the Ga grand stander.

I think you are afraid of Delta exposing the NRA's lack of power.

The NRA has no power in this situation.

 

[Mick]

So the point that Delta is paying 14% more in fuel tax in GA means?

That happens in big business everyday. This is not some exception because of the situation.

First Delta has $40 million a year option. That is how much they could save in state fuel tax alone by moving. Throw in some land, and hangers, who know what could happen.

 

[Mick]

They're not moving. Worst case for Delta is they arrange as much fuel possible elsewhere, limiting what they buy in GA.

I don't think they will move either but I do know they will not hold out the $40 mil tax break to find out.

 

[hog88]

First Delta has $40 million a year option. That is how much they could save in state fuel tax alone by moving. Throw in some land, and hangers, who know what could happen.

Delta isn't moving Mick. It's not happening because it would be a terrible business decision when they could just change fueling routines.

 

[tumscalcium]

First Delta has $40 million a year option. That is how much they could save in state fuel tax alone by moving. Throw in some land, and hangers, who know what could happen.

By “some” you mean a mother******* ***load.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Delta isn't moving Mick. It's not happening because it would be a terrible business decision when they could just change fueling routines.

Which in itself would cost millions.

 

[Squints]

First Delta has $40 million a year option. That is how much they could save in state fuel tax alone by moving. Throw in some land, and hangers, who know what could happen.

You give the perception that this move would be similar to throwing your junk in a uhaul truck and moving two blocks down the road.

You clearly do not understand the economic and logistical burdens required for such a move.

 

[hndog609]

You clearly do not understand the economic and logistical burdens required for such a move.

For the sake of his argument he has no reason to care whatsoever.

 

[BeecherVol]

First Delta has $40 million a year option. That is how much they could save in state fuel tax alone by moving. Throw in some land, and hangers, who know what could happen.

So it took a school shooting in another state for Delta to realize they are losing 40 mil a year to state fuel taxes?

Sounds like a solid company.

 

[Mick]

You all sure have some wadded panties. Help each other out with your own wedgies.

 

[Obsessed]

You all sure have some wadded panties. Help each other out with your own wedgies.

Per dnc lawyers, their panties being in wads is protected by the 1st Amendment.

 

[Squints]

You all sure have some wadded panties. Help each other out with your own wedgies.

You could help yours by not wearing thongs.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Why? 1% fuel tax compared to 15%. What is your basis for this claim?

The irony here. A liberal talking about evil taxation.

The city of Atlanta has been gouging Delta for years on fuel There is nothing new here. We haven't left for years and we certainly won't go to NY over $40 million. (If I were a Georgia politician, I wouldn't count on any discounts going forward though - jmho, I don't speak for the company) It (the gouging) was a player in Delta's decision to buy their own refinery a few years back. (which has been very interesting to say the least) Just to put this in a little perspective, Delta Air Lines burns more fuel than the entire country of Denmark.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

They're not moving. Worst case for Delta is they arrange as much fuel possible elsewhere, limiting what they buy in GA.

We already do. It's called 'tankering'. We carry more fuel than needed from outstations that have cheaper fuel into other stations in order to buy less at the hub. We have a whole division that monitors this.

Here's a real interesting story I heard about some time ago. In Hawa'ii there is basically one fuel depot that all the airlines buy from. So the price is what it is, and everybody pays it. Delta now rents an oil tanker and buys oil in (I believe) Singapore and tankers that oil to Hawa'ii, and then the ship continues on to the west coast somewhere. Empty. Saved us a ton on fuel cost in Hawa'ii.

But what is also interesting is the cause and effect of our refinery. It has actually lowered the price of jet fuel on the east coast for ALL the airlines because of our pricing power and seat at the crude table.

One last thing. When Hurricane Sandy hit the northeast, Delta's refinery was the only source of gasoline to New York for a few days because we stayed online. Pretty cool if you ask me.

 

[Mick]

The irony here. A liberal talking about evil taxation.

The city of Atlanta has been gouging Delta for years on fuel There is nothing new here. We haven't left for years and we certainly won't go to NY over $40 million. (If I were a Georgia politician, I wouldn't count on any discounts going forward though - jmho, I don't speak for the company) It (the gouging) was a player in Delta's decision to buy their own refinery a few years back. (which has been very interesting to say the least) Just to put this in a little perspective, Delta Air Lines burns more fuel than the entire country of Denmark.

I'm not talking about "evil taxation", I'm talking about leverage. Good information to point out about the refinery. Where is that Philly at 3%?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

First Delta has $40 million a year option. That is how much they could save in state fuel tax alone by moving. Throw in some land, and hangers, who know what could happen.

As my widget brother (he'll get that) said elsewhere, our campus there is huge. We aren't going anywhere over a measly $40 million. That alone is probably the value of the real estate we own there if I were to guess. My bet is that the politicians will quietly back off of this eventually and DAL will go back to granting whatever discount they pulled. It just won't make the drive by.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I'm not talking about "evil taxation", I'm talking about leverage. Good information to point out about the refinery. Where is that Philly at 3%?

There is no leverage here due to taxation. Sorry to burst that bubble. It's $40 million. We probably spend that on deicing fluid.

 

[Mick]

There is no leverage here due to taxation. Sorry to burst that bubble. It's $40 million. We probably spend that on deicing fluid.

$40 million is $40 million to the bottom line no matter how you try to minimize it. If GA don't give it to them that is still $40 million they will have to spend on tax. per year mind you. It's not chump change.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The closing paragraph of this article pretty much hits the nail on the head:

"Still, in my view, the most telling aspect of the lieutenant governor’s post is the way it affirms the charge that corporate tax cuts aren’t an economic policy, so much as a form of legal bribery: If Casey Cagle believes that the primary beneficiary of the jet-fuel tax cut isn’t Delta — but rather, the people of Georgia — why would he inflict harm on his own constituents just because he’s offended by the airline’s public-relations strategy? And if he doesn’t believe the people of Georgia stand to benefit from giving Delta a $40 million tax cut, then why did he ever support that giveaway in the first place?"

GOP: No Tax Cut for Delta Until It Gives Discounts to NRA

I have to admit, he does have a point regarding this. I'm all for cutting taxes by any means necessary, but this does seem lIke a gimmick.

 

[BeecherVol]

$40 million is $40 million to the bottom line no matter how you try to minimize it. If GA don't give it to them that is still $40 million they will have to spend on tax. per year mind you. It's not chump change.

So the bottom line become more relevant after a school shooting in another state.

 

[Mick]

So the bottom line become more relevant after a school shooting in another state.

Another failed straw man. You suck at building them.