#BoycottNRA

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OuterBanksVol said:
Good news! Boycott list up to 20. Just a handful of holdouts actually.

:good!:

Not severed ties

Apple TV streams NRATV[24]
Amazon Fire streams NRATV[25]
Black Rock the asset management company has said that it would speak with weapons manufacturers and distributors, but has not taken any further action yet.[13][26]
FedEx [27]
Roku, which streams NRATV, stated it operates an open streaming service and that clients decide which channels they download.[28]
Google Chromecast streams NRATV[29]
Vinesse Wine Clubs - the official wine club of the NRA[30][31]

Severed ties

Companies that have severed ties with the NRA as of February 24, 2018 include:

Alamo Rent a Car[1]
Avis[1][5][32]
Allied Van Lines[1][33]
Best Western[1]
Budget[1][32]
Chubb Limited[1][5]
Delta Air Lines[1][2][34][35][36][37]
Enterprise Rent-a-Car[1]
First National Bank of Omaha[1][2][6][13][38]
Hertz[1][5][39]
MetLife[1][12][40]
North American Van Lines[1][33]
Personify Corp[41]
SimpliSafe[1][12][42]
Starkey Hearing Technologies[10]
Symantec[1][5][12][43][44]
Teladoc[45]
TrueCar[1][5][46]
United Airlines[2][34][35][36][37]
Wyndham Hotel Group[12]
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Looks like the NRA members are going to have a hard time getting rental car discounts...
 
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luthervol said:
The bolded was my point. Even with that fact, the DOD determined the negatives outweighed the positives. What does that say? I know what it says to me.
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No, you are making **** up again.

Please point to where the DoD determined the negatives outweighed the positives. Is there a study I'm unaware of?

And no, you can't say "well, it's obvious because they did it." The military, which I was a part of for twenty years, does nothing without a study of some sort. They don't make arbitrary decisions without a good reason.

So, tell me what made that decision in their minds.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, you are making **** up again.

Please point to where the DoD determined the negatives outweighed the positives. Is there a study I'm unaware of?

And no, you can't say "well, it's obvious because they did it." The military, which I was a part of for twenty years, does nothing without a study of some sort. They don't make arbitrary decisions without a good reason.

So, tell me what made that decision in their minds.
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"Russians don't take a dump son without a plan."
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Little? Hardly. Angry? Yep. Our nation needs changes in gun regulation. I intend to do what I can to help.
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You're not helping your cause. Your approach and demeanor pushes people in the opposite direction you want them to go.

I dropped my NRA membership years ago for various reasons and have refused to rejoin. It cost me my membership to the only rifle range in the county. But thanks to you I'm again a member.
 
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luthervol said:
Most people who see the list of companies distancing themselves from the NRA have a positive reaction to those companies.
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You avoided the question. Why is it a positive? Not why will their sales go up. Why do you consider this “good will”
 
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hog88 said:
You're not helping your cause. Your approach and demeanor pushes people in the opposite direction you want them to go.

I dropped my NRA membership years ago for various reasons and have refused to rejoin. It cost me my membership to the only rifle range in the county. But thanks to you I'm again a member.
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Should have bought a house out in the country where you can sit on your back porch and pop off rounds if you wanted to.

And invite your deputy neighbor over to do the same.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Should have bought a house out in the country where you can sit on your back porch and pop off rounds if you wanted to.

And invite your deputy neighbor over to do the same.
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I had just that until the ******* who owned the land behind me sold.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No. NASA is a prime example of a government agency that takes the experts out of position and installs bureaucrats instead. The Challenger disaster, while many fingers can be pointed, had the huge benefit of hindsight in studying "what went wrong." Space exploration, even today, is an inherently dangerous proposition. Apollo 1 taught NASA to over-engineer a craft, but still make it user friendly. By and large, the STS was overengineered in the beginning, but by the time the Challenger exploded, launches were seen as mostly "routine" and complacency set it. It did re-instill the old adage "better safe than sorry" until the Columbia disaster.

Humans have always died during exploration of the unknown regions. But so long as we learn from our mistakes and do our best to avoid them in the future, we should never stop exploring.
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I’m stating the present condition. You’re discussing method. 😬

I’m well aware of the changes in NASA leadership and oversight over time. It has always mind boggled me how the same agency that rose to the challenge in Apollo 13 decided to press the launch button on STS-51. It’s simple actually. Put a few strategic local cancers in place and it rotted from within.

Alpha nerds like me look to the heyday of NASA as our disciples of our trade in my opinion. Not anymore for me.

I need to get somethings done today. I need to try and throw the lurker mode switch on the damn iPhone.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Little? Hardly. Angry? Yep. Our nation needs changes in gun regulation. I intend to do what I can to help.
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No one is buying your outrage. You are taking a tragic event and trying to manipulate it for political gain. If this, and your anger, were about this incident then you would be demanding answers from those that failed. The FBI, the local police, and the school all have way more blood on their hands then the NRA in this case. But instead of doing that, you demonize the NRA, like it and it’s memebrs are evil. You are disgusting for doing so.
 
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volfanhill said:
No one is buying your outrage. You are taking a tragic event and trying to manipulate it for political gain. If this, and your anger, were about this incident then you would be demanding answers from those that failed. The FBI, the local police, and the school all have way more blood on their hands then the NRA in this case. But instead of doing that m, you demonize the NRA, like it and it’s memebrs are evil. You are disgusting for doing so.
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He was disgusting long before then.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think another thing these companies might be forgetting is that there are many second amendment supporters that while they aren't members or even agree with all the things the NRA does, they still look at an attack on the NRA as an attack on the second amendment. I'm not sure these companies realize how big that group of people are.
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The point is that on a national scale the NRA is viewed in a very negative way, an organization that does far greater harm than any perceived good, and a group that propagandizes its rabid members.
 
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luthervol said:
The point is that on a national scale the NRA is viewed in a very negative way, an organization that does far greater harm than any perceived good, and a group that propagandizes its rabid members.
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What harm do they do? Do you know about any of the good they do? And on a national scale they are not looked at as negative. Get away from NY and California and they do not have a negative persona as you suggest.
 
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luthervol said:
The point is that on a national scale the NRA is viewed in a very negative way, an organization that does far greater harm than any perceived good, and a group that propagandizes its rabid members.
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Should have started off with "My personal opinion is..." instead of "the point."

Furthermore, who demonizes them? The majority of the people? Or the majority of the media that will give a soundbite to some Hollywood idiot that goes on camera lambasting the NRA while hiding behind armed guards?
 
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luthervol said:
The point is that on a national scale the NRA is viewed in a very negative way, an organization that does far greater harm than any perceived good, and a group that propagandizes its rabid members.
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How many of these school shootings were done by NRA members? How many killers in Chicago are NRA members?

Looks as though NRA members are being propagandized to be peaceful, responsible gun owners.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How many of these school shootings were done by NRA members? How many killers in Chicago are NRA members?

Looks as though NRA members are being propagandized to be peaceful, responsible gun owners.
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That's when you turn the corner of making something better, to "just pass a law already".

Totally disregarding what that "law" actually does and doesn't do.
 
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