Boycott ABC, ESPN & All Disney Products and Properties

[McDad]

They can be anything they want, and compete in any way they want, in the free market. Go ahead and pay for cable/satellite access and/or start a YouTube channel. If they use free access to public broadcast systems, they need to use them in fair and balanced ways, within the boundaries that they agree to when gaining their licenses.

Understood.

Who arbitrates 'fair and balanced?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, blasted Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr on Friday for threats he made this week related to Jimmy Kimmel's show, calling the Trump administration official's actions "dangerous as hell."

“I think it is unbelievably dangerous for government to put itself in the position of saying we’re going to decide what speech we like and what we don’t, and we’re going to threaten to take you off air if we don’t like what you’re saying,” Cruz said on his podcast, "Verdict with Ted Cruz."

“I like Brendan Carr. He’s a good guy, he’s the chairman of the FCC. I work closely with him, but what he said there is dangerous as hell,” Cruz said.

Cruz is chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, which has jurisdiction over the FCC. He warned Carr's actions could have long-term consequences.

“It might feel good right now to threaten Jimmy Kimmel, yeah, but when it is used to silence every conservative in America, we will regret it,” Cruz said.

So you like him now?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Did you find Kimmel’s blackface portrayal of LeBron acceptable? Is that someone that Disney should have given a contract?
The question I have is; why is it only conservatives who “hate Jimmy”. The real question is why doesn’t the left?
I mean the guy hosted “The Man Show”. Have you ever seen clips from that?

I honestly never thought the Man Show was all that funny. But I also think Howard Stern is a buffoon and it was essentially the same kind of juvenile humor.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Understood.

Who arbitrates 'fair and balanced?

I just edited to add a point, as I am prone to do.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Remember when Huff and the other leftist celebrated the de-platforming of Trump and other conservatives? Said it was a private business and they could do what they wanted? Good times.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Understood.

Who arbitrates 'fair and balanced?

That's always the trick and the danger. Noted and agreed.

Let's just make it easy. No one can discuss anything close to politics on the public airways? Or we try to do the hard work of finding the balance of allowing it without it becoming mere one-sided, democracy-frustrating propaganda?

 

[McDad]

That's always the trick and the danger. Noted and agreed.

Let's just make it easy. No one can discuss anything close to politics on the public airways? Or we try to do the hard work of finding the balance of allowing it without it becoming mere one-sided, democracy-frustrating propaganda?

OC, I cannot and will not ever agree to prohibiting political speech on public airwaves. Who then is allowed to refute unconstitutional policy? Question political leadership? Bring new political ideas to the masses?

For me, it's a non starter.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Does this mean Pride week at Disney world is no longer?

 

[McDad]

Does this mean Pride week at Disney world is no longer?

No. But it is also no shorter.

 

[InVOLuntary]

No. But it is also no shorter.

 

[volbound1700]

If it was about ratings and network decision, it was fine. If it is about criticism, not so much. I am fine with giving gravity to late shows, I can understand FCC limiting content designed for children but not late shows.

 

[Orange_Crush]

OC, I cannot and will not ever agree to prohibiting political speech on public airwaves. Who then is allowed to refute unconstitutional policy? Question political leadership? Bring new political ideas to the masses?

For me, it's a non starter.

Me too. So, I guess we need to do the hard work of allowing it while trying to limit the dangers on either side, having allowed it.

What is more dangerous? Allowing our public airways to become nothing more than a one-party propaganda machine that lies to demonize the opposing party? Or allowing our elected representatives the ability to hopefully try to prevent that from happening, with our votes as oversight of the overseers?

 

[MontyPython]

So you like him now?

Heh. I agree with him regarding this issue. I agree with lots of people I don't like. I disagree with lots of people I do like.

The PF provides views from all angles. That's a good thing.

And it's all possible because of the 1st Amendment.

You may love Trump and want him to be all powerful and usurp Congressional powers and violate every established law on the books, but just remember... when he's gone, the Dems will probably take back the White House. At which point your support of an American dictatorship will no doubt end.

 

[McDad]

Me too. So, I guess we need to do the hard work of allowing it while trying to limit the dangers on either side, having allowed it.

What is more dangerous? Allowing our public airways to become nothing more than a one-party propaganda machine that lies to demonize the opposing party? Or allowing our elected representatives the ability to hopefully try to prevent that from happening, with our votes as oversight of the overseers?

It's like choosing which team i like more, Bama or Florida.

 

[Jkm0920]

I'm not sure if I understand. If my reply misses the mark, please let me know.

Full disclosure, I am not a good spokesman for the right. I didn't see anything in his post that discussed a frustration about where the rules were when it was happening to them (the right).

If your question is more about the tenor of the posts from our R tribe, I think it's valid. At minimum, that angle is frequently seen here. as the powers alternate, the "victims" do too.

Any confusion is my fault so I apologize and thank you for your patience. Yes, my question had more to do with the R's response to accusations from the L and the possible missed opportunity because of it. Thanks again.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Heh. I agree with him. I agree with lots of people I don't like. I disagree with lots of people I do like.

The PF provides views from all angles. I like that.

Can someone bookmark this for the next time conservatives are held responsible for everything Trump says or does? Let's agree on some nuance that one can generally support one person/party as the overall better choice than the alternative? A little nuance can go a long way.

 

[n_huffhines]

Your judgment and your perception of inference has taken a severe turn for the worse of late. I have discussed the topics without defense. In fact there have only been a few people who have asked me what and how I think. You are not one of them.

You're currently on a 'Trump assassination was staged", "ESPN hates us", "the election was stolen" pathway. In that walk, I am relieved I disappoint you.

Give me a break, bro. The coercion happened in front of your face. You've become a hack of a devil's advocate.

I figure you're saying what you want to say the most. Don't expect me to pry extra thoughts out of you, like I'm doing something wrong in the discussion.

 

[McDad]

Any confusion is my fault so I apologize and thank you for your patience. Yes, my question had more to do with the R's response to accusations from the L and the possible missed opportunity because of it. Thanks again.

My pleasure.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I think @McDad may be dangerously close to huff's demotion league.

 

[MontyPython]

Give me a break, bro. The coercion happened in front of your face. You've become a hack of a devil's advocate.

I figure you're saying what you want to say the most. Don't expect me to pry extra thoughts out of you, like I'm doing something wrong in the discussion.

This.

Given the facts plainly in view at this point, anyone denying coercion at this point just wants it to not be true. I've seen ZERO evidence that ABC planned to fire Kimmel prior to the FCC Carr ****er demanding that ABC punish Kimmel for his anti-MAGA monologue, else potentially have its licenses, etc. revoked.

Action. Reaction.

Carr threatens ABC. ABC fires Kimmel.

If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.

 

[McDad]

Give me a break, bro. The coercion happened in front of your face. You've become a hack of a devil's advocate.

I figure you're saying what you want to say the most. Don't expect me to pry extra thoughts out of you, like I'm doing something wrong in the discussion.

Nexstar's spokesperson said it had no effect.

I have given you many breaks over the last several months.

Please place me on ignore. I currently find zero value in your posts. I am done.

Best wishes to you and your family, huff.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Does this mean Pride week at Disney world is no longer?

Pride doesn’t need a month at Disney. They’v effectively got all 365.25 days of it

 

[McDad]

This.

Given the facts plainly in view at this point, anyone denying coercion at this point just wants it to not be true. I've seen ZERO evidence that ABC planned to fire Kimmel prior to the FCC Carr ****er demanding that ABC punish Kimmel for his anti-MAGA monologue.

Action. Reaction.

Carr threatens ABC. ABC fires Kimmel.

If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.

The info is linked. I am willing to walk you through it.

 

[n_huffhines]

Nexstar's spokesperson said it had no effect.

I have given you many breaks over the last several months.

Please place me on ignore. I currently find zero value in your posts. I am done.

Best wishes to you and your family, huff.

You were just trying to gaslight me into thinking I'm a conspiracy theorist after I demonstrated that I'm not advocating a secret plot. Thanks for the "breaks," pal.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Heh. I agree with him regarding this issue. I agree with lots of people I don't like. I disagree with lots of people I do like.

The PF provides views from all angles. That's a good thing.

And it's all possible because of the 1st Amendment.

You may love Trump and want him to be all powerful and usurp Congressional powers and violate every established law on the books, but just remember... when he's gone, the Dems will probably take back the White House. At which point your support of an American dictatorship will no doubt end.

Were you this worked up when Trump and other conservatives were de-platformed from virtually all social media?