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Delmar said:
Were they not already in discussion with the FCC and Carr about the merger before all this happened? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out if they didn’t suspend Kimmel, it wouldn’t exactly curry favor with the FCC.
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No. Sinclair is not in merger talks
 
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McDad said:
Here we go again. Ask a question and I will clarify.

Allow me to do what I can.
Your post: "there it is"
My post: what does "there it is" mean
Your post: Colbert.
My post; there it is is in regards to Colbert?
Your post: idk

What does "there it is" mean? Apparently I wrongly connected it to FCC/Carr/Kimmel. So what does it mean?
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When the story broke, the first thing I did was to look for any upcoming business for ABC/Disney that concerns the FCC. There wasn't any. But there is a $6b merger for ABC's biggest affiliate partner.

I didn't see it at first. There it is.
 
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- the relationship between ABC, CBS, etc. and affiliates is tenuous.
- Disney is a huge corp where a ton of what they do is outside the FCC's control. That is not the case for TV affiliates. Their entire business is under the FCC's thumb.
- Nexstar is trying to buy Tegna, which would give them over a 39% market share, which is against FCC guidelines. The admin is reportedly willing to waive this rule and approve the merger.
- then the Kimmel thing happened
- then the FCC makes threats
- then Nexstar pulls Kimmel

It's so fkn obvious



Justice Alito opinion:

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n_huffhines said:
- the relationship between ABC, CBS, etc. and affiliates is tenuous.
- Disney is a huge corp where a ton of what they do is outside the FCC's control. That is not the case for TV affiliates. Their entire business is under the FCC's thumb.
- Nexstar is trying to buy Tegna, which would give them over a 39% market share, which is against FCC guidelines. The admin is reportedly willing to waive this rule and approve the merger.
- then the Kimmel thing happened
- then the FCC makes threats
- then Nexstar pulls Kimmel

It's so fkn obvious

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The guest points out Melania got $40m for her documentary with Amazon, which is way above market value for the biggest names. Bezos bent the knee and kissed the ring in a bunch of ways. Didn't know about that one.
 
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n_huffhines said:
- the relationship between ABC, CBS, etc. and affiliates is tenuous.
- Disney is a huge corp where a ton of what they do is outside the FCC's control. That is not the case for TV affiliates. Their entire business is under the FCC's thumb.
- Nexstar is trying to buy Tegna, which would give them over a 39% market share, which is against FCC guidelines. The admin is reportedly willing to waive this rule and approve the merger.
- then the Kimmel thing happened
- then the FCC makes threats
- then Nexstar pulls Kimmel

It's so fkn obvious

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The timeline makes it at least possible that Brendan Carr's threats were a factor behind ABC's decision to pull "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" off the air.

However, @McDad would call this either "circumstantial evidence" or a "conspiracy theory." 😂

Carr has even made a "We're not done with you yet," type remark regarding Kimmel .... even though, now that Kimmel is off the air, he is no longer under the FCC's purview. This is insane.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The timeline makes it at least possible that Brendan Carr's threats were a factor behind ABC's decision to pull "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" off the air.

However, @McDad would call this either "circumstantial evidence" or a "conspiracy theory." 😂

Carr has even made a "We're not done with you yet," type remark regarding Kimmel .... even though, now that Kimmel is off the air, he is no longer under the FCC's purview. This is insane.
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n_huffhines said:
- the relationship between ABC, CBS, etc. and affiliates is tenuous.
- Disney is a huge corp where a ton of what they do is outside the FCC's control. That is not the case for TV affiliates. Their entire business is under the FCC's thumb.
- Nexstar is trying to buy Tegna, which would give them over a 39% market share, which is against FCC guidelines. The admin is reportedly willing to waive this rule and approve the merger.
- then the Kimmel thing happened
- then the FCC makes threats
- then Nexstar pulls Kimmel

It's so fkn obvious



Justice Alito opinion:

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But they have, multiple times.

Not saying it's right, just saying it's happened and no one pushed back. I can't support with party, they funny represent me. I lean right. I just wish we could get this together.
 
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The guest made a funny point about the position Bob Iger is in.

He came out of retirement to rescue Disney. He has done everything he can to depoliticize Disney on his watch to appease the right. This scandal has made Jimmy the face of Disney, and the right hates Jimmy, so this threatens all his progress.

And this is my thought....Iger wants to retire again, and now this is going to be his legacy? That he immediately caved to Trump? He's ****ed. I don't think he expected the reaction he got.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The timeline makes it at least possible that Brendan Carr's threats were a factor behind ABC's decision to pull "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" off the air.

However, @McDad would call this either "circumstantial evidence" or a "conspiracy theory." 😂

Carr has even made a "We're not done with you yet," type remark regarding Kimmel .... even though, now that Kimmel is off the air, he is no longer under the FCC's purview. This is insane.
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Regardless, Kimmel now has a case to sue the FCC and we all get to pay for it. Thanks, Donald.
 
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Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, blasted Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr on Friday for threats he made this week related to Jimmy Kimmel's show, calling the Trump administration official's actions "dangerous as hell."

“I think it is unbelievably dangerous for government to put itself in the position of saying we’re going to decide what speech we like and what we don’t, and we’re going to threaten to take you off air if we don’t like what you’re saying,” Cruz said on his podcast, "Verdict with Ted Cruz."

“I like Brendan Carr. He’s a good guy, he’s the chairman of the FCC. I work closely with him, but what he said there is dangerous as hell,” Cruz said.

Cruz is chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, which has jurisdiction over the FCC. He warned Carr's actions could have long-term consequences.

“It might feel good right now to threaten Jimmy Kimmel, yeah, but when it is used to silence every conservative in America, we will regret it,” Cruz said.
 
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hog88 said:
Sinclair made their decision prior to Carr making his comments, how does that jive with your theory?
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McDad said:
Not supported by the timeline.
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Sinclair apparently made its decision AFTER Carr threatened ABC.

### Timeline of Events

Based on public reports from September 2025, Sinclair Broadcast Group decided to suspend airing *Jimmy Kimmel Live!* **after** FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's threat against ABC. Here's a breakdown of the key sequence:

| Date/Time | Event | Details |
|-----------|-------|---------|
| **September 15, 2025 (Evening)** | Jimmy Kimmel's controversial remarks | During *Jimmy Kimmel Live!*, Kimmel made on-air comments about the politics of the suspect in Charlie Kirk's killing, sparking immediate backlash. |
| **September 16, 2025 (Morning)** | FCC Chairman Carr's threat | Carr posted on X (formerly Twitter) criticizing ABC and threatening to investigate affiliates for potential license revocation over the "inflammatory" content, citing FCC indecency rules. This amplified pressure on networks like ABC. |
| **September 16, 2025 (Afternoon)** | Sinclair's decision | Sinclair, which owns hundreds of ABC affiliates, announced it would preempt *Jimmy Kimmel Live!* effective immediately, citing "community standards" and viewer complaints. Reports (e.g., from Variety and The Hollywood Reporter) link this directly to Carr's statement as a catalyst. |
| **September 17, 2025** | ABC's suspension | ABC followed suit, preempting the show indefinitely via a spokesperson. |

This timeline is corroborated by multiple sources, including FCC statements, Sinclair's press release, and coverage from outlets like Deadline and Fox News. No evidence suggests Sinclair acted before Carr's threat—Sinclair's move was framed as a response to the escalating controversy.
 
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1000000316.jpgHe has promised to hold broadcast TV and radio stations accountable, and just one hour after thanking the president for his appointment, Carr wrote on X, “We must dismantle the censorship cartel and restore free speech rights for everyday Americans.”
 
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MontyPython said:
Wrong.

Sinclair made its decision AFTER Carr threatened ABC.

### Timeline of Events

Based on public reports from September 2025, Sinclair Broadcast Group decided to suspend airing *Jimmy Kimmel Live!* **after** FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's threat against ABC. Here's a breakdown of the key sequence:

| Date/Time | Event | Details |
|-----------|-------|---------|
| **September 15, 2025 (Evening)** | Jimmy Kimmel's controversial remarks | During *Jimmy Kimmel Live!*, Kimmel made on-air comments about the politics of the suspect in Charlie Kirk's killing, sparking immediate backlash. |
| **September 16, 2025 (Morning)** | FCC Chairman Carr's threat | Carr posted on X (formerly Twitter) criticizing ABC and threatening to investigate affiliates for potential license revocation over the "inflammatory" content, citing FCC indecency rules. This amplified pressure on networks like ABC. |
| **September 16, 2025 (Afternoon)** | Sinclair's decision | Sinclair, which owns hundreds of ABC affiliates, announced it would preempt *Jimmy Kimmel Live!* effective immediately, citing "community standards" and viewer complaints. Reports (e.g., from Variety and The Hollywood Reporter) link this directly to Carr's statement as a catalyst. |
| **September 17, 2025** | ABC's suspension | ABC followed suit, preempting the show indefinitely via a spokesperson. |

This timeline is corroborated by multiple sources, including FCC statements, Sinclair's press release, and coverage from outlets like Deadline and Fox News. No evidence suggests Sinclair acted before Carr's threat—Sinclair's move was framed as a response to the escalating controversy.
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Decisions require discussion. The discussion was held in the AM on 9/17. Carr statements in the afternoon on 9/17. And these moments are detailed in posts with links. We also are unaware how quickly the statements made on the podcast are known by the parties involved.

You, Larry, and Curly can think whatever you want. But the last thing yall are, as long as djt sits in the oval, is objective. My theory which I shared 2 days ago is superior. In fact, one (maybe two) of the troop gave it a like after another poster shared something of their own which aligned with what I shared.

And finally, I asked yesterday when does a government official's words become policy and when are they just words. Even used an example from Obama/Putin. No one engaged. It's unfortunate because I don't know and if we could find understanding it would greatly help classify things. My hope is that classification would improve the caliber of conversation in our forum.

I welcome the trial some believe is imminent.
 
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I doubt any of you read it, but this Variety article fills in some voids of what we know.

variety.com

Jimmy Kimmel and Disney Working to Reach Compromise to Bring His Show Back

Jimmy Kimmel and his representatives are working with Disney and ABC leaders on a compromise to allow 'Jimmy Kimmel Live' to return to ABC.
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It covers a lot of ground. I found this nugget nifty. My only reservation is the spokesperson is unnamed.
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"A Nexstar spokesman has said Carr’s comments had no bearing on its decision to pre-empt Kimmel’s show."
 
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volfanhill said:
The NBA and late night tv have a very similar problem. NBA commissioner dumbly admitted that it's a highlight league. He's right. No reason to watch it live. Catch the highlights all over social media the next day. Even more so with late night. Why stay up and watch a show that has probably 3-5 minutes of funny/interesting stuff when I can just catch a clip the next day? I was/am a huge Conan fan. Stopped watching him live for that reason. Now I can stay up and not watch a ton of not funny or interesting and catch the good stuff later
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I stopped watching both in mid 2000s and it had nothing to do with politics, so you are spot on.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The guest made a funny point about the position Bob Iger is in.

He came out of retirement to rescue Disney. He has done everything he can to depoliticize Disney on his watch to appease the right. This scandal has made Jimmy the face of Disney, and the right hates Jimmy, so this threatens all his progress.

And this is my thought....Iger wants to retire again, and now this is going to be his legacy? That he immediately caved to Trump? He's ****ed. I don't think he expected the reaction he got.
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The political stuff with Disney was never about R vs D though, it was about putting LGBTQ+ stuff in shows designed for children.
 
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LadyVolette said:
Ikr.. this whole thread is funny lol ‘we’re going to boycott ABC and Disney’… oh noes 😂
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Curious. So you believe the federal government should ban free speech if it criticizes the political party currently in power.

Not me. I like the 1st Amendment. Perhaps as much if not more than you like the 2nd Amendment.

I will continue to criticize the Orange Menace and his band of moronic thugs... because I can and because they deserve to be criticized. You... you can just fiddle with your guns and what not.
 
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