Botch on the way to Maryland

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zydane47 said:
And again, he didn't ask for your moral guidance either. One situation has nothing to do with the other. Nothing at all. You're bringing up something that has no reason what so ever as to why he doesn't like Butch Jones. Which makes no sense and just makes you look bad.

Just a pro tip as well, if you don't want someone else responding to your moral dilemma type questions, then don't ask them on a public forum.
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Respond all you want. Just curious if HE was willing to forgive one and not the other snd didnt want to assume he did.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Butch did make some relationships here and we all know what Tee can do on the recruiting trail. Not sure I want those guys jetting around our back yard on Under Armor money.
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hell, as far as tee goes nobody here seems to want him. hell, even posting names of folk who have done far less. must be because he sleeps on his right side instead of his left......as some would have u believe some complete bs similar to that
 
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VolInNW said:
I think I can sum this up.

Freeze allegedly committed acts of questionable moral character. With the exception of any questionable actions in the Oher recruitment (which Fulmer still has his feelings hurt over, apparently) none of them were directed at UT or meant to insult UT.

Jones committed no acts of questionable moral character of which I am aware. What he did was take a job at a rival (perfectly fine), travel back to Knoxville (perfectly fine), then proceed to make sure his celebration of a win over his former program were well publicized (a definite slap). In this case, he should have followed the example of Lane Kiffin (not a phrase used often.) Kiffin came here, coached, acted with dignity, then left. No cigar shots or celebration pics were posted.

People will forgive a moral straying. They will even forgive a direct action taken against them. What they won't forgive is a slight, a petty insult. Robert DeNiro says it best in Hoffa:

"If a guy's close to you, you can't slight 'im. You can't slight that guy. A real grievance can be resolved; differences can be resolved. But an imaginary hurt, a slight - that mother****** gonna hate you 'til the day he dies."
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He punched Mack Crowder in the penis
 
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All the moral / Freeze / who punched who in nutz aside, I think it's comical that Butch might end up in the B1G where he would have to square off against his old buddy DeBoard every year.
 
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volfannbama said:
Respond all you want. Just curious if HE was willing to forgive one and not the other snd didnt want to assume he did.
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Again, one doesn’t have to do with the either. So asking his stance on Freeze has no bearing on his feelings towards Jones.

You’re not his moral compass. The guy doesn’t like Jones, that’s it, he has no reason or obligation to answer your question on the matter, but to bring his morals into question is a bit out of line.
 
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lexkyvol said:
hell, as far as tee goes nobody here seems to want him. hell, even posting names of folk who have done far less. must be because he sleeps on his right side instead of his left......as some would have u believe some complete bs similar to that
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Tee's issues go back to what happened when he left with Kiffin and they looted our recruiting class. If Tee had stayed, he might be our head coach by now. Tee can come back here one of two ways. Either do it with hat in hand, asking the fans' forgiveness for how he left and taking a sub-coordinator staff position. Or do it like Johnny and come back here as a returning hero after winning a national championship somewhere else.
 
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zydane47 said:
Again, one doesn’t have to do with the either. So asking his stance on Freeze has no bearing on his feelings towards Jones.

You’re not his moral compass. The guy doesn’t like Jones, that’s it, he has no reason or obligation to answer your question on the matter, but to bring his morals into question is a bit out of line.
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You the hired spokensman? My thinking is it's better to try to understand him than to assume. And I assume if he is willing to forgive one and not the other.
 
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volfannbama said:
You the hired spokensman? My thinking is it's better to try to understand him than to assume. And I assume if he is willing to forgive one and not the other.
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Nah it seems like your thinking is questioning that guy’s morals.

You can frame it how you want but you’re not trying to understand anything. The way it’s coming off is you’re trying to take a better than you approach.

And again his feelings towards Butch has nothing to do with his feelings towards Freeze, they’re two separate things, to compare one to the other is stupid. The fact that you either can’t or won’t see that is a problem you should probably resolve soon.
 
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lexkyvol said:
hell, as far as tee goes nobody here seems to want him. hell, even posting names of folk who have done far less. must be because he sleeps on his right side instead of his left......as some would have u believe some complete bs similar to that
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zydane47 said:
Nah it seems like your thinking is questioning that guy’s morals.

You can frame it how you want but you’re not trying to understand anything. The way it’s coming off is you’re trying to take a better than you approach.

And again his feelings towards Butch has nothing to do with his feelings towards Freeze, they’re two separate things, to compare one to the other is stupid. The fact that you either can’t or won’t see that is a problem you should probably resolve soon.
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Oh, he already knows this before he even asked.
 
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