Boom! Grudes is Coming Back!!

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TAF said:
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Steaks and cigars for Georgia game this year?
 
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There are exactly three reasons why anyone still glorifies this abject failure (pssst: Butch Jones has a better winning percentage over his career than Jon Gruden does).

1: you're trolling
2: you don't understand football
3: you lose all motor functions when you see a shiny object.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
There are exactly three reasons why anyone still glorifies this abject failure (pssst: Butch Jones has a better winning percentage over his career than Jon Gruden does).

1: you're trolling
2: you don't understand football
3: you lose all motor functions when you see a shiny object.
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With all due respect, comparing the winning percentages of a coach who spent his entire career in the NFL to one who has been strictly a college coach doesn’t make much sense and doesn’t prove anything.
 
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Boston Vol said:
With all due respect, comparing the winning percentages of a coach who spent his entire career in the NFL to one who has been strictly a college coach doesn’t make much sense and doesn’t prove anything.
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It actually does, it proves that one knows more about winning football games than the other.

BUT, since you want to be "that guy", here's one for you. Jon Gruden: .513 all-time winning percentage. Jeff Fisher (who many on this board refuse to say a good word about): .510 all-time winning percentage. That's .003, by the way. Yes, Fisher coached longer, noted.

You'd think there was a reason that the only job he got (and failed yet again at) was Oakland after he wiped his *** with Tampa Bay.......

Jon Gruden is good at exactly two things: making idiotic faces and failing at being a football coach.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
It actually does, it proves that one knows more about winning football games than the other.

BUT, since you want to be "that guy", here's one for you. Jon Gruden: .513 all-time winning percentage. Jeff Fisher (who many on this board refuse to say a good word about): .510 all-time winning percentage. That's .003, by the way. Yes, Fisher coached longer, noted.

You'd think there was a reason that the only job he got (and failed yet again at) was Oakland after he wiped his *** with Tampa Bay.......

Jon Gruden is good at exactly two things: making idiotic faces and failing at being a football coach.
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It actually doesn’t prove anything. Here’s one for you, Phil Fulmer had a career winning percentage of 74%. Let’s stack that up against some NFL head coaches:

Vince Lombardi 70%
Don Shula 66%
Bill Belichick 63%
Joe Gibbs 62%
Bill Walsh 61%
Tom Landry 60%
Bill Parcells 57%
Chuck Noll 57%


I can’t believe for the life of me that Tennessee fired Phil. I mean he was clearly a better football coach than those NFL hall of famers. Winning percentages don’t lie.
 
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Boston Vol said:
It actually doesn’t prove anything. Here’s one for you, Phil Fulmer had a career winning percentage of 74%. Let’s stack that up against some NFL head coaches:

Vince Lombardi 70%
Don Shula 66%
Bill Belichick 63%
Joe Gibbs 62%
Bill Walsh 61%
Tom Landry 60%
Bill Parcells 57%
Chuck Noll 57%


I can’t believe for the life of me that Tennessee fired Phil. I mean he was clearly a better football coach than those NFL hall of famers. Winning percentages don’t lie.
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It was very difficult to see Phil go but maybe that had to be done? I am not sure. Given the environment surrounding the program, I am not sure he could last much longer either way. As far as winning %, someone once posted Phil's winning % of his 1st half tenure vs. the 2nd half. I remembered that showed a pretty clear decline. I also think NFL is so much more competitive than CFL so NFL top coaches' winning % would be lower naturally. For example, NFL has the draft where bad teams pick first. Every team has the same payroll size. On the other hand, CFL recruits which means whoever has the better record, more resource and better players will get even more good players and afford better coaches. It's easy for powerful house programs to steamroll mid to low tier programs.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
It actually does, it proves that one knows more about winning football games than the other.

BUT, since you want to be "that guy", here's one for you. Jon Gruden: .513 all-time winning percentage. Jeff Fisher (who many on this board refuse to say a good word about): .510 all-time winning percentage. That's .003, by the way. Yes, Fisher coached longer, noted.

You'd think there was a reason that the only job he got (and failed yet again at) was Oakland after he wiped his *** with Tampa Bay.......

Jon Gruden is good at exactly two things: making idiotic faces and failing at being a football coach.
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Gruden rode the talent he inherited and stole a Super Bowl win. Then got fired when that team he inherited went into the dumpster. He also raved about Johnny Manziel and declared him =" slam dunk #1 draft pick". The fact that some Vols fans can't let him go is sad .
 
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KittenVol said:
His emails beg to differ.
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Great coach that got hung up in a spat between a news paper trying to get an owner to change its mascot or sell the team. The only thing they found was a few raw emails by Gruden……and his career was ruined. I am sure if private emails by any coach, college or pro, were released for public scrutiny, there would be embarrassing findings. I am sure that would go for anyone on this or any forum…..including you KittenVol. We all would be embarrassed by things we have privately sent/texted not expecting them to be fodder for public consumption.
 
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