Boo Carter (Status, Rumors, Updates)

[barney]

all a bunch of drama about nothing thanks Tony

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Ok, this is obviously a Tony B guy and with the AD being tight lipped, it’s affected the show and income stream and the constant crapping on our coach even with Boo returning, shows they want him gone because the show is more important to Tony than what’s best for the program. Makes sense with it putting or not putting food on his table. I used to like him and read his blog. Had a couple of email conversations with him. But these postings from a few posters recently has shown what seems to me as more of an AGENDA. Who cares if it’s the truth. It was none of our business and doesn’t help the program. Not sure if Boo being back is good or not but Coach has the responsibility and it’s his decision.

So if someone has good news, let's say they have an inside hint that Keys is flipping to us but it's something they can't officially source, you don't want to know?

This "help the program" or "hurt the program" begs the question of how exactly does our knowing good or bad things help or hurt?

What happens in the program, happens. I'm not so self centered to believe even my donation matters that much and certainly the stuff I hear, think, pass on, or whatever does nothing.

Point me to the damage to the program, please. Thanks.

 

[adam.vol]

A real journalist enters the chat…

A real journalist clears up what a hobbyist muddled up. We could have never heard about the inside drama and nothing would have appeared any different from the outside.

I would rather not know what’s going on in the locker room if it doesn’t make it to the playing field.

 

[james_govols]

What's the update? Boo gone?

 

[sreveisVol]

Or Judkins from Ole Miss. Downs from Alabama. I could go on, but I think everyone gets the point.

2024 will be tough to top - 2024 College Football Top Transfer Portal Players

The Kadyn Proctor saga was wild.

 

[Adam2014]

What's the update? Boo gone?

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gon' be doing a lot of running

 

[OrangeSquid]

Actually, yes. Amazingly made it though those formative years without surprises. Why? Myself and the wife were EXTREMELY proactive in our parenting. I watched parents kid surprised with all kinds of stuff and they all shared one thing in common.

I hear what you're saying, but; just to be fair, CJH didn't have 18 yrs. to be proactively raising these players.

 

[adam.vol]

Have you ever raised an 18-20 year old son? You are often caught off guard.

Not me. My kid is perfect!

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Once again, you always find a way to blame Tennessee fans and make it seem like an entire situation is of the fanbase’s doing. I know you are Mr. Positive and always looks for the optimistic take in everything and nothing is ever the player’s fault, but come on man, how can this be blamed on the fans?

It also seems like Boo should be more concerned about the opinion of the team that was reported by reputable sources to be angry at his behavior and lack of professionalism than the fanbase for going onto a message board and discussing what turned out to not be rumors.

Pretty dang simple, compounding a single player’s lack of character with multiple fan’s game of GOSSIP on steroids PUBLICLY is WORSE. Not a justification for either. TB is just a fan with a bigger megaphone.

Any VOL that does not trust Coach to GET IT RIGHT in an appropriate timeframe needs to back up and think it through. Selling out EARLY on a sophomore with no path back can look real bad in living rooms. Now not only are we dealing with an incomplete transgression list, we have no idea of the complexity of the hurdles to get back ON THE FIELD. Failure to meet will be totally on Boo.

Would be totally out of character for coach, who I bet is in lockstep with DW. Think about that probability.

Wish I knew how to post the charge to the fanbase at the DW introductory presser I believe it was. Lots of folks need a refresher.

 

[wmcovol]

Have you ever raised an 18-20 year old son? You are often caught off guard.

Imagine having 100 18-21 yr old sons?

 

[SubVet676]

If memory serves, and a lot of times these days it doesn’t, I’m reminded of a situation involving Tom Osborne when he was in Nebraska. There was a player who was in trouble, and someone asked Tom if that player was still on the team. Tom’s response was “He needs Nebraska football more than Nebraska football needs him“. This situation reminds me of that. I hope it works out to our advantage, regardless of what that advantage is.

 

[OneManGang]

Have you ever raised an 18-20 year old son? You are often caught off guard.

I raised two of them and they could change their minds in the middle of the same sentence!

They turned out OK, though.

 

[OrangeInKy]

I just glad Chris vetted the information before releasing it. Guess he cares about credibility.

Seems like if a guy had the info a week ago and it was all true, it was vetted pretty well, and seems like it helps credibility. IDK.

 

[OrangeInKy]

LOL. Ok. Sure. This was coming out. Man, the denial of some of y’all is hilarious.

Ainge has talked a lot about it, Tyler and Will said there was a physical altercation. But, “Basilio is trash for talking about this!!!”

 

[Delmar]

I think in years past, this wouldn’t have ever been an issue. It would have been handled internally. Now, fans want to escalate every situation unnecessarily on social media and we are lucky Boo has enough grit to move past the nastiness of TN fans the last few days. Props to him

Boo is getting paid to “move past it”. This is a different world for the players. They either deal with the criticism or move on. I no longer have any sympathy for the players when it comes to criticism. Nico and Boo initiated the problems. Let them deal with the backwash.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Probably a stupid response..If it's true that some of the Defensive Coach's didn't want Boo back, isn't that a potential animosity or lack of trust issues amongst the Coach's? If that is actually true .

It sure seemed the way CJH was talking that the leadership council decided he could have a 2nd chance.

 

[BelievetheHeup2022]

Seems like if a guy had the info a week ago and it was all true, it was vetted pretty well, and seems like it helps credibility. IDK.

I think some of you struggle with the difference of taking a rumor off of a message board and running with it as a story as opposed to actual professionals checking their contacts and not releasing information until they are confident the story is legit.

 

[76vol]

Actually, yes. Amazingly made it though those formative years without surprises. Why? Myself and the wife were EXTREMELY proactive in our parenting. I watched parents kid surprised with all kinds of stuff and they all shared one thing in commu

That probably means there's a lot you still don't know. My Mom took a house shoe to me when I was married and in my 30s when I told her about an incident from my teens.

In her defense, she didn't have a broom handle handy which was her weapon of choice back in the day. Probably jail time these days for that.

You might want to hold off the self congratulations. It ain't over till it's over when having kids. Sometimes it's the non rebellious teenager that teaches you a lesson years on down the road

 

[Skooter]

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gon' be doing a lot of running

Can’t really do that anymore. Get in big trouble if extra running in this heat results in a collapse.

 

[CAVPUT]

So Heupel shouldn't have signed a talented kid from nearby Chattanooga because...he had the potential to be a problem down the road? Guess what...you won't win a damn thing if that's your approach. Most of the high end talent you sign in football has the potential to be a problem down the road.

You know who finished 2nd in that recruitment? Jim Harbaugh. Does he not know what he's doing? If Tennessee hadn't signed him, you and others would be gnashing teeth that this staff let a talented instate kid get away.

And this isn't baseball. Totally different dynamic and personality type with baseball kids. Instead of comparing across sports, compare to the most successful active coach in college football. Does Kirby Smart avoid signing a talented player because there is potential that he could be a problem down the road? I think you know the answer.

Potential problem? Kid attended 3 high schools. Won't go into the accusations against him, but it's not hard to search them out on the internet. His mom also has a reputation, too. And this also was before coming to UT. I guess you could argue that those things were in the past and everyone deserves a second chance and a fresh start, but Heupel had to have known about the kids history and he obviously met the family so he chose to roll the dice anyway.

While Nico might not have had the checkered history of Carter, I'll never be convinced that Heupel never got a whiff that Nico's pop was all about the money. With all the catering and flights they did to keep that bunch happy, did Heupel really think there would be a point that they would be satisfied? Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one counselor.

Bottom line...Heupel knew full well what he was getting into with both these recruits. He bet on himself that he could manage the situation to a successful outcome. Didn't work out with Nico. Hoping it does with Carter. I don't disagree that most high level coaches will roll the dice with talents like those two. I don't blame him for that, but Heupel does have to own it. Perhaps he should think twice before going down that same road in the future? Like I said, the buck stops with Heupel. And while baseball is different, human nature is human nature. Vitello saw what a sour apple can do to a locker room and took a different path. After Banks, I'd have thought Heupel would, too.

 

[Delmar]

Said it before and I’ll say it again. If Josh and the players are satisfied that Boo has learned some things and is willing to conform to TEAM requirements and not ME requirements then I think it’s the right decision. But I’ll bet dollars to donuts that he’s on a short leash. I doubt there will be much leniency if it happens again. And as one poster said, he’ll probably be in the portal after this season anyway. He’s pushed the envelope twice now and I don’t see it working long term. If he could have left, he probably would have but the timing isn’t there.

 

[JCHateSteve]

People are so obsessed with fitting everything into a narrative. We’re dealing with 18-22 year olds that have leverage for the first time in their lives. It’s a giant goat rodeo for everybody.

I'm stealing "Giant Goat Rodeo" for my "Traveling Wilbury's" cover band.

 

[Delmar]

Potential problem? Kid attended 3 high schools. Won't go into the accusations against him, but it's not hard to search them out on the internet. His mom also has a reputation, too. And this also was before coming to UT. I guess you could argue that those things were in the past and everyone deserves a second chance and a fresh start, but Heupel had to have known about the kids history and he obviously met the family so he chose to roll the dice anyway.

While Nico might not have had the checkered history of Carter, I'll never be convinced that Heupel never got a whiff that Nico's pop was all about the money. With all the catering and flights they did to keep that bunch happy, did Heupel really think there would be a point that they would be satisfied? Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one counselor.

Bottom line...Heupel knew full well what he was getting into with both these recruits. He bet on himself that he could manage the situation to a successful outcome. Didn't work out with Nico. Hoping it does with Carter. I don't disagree that most high level coaches will roll the dice with talents like those two. I don't blame him for that, but Heupel does have to own it. Perhaps he should think twice before going down that same road in the future? Like I said, the buck stops with Heupel. And while baseball is different, human nature is human nature. Vitello saw what a sour apple can do to a locker room and took a different path. After Banks, I'd have thought Heupel would, too.

It worked out with Nico the way it should have. Nico and Daddy tried to hold UT hostage and they got the FAFO treatment. Cost them a couple of million dollars.

I don’t fault Josh for recruiting either one of them and I don’t fault how he has handled either one. I’m certain he knew what he was getting with both families. Won’t be the last prima donna that he has to recruit. Some are going to be problems. Sometimes they’ll work out and some won’t. Just the way it is in today’s climate. Money and open transfers have just made it tougher.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

Imagine having 100 18-21 yr old sons?

It would be a fun 3 years making them

 

[NighthawkVol]

Potential problem? Kid attended 3 high schools. Won't go into the accusations against him, but it's not hard to search them out on the internet. His mom also has a reputation, too. And this also was before coming to UT. I guess you could argue that those things were in the past and everyone deserves a second chance and a fresh start, but Heupel had to have known about the kids history and he obviously met the family so he chose to roll the dice anyway.

While Nico might not have had the checkered history of Carter, I'll never be convinced that Heupel never got a whiff that Nico's pop was all about the money. With all the catering and flights they did to keep that bunch happy, did Heupel really think there would be a point that they would be satisfied? Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one counselor.

Bottom line...Heupel knew full well what he was getting into with both these recruits. He bet on himself that he could manage the situation to a successful outcome. Didn't work out with Nico. Hoping it does with Carter. I don't disagree that most high level coaches will roll the dice with talents like those two. I don't blame him for that, but Heupel does have to own it. Perhaps he should think twice before going down that same road in the future? Like I said, the buck stops with Heupel. And while baseball is different, human nature is human nature. Vitello saw what a sour apple can do to a locker room and took a different path. After Banks, I'd have thought Heupel would, too.

How does he "own it"? Is there a formal declaration? And if he doesn't "own" it, what happens? That just seems like a nebulous declaration on your part..."I'm not blaming him for doing what any high level coach would do, but if it doesn't work out, he owes me this undefined thing I'll call 'owning it.'"

If it doesn't work out, Tennessee loses a talented player. That's the consequence. At that point, Heupel should move on and not look back because he's in charge of something much bigger than one player.