Boo Carter rumors from Basilio

[GUNTERSVOL]

We NEVER know much.

We knew little about Nico other than what was reported AND that it didn't go away.

Sometimes we hear that there was an issue and Heupel appears and clears it up straight away with a "we handled that internally" and it goes away.

Heupel didn't clear this up and he could've if there was a clear ass chewing end to it already. That would have made it disappear. He didn't.

Why didn't he just say, "We've got this. It's handled?" I can't say why with certainty but that would've been the best thing for the program and it didn't happen.

Could be it is still a work in progress, that could go either way. POTENTIALLY Boo has been tasked to make it right before X, and it could involve multiple time intensive acts. So it is very possible we are not yet at the end game. May not be light switch simplistic. Non-compliance centric.

Coach may have a preferred timeline IF an exit is his preference. Being allowed on the practice field and being allowed in games are two different things. Taking his schollie vs creating displeasure to a level he will quit are also two different things with probable financial implications. Irrational ill timed responses could have their costs.

As character driven as our staff is it seems like it will be a tough road. But if he meets it, so be it. Don’t see a free pass in the works. But I have no more FACTS than have been shared in here and a few radio shows in the car. Need a validated list to get cocky. Expect some leakage from both sides real soon and continuing till conclusion.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

I can tell you’ve never played organized sports considering how easily you are excusing Boo’s behavior for missing workouts while the rest of the team is busting their ass and showing up and doing what is expected of them. Quit making excuses for someone who is likely making more money annually than a significant portion of this fanbase and who is failing to live up to his promises.

Why are you so pissed at him? We don't even know the whole story. Maybe with all that money he thinks he's exempt from these July team meetings. And maybe he is.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Could be it is still a work in progress, that could go either way. POTENTIALLY Boo has been tasked to make it right before X, and it could involve multiple time intensive acts. So it is very possible we are not yet at the end game. May not be light switch simplistic. Non-compliance centric.

Coach may have a preferred timeline IF an exit is his preference. Being allowed on the practice field and being allowed in games are two different things. Taking his schollie vs creating displeasure to a level he will quit are also two different things with probable financial implications. Irrational ill timed responses could have their costs.

As character driven as our staff is it seems like it will be a tough road. But if he meets it, so be it. Don’t see a free pass in the works. But I have no more FACTS than have been shared in here and a few radio shows in the car. Need a validated list to get cocky. Expect some leakage from both sides real soon and continuing till conclusion.

I'm coming around to that idea. I don't know the difference between dismissal and him leaving on his own. That may be a piece of this or may not.

The BYU QB apparently was going to be suspended for several games instead of dismissed and that forced him to withdraw and walk on at Tulane instead of getting a "free" transfer because of dismissal.

Perhaps that's the plan UT has: announce a multi game suspension for Boo so he wants to leave and make him walk on elsewhere. If that's the plan, the longer they wait to announce it, the harder it is for Boo to find a spot. Perhaps that's not the plan and dismissal vs withdrawal makes no difference.

Someone here may know, I don't.

 

[wmcovol]

I'm coming around to that idea. I don't know the difference between dismissal and him leaving on his own. That may be a piece of this or may not.

The BYU QB apparently was going to be suspended for several games instead of dismissed and that forced him to withdraw and walk on at Tulane instead of getting a "free" transfer because of dismissal.

Perhaps that's the plan UT has: announce a multi game suspension for Boo so he wants to leave and make him walk on elsewhere. If that's the plan, the longer they wait to announce it, the harder it is for Boo to find a spot. Perhaps that's not the plan and dismissal vs withdrawal makes no difference.

Someone here may know, I don't.

You’ve got it.

White & Heupel know the rules. We don’t. Trust them with the way this is being handled.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I mean, did you see him play as a true freshman? He's electric

No doubt but I can’t say he is one of our best players yet

 

[purp]

No dog in this fight, (I know Berry was still there) but give me Janzen Jackson. Shame he couldn’t keep his head on straight. Huge waste of talent.

I'll always remember that Florida hit.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

So he should be kicked off the team for missing "activities." Not a game, not practice. And we don't know his reason for missing or any details. Like I said, if that's all this is, give him his ass chewing, suspend him the first game if necessary, and we move on. You don't kick one of your best players off the team for missing "activities." We've had kids engage in criminal activity and keep their spot.

You remember when Boo was flirting with Colorado and got a raise? Well guess what? Team activities are part of the job. If everyone else can make these same activities then Boo has no excuse for missing them.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

Why are you so pissed at him? We don't even know the whole story. Maybe with all that money he thinks he's exempt from these July team meetings. And maybe he is.

Ummm, what?

 

[vavolfan6]

Boo is a really good player. He deserves special treatment. Just try and pretend like we held him accountable. But most if all we need him on the team and need him on defense. We can't run off every player who steps out of line. We already lost Jakobe Thomas to Miami. Let's keep what we have. We already did our part by standing up to Nico.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

No doubt but I can’t say he is one of our best players yet

Was he not one of our few All SEC preseason guys?

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Why are you so pissed at him? We don't even know the whole story. Maybe with all that money he thinks he's exempt from these July team meetings. And maybe he is.

Hahahahahah, yeah okay. You are absolutely naive if you believe Heupel picks certain players that he likes more and excuses them from team meetings because they make more money while everyone else is expected to attend or be punished. Again, none of this is getting reported in the news if these are excused absences. If that was the case, it’s a non-story and it’s not being talked about.

 

[DaddyChad]

Boo is a really good player. He deserves special treatment. Just try and pretend like we held him accountable. But most if all we need him on the team and need him on defense. We can't run off every player who steps out of line. We already lost Jakobe Thomas to Miami. Let's keep what we have. We already did our part by standing up to Nico.

Good way to lose the entire locker room. You’ll lose more game with one entitled really talented player and the rest of the locker room divided than you will without that player and with a united lockerroom

 

[sonofUT62]

He was the best true freshman DB I've seen since EB. Name a better one. You can't because true freshman DBs don't see the field unless they are elite.

Cameron Sutton.

 

[volfan411]

I agree but once again we're talking about allegedly missing team meetings. You think he should be kicked off the team for missing team meetings?

I think it is more than team meetings it was workouts that all of his teammates did to prepare themselves for the upcoming season. So you think it is fair his teammates spent their summer working out and preparing for the season while Boo spent his time on the California coast??

I agree we need to let CJH but don’t downplay what his actions must has done to the team chemistry.

 

[volfan411]

Hahahahahah, yeah okay. You are absolutely naive if you believe Heupel picks certain players that he likes more and excuses them from team meetings because they make more money while everyone else is expected to attend or be punished. Again, none of this is getting reported in the news if these are excused absences. If that was the case, it’s a non-story and it’s not being talked about.

Agreed if it was a non story CJH would have addressed by now.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Good way to lose the entire locker room. You’ll lose more game with one entitled really talented player and the rest of the locker room divided than you will without that player and with a united lockerroom

Coaches always have to weigh the pros and cons when dealing with players like this. Fulmer and Majors had their fair share of talented players that were difficult. Some were dismissed while others were tolerated. Winning games is the ultimate goal. Hopefully this situation gets resolved and the team is ready for a great upcoming season.

 

[OrangeInKy]

I'm really starting to lose my passion for this sport

I lost count of how many times we have seen "the end of college football as we know it"

 

[OrangeInKy]

Good way to lose the entire locker room. You’ll lose more game with one entitled really talented player and the rest of the locker room divided than you will without that player and with a united lockerroom

Bingo.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Boo is a really good player. He deserves special treatment. Just try and pretend like we held him accountable. But most if all we need him on the team and need him on defense. We can't run off every player who steps out of line. We already lost Jakobe Thomas to Miami. Let's keep what we have. We already did our part by standing up to Nico.

In the long game, I strongly disagree. You build a culture that demands respect for the team even if it means letting guys like Nico and Boo leave.

Will it hurt our season? Almost certainly, IMO. Losing Nico and Boo isn't at all how I'd wanted this year to go.

Overall, Heupel gained universal respect for not caving to Nico over money and I believe, if this issue is related to a player respecting the work and his teammates, Heupel will gain respect for this also.

It's not about this year, it's about this team in the following years.

 

[OrangeInKy]

sounds like callahan

But he also said these new brake pads are really cool

 

[CAVPUT]

You just don’t like him and always a negative Nancy and that’s me trying to use nice words. If he kicks him off or keeps him, you will have a negative take on who’s been the best coach we’ve had in decades. You are the one whose posts suck. Trying to not get a freak email here.

 

[Carp]

So he should be kicked off the team for missing "activities." Not a game, not practice. And we don't know his reason for missing or any details. Like I said, if that's all this is, give him his ass chewing, suspend him the first game if necessary, and we move on. You don't kick one of your best players off the team for missing "activities." We've had kids engage in criminal activity and keep their spot.

We talking about practice. Not a game. We talking about practice. Not the game that Boo goes out there and dies for and plays every game like it's his last. Not the game. We talking about practice, man.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Boo is a really good player. He deserves special treatment. Just try and pretend like we held him accountable. But most if all we need him on the team and need him on defense. We can't run off every player who steps out of line. We already lost Jakobe Thomas to Miami. Let's keep what we have. We already did our part by standing up to Nico.

LOL, yeah that’ll show the team.

The hell with everybody else as long as Boo is happy.

Some of you guys should hear yourself right now.

 

[DaddyChad]

Coaches always have to weigh the pros and cons when dealing with players like this. Fulmer and Majors had their fair share of talented players that were difficult. Some were dismissed while others were tolerated. Winning games is the ultimate goal. Hopefully this situation gets resolved and the team is ready for a great upcoming season.

Team will forgive some idiocy but it has its limits. Also depends on how invested they think a guy was before he lost his way.

 

[DaddyChad]

LOL, yeah that’ll show the team.

The hell with everybody else as long as Boo is happy.

Some of you guys should hear yourself right now.

Dooley pulled that crap and lost the team bc of it.