Bombs found at Clinton and Soros Homes

[1972 Grad]

Just goes to show that we think there is no level to which the Democratic Party won't go. The end justifies the means with them.

 

[0nelilreb]

Nope

Who did ?

 

[luthervol]

Sure, if you want to make a classification fallacy, you could say that the alcohol shares some "blame", as the alcohol was a contributing factor. But since alcohol has no will, it would probably be a stretch to "blame" it, thus the class fallacy you're trying to use to save face.

To say that Trump is a contributing factor is to attribute responsibility. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too, and thus you sound like an idiot. Say what you want to say. Don't be a pansy. Own it.

How absurd, You're hysterical. Try this one....I saw it last night. Two guys are looking like they are about to fight. Some students grab their phones and start chanting "fight, fight, fight", once the fight starts they cheer instead of break it up. Should any blame fall on the shoulders of those students?

 

[Hunerwadel]

Who did ?

It wasn't Obama, please point out any speech or interview where Obama prompted this kind of behavior. I'm no Obama fan and didn't vote for him. While many Americans hated Obama he never pushed any agenda of violence or hate toward others.

 

[0nelilreb]

How absurd, You're hysterical. Try this one....I saw it last night. Two guys are looking like they are about to fight. Some students grab their phones and start chanting "fight, fight, fight", once the fight starts they cheer instead of break it up. Should any blame fall on the shoulders of those students?

It’s about to rain , the kids around you say you should go outside and stand in it , you go out and get wet . Do you blame the rain , the kids , or do you just say I knew not to do that and I’m an idiot for listening to them and ignoring what I knew would get me wet .

 

[Mick]

8 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue

 

[0nelilreb]

It wasn't Obama, please point out any speech or interview where Obama prompted this kind of behavior. I'm no Obama fan and didn't vote for him. While many Americans hated Obama he never pushed any agenda of violence or hate toward others.

Can you explain why the riots have stopped , why with such a divisive , racists and sexist president spewing hate 24/7 and America being horribly tribalistic that we don’t see this now but did with the last one ?

 

[Vol_Doc]

Or maybe the rhetoric of his intended targets.

Or both. But, yes, your point is taken.

 

[Vol_Doc]

That's a cop out. It's like lighting a fuse and blaming the dynamite for exploding.

So, are violent video game developers responsible for the Columbine shootings? Where does individual responsibility stop?

 

[n_huffhines]

So you're saying taxation without representation wasn't one of the major causes of the Revolution?

Wtf

 

[Orange_Crush]

How absurd, You're hysterical. Try this one....I saw it last night. Two guys are looking like they are about to fight. Some students grab their phones and start chanting "fight, fight, fight", once the fight starts they cheer instead of break it up. Should any blame fall on the shoulders of those students?

Without knowing the internal thoughts of the two guys, I can't really say. I can say, if the taunts were a contributing factor to the fight, the taunters bore blame in the fight as... And I repeat...

Blame: assign responsibility for a fault or wrong.

If they were a contributing factor, they bear some responsibility, thus by definition, they bear some blame.

English isn't hard, luther.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Just goes to show that we think there is no level to which the Democratic Party won't go. The end justifies the means with them.

I'm not sure I'd say that all Dems live by that ethic, but @luthervol has definitely admitted to being the Monster in the Mirror.

(I'm still awaiting his return to the Kavanaugh thread to answer the Christian ethical questions posed to him. He had some takeaways still on his plate that his wikipedia education failed him on.)

 

[Hunerwadel]

Can you explain why the riots have stopped , why with such a divisive , racists and sexist president spewing hate 24/7 and America being horribly tribalistic that we don’t see this now but did with the last one ?

Again, show me any interview or speech where Obama encouraged this kind of behavior.

The fuse that usually set off riots while Obama was in office was a police officer shooting a black person sometimes even when the shooting was clearly justified.

 

[0nelilreb]

So, are violent video game developers responsible for the Columbine shootings? Where does individual responsibility stop?

Hollywood is a prime example of this , they churn out violent movies with every type of weapon you can think of and every type of sexual content then proceed to lecture us on guns , try to remove our gun rights and tell us how violence is wrong and how conservatives are evil for supporting horrible organizations like the NRA . If I didn’t know any better I would think they are a bunch of hypocrites just wanting to make as much money as possible and live by the old addage “ don’t do as I do , do as I say “

 

[0nelilreb]

Again, show me any interview or speech where Obama encouraged this kind of behavior.

The fuse that usually set off riots while Obama was in office was a police officer shooting a black person sometimes even when the shooting was clearly justified.

Riots happen and are caused by civil unrest , usually from government polices , actions , inaction or just the general attitudes of its leaders . Again can you explain why when we had the “ Great Uniter “ in office we had them on the regular but now that we have the “ Great Divider “ that stands behind Leo’s we don’t ?

 

[theFallGuy]

This is what I was asking earlier and haven't seen answered. How long has he been unhinged? How long has he been politically fringe?

Where do you see that he's been making bomb threats since '02?

Thx

He threatened to blow up a utility company. Look towards the bottom of the story.
Suspected mail bomber identified as Cesar Altier Sayoc | Daily Mail Online

 

[Hunerwadel]

So, are violent video game developers responsible for the Columbine shootings? Where does individual responsibility stop?

I don't know about Columbine in particular but IMO video game producers can contribute to violent actions in some people even though it is not their intent. It is also my opinion that the Presidents rhetoric contributed the the MAGA
Bomber's actions this week. The President is the leader of the country and is apparently too stupid to understand the effects of his actions and words.

 

[Obsessed]

I don't know about Columbine in particular but IMO video game producers can contribute to violent actions in some people even though it is not their intent. It is also my opinion that the Presidents rhetoric contributed the the MAGA bombers actions this week. The President is the leader of the country and is apparently too stupid to understand the effects of his actions and words.

I’m sorry. But did the fake bomber admit to these things?
Forgive me if his quotes have already been posted.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Again, show me any interview or speech where Obama encouraged this kind of behavior.

The fuse that usually set off riots while Obama was in office was a police officer shooting a black person sometimes even when the shooting was clearly justified.

Can you let us know what your definition of "encourage" is, so we can have an accurate comparison? Can you show us an example where you consider Trump to have encouraged pipe bombs?

 

[Weezer]

You mean like running over people in Charlottesville or sending pipe bombs?

Oh wait.

Sending pipe bombs is an act of terrorism by a crazy individual, not a protest, so no, not like that.

As for Charlottesville, yes, the furthest extreme was reached by a right-wing loon, but both sides had a hand in escalating the situation. Lots of blame to go around there, so acting as if the left is guiltless is just not a feasible argument. If violence had not erupted from BOTH sides, I would guess the extreme would never have been reached.

Watch almost any protest the left has conducted in the last couple of years and you see less peaceful protest and more vitriol-filled temper tantrum. I'm not sure what they think that accomplishes?

 

[Orange_Crush]

I don't know about Columbine in particular but IMO video game producers can contribute to violent actions in some people even though it is not their intent. It is also my opinion that the Presidents rhetoric contributed the the MAGA
Bomber's actions this week. The President is the leader of the country and is apparently too stupid to understand the effects of his actions and words.

Again... Can you please give us specific actions/interviews where Trump contributed to the bombs being mailed? It will be interesting to understand specifically why you find him partially culpable.

 

[Vol_Doc]

I don't know about Columbine in particular but IMO video game producers can contribute to violent actions in some people even though it is not their intent. It is also my opinion that the Presidents rhetoric contributed the the MAGA
Bomber's actions this week. The President is the leader of the country and is apparently too stupid to understand the effects of his actions and words.

So, are you a determinist?

 

[Weezer]

I just find it funny because you complain about how the "dims" are mean and bitter while you name call and hurl insults. For 24 hours I watched the Republicans and fox news folks talk about the bomb scare being a massive conspiracy by the"dims" because they were too stupid to create a working bomb. Now it's one crazy and you cannot attribute his actions to all Republicans.

I never thought you could, but I can certainly think less of Republicans for the way they acted prior to the arrest.

No doubt, hypocrisy is strong on both sides of the aisle. Funny how each side likes to point out the other's hypocrisy while defending their own. It's sad.

 

[hUTch2002]

Trump does share some blame. He sets the table for the likes of this guy and other Right wing haters.

Then the left and MSM also shares in the blame because they set the table using that logic. Why can’t it just be that this dude is nuts all on his own? He and he alone is responsible for his actions.

 

[volbeast33]

How absurd, You're hysterical. Try this one....I saw it last night. Two guys are looking like they are about to fight. Some students grab their phones and start chanting "fight, fight, fight", once the fight starts they cheer instead of break it up. Should any blame fall on the shoulders of those students?

Nope no blame on the students