Bombs found at Clinton and Soros Homes

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Well you know because of Trump he did a.l of this. There is no personal accountability in todays weak society. Everyone else is to blame. Like this situation. The guy is a so called Trump supporter, well that means its Trumps fault. Not the person who actually did it. Everything bad in the world is Trumps fault now.
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I don't know anyone blaming Trump. They are only saying he is an undeniable contributing factor.
It's like when a person does something stupid when they're drunk or in some drug induced craze. It's not the alcohol's fault or the crack's fault, but they're certainly contributing factors. Trump is like crack: makes already crazy people even crazier. The worst part is that he keeps knowingly pushing a harmful drug with the desired result of creating as many addicts as possible. He's the living embodiment of the political equivalent to the opioid crisis.
 
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luthervol said:
I don't know anyone blaming Trump. They are only saying he is an undeniable contributing factor.
It's like when a person does something stupid when they're drunk or in some drug induced craze. It's not the alcohol's fault or the crack's fault, but they're certainly contributing factors. Trump is like crack: makes already crazy people even crazier. The worst part is that he keeps knowingly pushing a harmful drug with the desired result of creating as many addicts as possible. He's the living embodiment of the political equivalent to the opioid crisis.
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That's blame, Einstein.

Blame: assign responsibility for a fault or wrong.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
My first post did not blame "righties." It said that I was told only liberals were crazy. I blamed no collective group.
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Just yesterday you proceeded to say all republicans are white nationalists that hate everyone that disagrees with them. Then when I responded to your original post, you doubled down and said that was your intent.

So was yesterday's response just one fueled by emotion from your news feed and photos showing the suspect's vehicle with pro Trump and anti-liberal messages?

Seems your intent was to connect all conservatives, independents and the far right to the suspect, saying we are all responsible.
 
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ETV said:
Just yesterday you proceeded to say all republicans are white nationalists that hate everyone that disagrees with them. Then when I responded to your original post, you doubled down and said that was your intent.

So was yesterday's response just one fueled by emotion from your news feed and photos showing the suspect's vehicle with pro Trump and anti-liberal messages?
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I said what I intended to say, but my intent was sarcasm. I think quite few posters on here understood that. I also think I explained myself.
 
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luthervol said:
Like blaming the alcohol for a car accident when the driver is drunk?
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Sure, if you want to make a classification fallacy, you could say that the alcohol shares some "blame", as the alcohol was a contributing factor. But since alcohol has no will, it would probably be a stretch to "blame" it, thus the class fallacy you're trying to use to save face.

To say that Trump is a contributing factor is to attribute responsibility. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too, and thus you sound like an idiot. Say what you want to say. Don't be a pansy. Own it.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Sure, if you want to make a classification fallacy, you could say that the alcohol shares some "blame", as the alcohol was a contributing factor. But since alcohol has no will, it would probably be a stretch to "blame" it, thus the class fallacy you're trying to use to save face.

To say that Trump is a contributing factor is to attribute responsibility. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too, and thus you sound like an idiot. Say what you want to say. Don't be a pansy. Own it.
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He can’t help himself, the very station he idolizes preaches Trump hatred 24/7 and continues to spew leftist BS # Walkaway 👍👍
 
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luthervol said:
I don't know anyone blaming Trump. They are only saying he is an undeniable contributing factor.
It's like when a person does something stupid when they're drunk or in some drug induced craze. It's not the alcohol's fault or the crack's fault, but they're certainly contributing factors. Trump is like crack: makes already crazy people even crazier. The worst part is that he keeps knowingly pushing a harmful drug with the desired result of creating as many addicts as possible. He's the living embodiment of the political equivalent to the opioid crisis.
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Interesting thought process here. How about a gun in a mass shooting?
 
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Vol_Doc said:
I would instead say that in the mind of this disturbed individual, Trump's rhetoric validated his preexisting ideas and his eventual actions. The blame still lays on the individual.
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Vol_Doc said:
I would instead say that in the mind of this disturbed individual, Trump's rhetoric validated his preexisting ideas and his eventual actions. The blame still lays on the individual.
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That's a cop out. It's like lighting a fuse and blaming the dynamite for exploding.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Conspiracy theory was wrong. Shocking
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Hunerwadel said:
That's a cop out. It's like lighting a fuse and blaming the dynamite for exploding.
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It actually isn't much like that at all. You are making the same classification fallacy that luther did. Trump may very well be responsible, but you won't prove it with fallacious arguments.
 
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