Bobby Petrino could bolt from Louisville

If UT Football stoops so low that they hire Bobby Petrino, then I will tap out as a fan until he is gone. Gosh, we have to have some sort of sense of pride in the team that we root for. That guy is everything that I work to make sure that my children never become in life. Winning aint that important IMO.

Go follow Butch to whichever mediocre program he ends up at next. Tennessee is a top 10 school and that's what we expect. Yes, winning is important to a lot of us. Petrino is not my first choice, but I definitely wouldn't be opposed to hiring him just because of a dumb scandal in which he has most certainly learned his lesson. Move on, everyone else has.
 
Even just for coaching, Petrino to me is a guy who can win 10 games, put up some exciting 56-48 scores, has no defense, and loses to most (if not all) real contenders. I hear and understand the argument that it was because he was at Louisville and Arkansas, but he's a slightly better Mike Leach to me. Add in that he's a horrible person and leaves most of his stops in flames, and I'll pass.
 
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Again, the Hogs will NEVER finish at the top of the conference in recruiting. They only finished in the top half of the conference twice, once under Nutt and once under Petrino. Petrino led them to two 21st ranked recruiting classes which are the top two classes Arkansas has ever had. When you are an up and coming elite coach you are going to progressively move to better and better jobs every few years. Talking to someone and actually going there are very different things. Coaches (or any employee for that matter) often will talk to other schools just to get raises at their current schools. I don't necessarily disagree that he may be a sleazeball, that is debatable and I also think Kelly would be a better option but if you want a 'homerun' hire and define 'homerun' by wins and losses I would put Kelly/Petrino as 1/2.

Arkansas ranked on average, 7th in the conference in recruiting since 2002. In 2 of the 4 classes Petrino signed, they were 10th and 12th in the conference. I acknowledged that Arkansas will never be a recruiting powerhouse, but they are a respectable program historically. They aren't Vandy or Kentucky, and while I personally don't like them, to try and compare them to those type of programs is disingenuous. Hiring him to me is akin to hiring Lane Kiffin. It would set our program back AGAIN, and I personally would like to move forward for once.
 
Petrino's agent was calling schools yesterday to gauge interest. Jurich was his only ally at UL and he's looking to bail. Not my words. It was said on the radio by someone who would know.
 
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When is the last time Petrino played for a title? What has he accomplished that Richt hasn't?

Quote from Petrino:
"Hey now I had a conference title in 06.......I also have 4 10 to 10+ seasons in my career...........now I know everyone thinks it has been much better...........but hey let them think that way."
 
Your opinion is that he'd win the SEC East every year, based on the fact that he won the SEC West a total of 0 times. That's a pretty rosy prediction for him

He almost beat KY last year, so surely would have Tennessee winning the East every year. Petrino has 2 conference titles in like 12 years.........he is DUE.
 
I will give him this. He does seem to manage his talent better than we have seen Butch do the past few years. Not to mention having a Heisman winner. I am not saying he would have us winning NC's year 1. Although I think he is a much better game/locker room manager than we currently have. Now that being said I still hate the guy for his deal with the Falcons.
 
Arkansas ranked on average, 7th in the conference in recruiting since 2002. In 2 of the 4 classes Petrino signed, they were 10th and 12th in the conference. I acknowledged that Arkansas will never be a recruiting powerhouse, but they are a respectable program historically. They aren't Vandy or Kentucky, and while I personally don't like them, to try and compare them to those type of programs is disingenuous. Hiring him to me is akin to hiring Lane Kiffin. It would set our program back AGAIN, and I personally would like to move forward for once.

According to 247 the Hogs have averaged about 9th in the conference (8.8) over the last 14 years. In that time span they have only finished 7th once and 5th once. Regardless, of where they finished I think we should all be able to agree that Petrino did better on average than his predecessor and successor (at least to this point) in regards to both recruiting and on field results.

I think there is much less risk of setting the program back by hiring Petrino than there is in hiring a coordinator with potential. I would be all in for a Kelly/Fuente/Franklin type hire but those guys are probably all going to come at significant expense as compared to Petrino and may not be interested in the first place as two of the three have pretty good gigs as is.
 
The lax enforcement and thumbing their nose at the NCAA by Louisville and AD Jurich and people don't think amoral heathen Petrino is equally as dirty as Pitino? Come on VN. I don't want this scumbag anywhere near Knoxville.
 
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The lax enforcement and thumbing their nose at the NCAA by Louisville and AD Jurich and people don't think amoral heathen Petrino is equally as dirty as Pitino? Come on VN. I don't want this scumbag anywhere near Knoxville.

It's like some people are jedi mind tricked or something. Petrino is literally one of the worst ideas I've seen yet. And that's saying something.
 
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https://www.seccountry.com/kentucky...oach-bobby-petrino-will-bail-football-program
The FBI investigation into college basketball that was revealed on Tuesday night led to the firing of Louisville coach Rick Pitino and athletic director Tom Jurich only a matter of hours later on Wednesday morning.

Now, some are wondering whether the calamity will push football coach Bobby Petrino out the door.

“Will Petrino bail? In my mind, he will,” Finebaum said. “I’ve spoken to people today who believe that he will get out as soon as he can. Believe it or not, in spite of his past, he will find some places to go, perhaps not all that far away.”

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Finebaum’s insinuation that Petrino could make a return to the SEC has been talked about for some time. It’s now picked up steam with the Cardinals’ situation and a head coaching vacancy, or two, possibly opening up in the SEC in the near future.

It’s also worth noting that Petrino’s buyout, once at $8.5 million, has been cut in half to $4.25 million due to Jurich’s firing.

Petrino is in his second stint as head coach at Louisville, leading the team from 2003-06 before coaching Arkansas from 2008-11. He compiled a 34-17 mark with the Razorbacks, who increased their win total each year under his guidance: 2008 (5 wins), 2009 (8 wins), 2010 (10 wins) and 2011 (11 wins).

Since then, Petrino’s return to Louisville has produced 8 or 9 wins in each of his three previous seasons as well as the 2016 Heisman Trophy winner, QB Lamar Jackson.


For those wanting Petrino He might be on the market soon, I don't think he would leave in the middle of the Season though.



I like him his teams are well coached and he's kept his nose clean for 4 years now....he played bama to bone quite a bit with half talent we have on roster....alot people will disagree but he wins period. We need make a move for replacement this year while we have alot of talent for new coach to start with and still have pretty positive outlook nationally. To wait would be harder to overcome the longer we hold out....just my opinion
 
I still support Jones fully.

That said, if Jones goes - I just dont think the university can take a chance on a guy like this after going through so much heartache the last 10 years on the coaching front. Risk is too great for a new AD IMO.

I opened the thread assuming we could talk about Petrino as an OC. That would be pretty darn potent, and he wouldn't be able to wreck the whole program with his shenanigans, he'd have to clear off-field contacts with Butch, who if nothing else runs a tight ship in that department I believe.
 
It's like some people are jedi mind tricked or something. Petrino is literally one of the worst ideas I've seen yet. And that's saying something.

Agree

Not to mention that he really has not done a lot to begin with. Two conference titles, 4 10+ win seasons (ever). He certainly is not a bad coach.....but I think many just hear the NAME and associate it with tremendous success without finding out how much success he really had.
 
Agree

Not to mention that he really has not done a lot to begin with. Two conference titles, 4 10+ win seasons (ever). He certainly is not a bad coach.....but I think many just hear the NAME and associate it with tremendous success without finding out how much success he really had.

Just out of curiosity who would be your top 2 or 3 choices should we end up needing a coach? If a guy who has coached his teams, who are not perennial powerhouses by any stretch, to three conference titles (you missed one) and multiple 10 win seasons (and could easily go 11-1/10-2 this year as they will probably be favored in every remaining game) has 'not done a lot' then who has?
 
According to 247 the Hogs have averaged about 9th in the conference (8.8) over the last 14 years. In that time span they have only finished 7th once and 5th once. Regardless, of where they finished I think we should all be able to agree that Petrino did better on average than his predecessor and successor (at least to this point) in regards to both recruiting and on field results.

I think there is much less risk of setting the program back by hiring Petrino than there is in hiring a coordinator with potential. I would be all in for a Kelly/Fuente/Franklin type hire but those guys are probably all going to come at significant expense as compared to Petrino and may not be interested in the first place as two of the three have pretty good gigs as is.


I got my recruiting information from Rivals and ESPN. I know a lot of people here like 247 rankings because they tend to be a little more generous in bumping our recruits up, but I find the others to be more accurate. As far as on the field results, yeah he had 2 good seasons. 2012 wasn't going to be a repeat based on what was left talent wise though because he let things slide badly in 2010-11 on the recruiting trail. That's why he was entertaining Louisville behind Arkansas' back prior to the accident. Even the local sports radio guys here that still pine for Petrino admit that. He knows when to cut and run. I guess I am old school in the thinking that we need a coach that will be around for more than 4-5 years, is an above average recruiter, has a proven long term record of success, a resume that doesn't contain many spurned former employers, and actually has some kind of understanding and respect for the greatness that is Tennessee football. Not some skeezy used car salesman that will sell you a load of crap and then disappear when things go South.
 
I will give him this. He does seem to manage his talent better than we have seen Butch do the past few years. Not to mention having a Heisman winner. I am not saying he would have us winning NC's year 1. Although I think he is a much better game/locker room manager than we currently have. Now that being said I still hate the guy for his deal with the Falcons.

History would repeat itself. He would do well. Probably win 10 games a few years in a row. Then if you're lucky and he hasn't been caught doing anything stupid he will run away to another job. UL did a ton to cover up his dirty business. I'm not so sure he would last long at a big school that actually cares about reputation.
 
I got my recruiting information from Rivals and ESPN. I know a lot of people here like 247 rankings because they tend to be a little more generous in bumping our recruits up, but I find the others to be more accurate. As far as on the field results, yeah he had 2 good seasons. 2012 wasn't going to be a repeat based on what was left talent wise though because he let things slide badly in 2010-11 on the recruiting trail. That's why he was entertaining Louisville behind Arkansas' back prior to the accident. Even the local sports radio guys here that still pine for Petrino admit that. He knows when to cut and run. I guess I am old school in the thinking that we need a coach that will be around for more than 4-5 years, is an above average recruiter, has a proven long term record of success, a resume that doesn't contain many spurned former employers, and actually has some kind of understanding and respect for the greatness that is Tennessee football. Not some skeezy used car salesman that will sell you a load of crap and then disappear when things go South.

Those are 247 composite rankings which take into account all of the major recruiting services records. He did have a down year in 2010 recruiting wise but that class was sandwiched between the best two recruiting classes that Arkansas had ever had so I bet his on field product would have still been pretty strong. I would argue of all of the requirements that you listed are met except he may be a bit skeezy. I think we are going to have to agree to disagree. :)
 
It's like some people are jedi mind tricked or something. Petrino is literally one of the worst ideas I've seen yet. And that's saying something.

Yep. He can bolt from Louisville, I don't care as long as his azz doesn't stop here.


I can't fathom firing Jones for some idiot like Petrino.
 
Just out of curiosity who would be your top 2 or 3 choices should we end up needing a coach? If a guy who has coached his teams, who are not perennial powerhouses by any stretch, to three conference titles (you missed one) and multiple 10 win seasons (and could easily go 11-1/10-2 this year as they will probably be favored in every remaining game) has 'not done a lot' then who has?

First being tied for a division does not make one a conference winner.......epically when you don't even go the championship game.

Petrino won C USA title in 04 and a B East title in 06

Also as I have stated before 4 10 to 10+ seasons is not exactly what I think everyone thinks of when they think of Petrino.......I mean it seems like some think he is almost always 10+. Also not saying he isn't a good coach (because he is), but with the baggage, with Louisville now, and with nothing showing he would be elite......I would look elsewhere.

Franklin - prob would/maybe should not happen
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David Shaw
Stoops
Patterson
Chris Peterson
Venables
maybe even the Utah coach
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This is also bogus. The man stayed at Louisville for four years before accepting a better job at Arkansas. He stayed at Arkansas for four years before he was fired. Western for a year and then back to Louisville for the last four (which by the way probably says a little something about the guy that Louisville took him back after he left and after the scandal). Petrinos recruiting classes were also consistently better than Nutts or Bielemas. You are not going to have a top 5 recruiting class at Arkansas. This also shows that the guy did more with less. He has some character flaws no doubt but he will win. Someone in the SEC is going to pick him up. IF Butch gets canned I would rather it be us than one of our rivals.

Actually, that's not entirely correct. His career path pretty much goes as follows:

2001 - Was the OC for the Jaguars before leaving for the OC job at Auburn. Then-HC Tom Coughlin wasn't even aware the Petrino was looking at / considering the job until Auburn announced the hire publicly.

2002 - Auburn OC, left that job at year's end to become HC at Louisville.

2003 - Had interviews with boosters at Auburn about the negotiating a deal to replace the HC there both behind Louisville's back as well as behind the back of still-HC / his former boss Tommy Tubberville. He then repeatedly lies about it (even when faced with evidence from reporters of the Louisville paper that had gotten flight records showing Auburn's president and AD to pretty much have been visiting him)...until Auburn finally fesses up to the whole thing. At which point Petrino finally admits to it, claims it was a mistake he made because he was a "young coach," and begs to be forgiven. Louisville gives him a pass because they went 9-3 and "his offense blew up scoreboards."

2004 - Petrino had interviews with Notre Dame, as well as discussions with UF and Ole Miss about their jobs, before "pledging his loyalty" to Louisville in December, signing a new contract with the Cardinals Dec 21. Five days later (Dec. 26), he interviewed to replace Saban at LSU, pulling out of consideration at the start of next year (when Miles to LSU became obvious). Lousville's department started getting sick of this repeated game, but no way to really fire someone after a 12-1 season.

2005 - Petrino interviewed with the Oakland Raiders (after repeatedly telling Louisville he never had any interest in coaching in the pros). He turned down the job and professed Cardinal loyalty once again.

July 2006 - Petrino signed a 10-year contract worth up to $25 million. Afterwards, saying that Louisville was his home. (He even insisted on the $1 million buyout, saying that he did so to tell teams not to pursue him.)

January 2007 - Five months later, he left Louisville to coach the Atlanta Falcons. His players were shocked, having had no idea it would happen.

November 26 2007 - Petrino says that he isn't considering leaving the Falcons, having not given any of the college coaching vacancies a single thought.

Dec 10 2007 - 14 days later, Petrino announces he's resigning from the Falcons. He informs his team of this by a 70-word letter that he had posted in the Falcons' locker room. He's introduced as Arkansas' HC that night.


April 2012 - Motorcycle crash happens. It's discovered that not only is he having an affair with a current team assistant (and volleyball player), but that he also hired his side squeeze (possibly illegally) in a shortened 16-day interview process (30 days being the required period) over other more qualified candidates...opening up Arkansas (a state institution) to possible legal matters if he was kept. (Petrino also tries to hide her presence, asking a witness not to call 911...Arkansas eventually releases a statement saying Petrino was alone.)

April 11 2012 - Petrino's fired at Arkansas (among other things to come out between then: he lied the AD and he also paid his mistress $20,000 that she used to buy an Acura).

Dec 20 2012 - Petrino is hired by WKU for the 2013 season. He pretty much lets it be known he's not planning to stay with the program.

Jan 8 2014 - Petrino leaves WKU for Louisville.

Nov 2016 - The Wake Forest playbook scandal happens. Petrino claims he has no idea of this happening, then suspends and fires an offensive assistant coach who allegedly shared it with all the defensive coaches...meaning HC Bobby would have pretty much have had to be the only one on the whole staff that had no knowledge of it.



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Also worth some note, this has been comments by two of the programs following his departures:

2008 Cardinals AD on cleaning up Petrino's mess following his departure:

Bobby went to areas where he thought he was strong recruiting and some of them panned out and some didn't. That's the nature of it. But listen, we had to clear out a lot of discipline issues. And our numbers suffered. We cleared 21 kids out of here, and that's a lot. That's a big hit for anybody to take, Eric. I don't know anyone that has. But we want to do things the right way.


2013 SEC coach regarding the state of Arkansas cleaning up the post-Petrino mess:

They are going to be slim in a lot of spots. It's going to take them three years to get a good foundation. It's a product of bad recruiting - which is typical of a Bobby Petrino school. It's the same thing that happened at Louisville that got Steve Kragthorpe fired. Petrino didn't leave him any players. It's the same thing at Arkansas. They have no players on defense. Petrino would load up on offense and leave the cupboard bare. That's why he can't ever get over the hump.
 
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