Bob Shoop learned how to coach again

[JohnnyJava]

Through 6 games, Shoop's defenses at MSU are giving up 12.7 points and 289.7 yards per game. I think he is determined to make the case that the last two years were Butch-induced rather than an indictment of his abilities as a DC.

 

[gunner]

Through 6 games, Shoop's defenses at MSU are giving up 12.7 points and 289.7 yards per game. I think he is determined to make the case that the last two years were Butch-induced rather than an indictment of his abilities as a DC.

Amazing when Butch isn't involved isn't it?

 

[VolForLife83]

If I were Shoop and that was the case. I would have spoken up and said so

 

[LivinginthePast]

If I were Stoop and that was the case. I would have spoken up and said so

Exactly

We cursed bros

 

[volfannbama]

Exactly

We cursed bros

We aint cursed, we just make dumb decisions.

 

[grobin4300]

BUTCH was an IDIOT.... flat out and he wanted to be a CONTROL FREAK but he didn't know football: examples: Playing Hurd over Kamara and Kelly; Hurd should have been moved to TE. Not knowing how to used Dobbs until his Junior year.... Never giving Preston Williams a chance. Playing that kid at MLB (forgot his name) and on and on. Just look at how many players that was on Tenn that are in the PROS and doing well and the most Butch could do was win 9 games: Barnett, Reeves-Maybin, Sutton, J. Coleman, A. Kamara, Malone, A.J. Johnson, Maggit for a season or 2; McCullers, Dobbs, Peterman, c'mon man....

 

[LivinginthePast]

We aint cursed, we just make dumb decisions.

What part bama u in

 

[volfannbama]

What part bama u in

HSV, not by choice though.

 

[UTK]

We aint cursed, we just make dumb decisions.

We’re cursed...in that we can only make bad decisions.

 

[LivinginthePast]

HSV, not by choice though.

Me to man. Same area. I like it here

 

[thehill98]

If I were Stoop and that was the case. I would have spoken up and said so

Said so to who?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Good ol Botch Jones. I mean he turned one of the best DCs in the country into one of the worst in 2 seasons.

 

[wmcovol]

Butch isn't on campus this yr and the defense still isn't very good.

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

Exactly

We cursed bros

I see what you did there hahahaha

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

BUTCH was an IDIOT.... flat out and he wanted to be a CONTROL FREAK but he didn't know football: examples: Playing Hurd over Kamara and Kelly; Hurd should have been moved to TE. Not knowing how to used Dobbs until his Junior year.... Never giving Preston Williams a chance. Playing that kid at MLB (forgot his name) and on and on. Just look at how many players that was on Tenn that are in the PROS and doing well and the most Butch could do was win 9 games: Barnett, Reeves-Maybin, Sutton, J. Coleman, A. Kamara, Malone, A.J. Johnson, Maggit for a season or 2; McCullers, Dobbs, Peterman, c'mon man....

I believe the name you were looking for is Colton Jumper.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Butch isn't on campus this yr and the defense still isn't very good.

Lol. Nobody expected it to be. Botch will have an effect that will last for awhile.

 

[Volstar65]

Butch isn't on campus this yr and the defense still isn't very good.

A lot of the same players that had to be untaught and are not up to SEC level size and strength. Add in A lot of freshmen playing. Not trying to make excuses just think we will be better in a few years on defense. I hope.

 

[VolForLife83]

Said so to who?

Publicly in general. Can't believe yall let me get away with me saying Stoop lo

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

He never forgot how to coach defense

 

[thehill98]

Publicly in general. Can't believe yall let me get away with me saying Stoop lo

I did see that, but try not to be the grammar police, lol. But I don’t think it would’ve helped him in his next job to publicly dog his coach for hamstringing him.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Injuries and poor recruiting.

 

[Biopsyman]

Butch encourages 20 yard cushions

 

[05_never_again]

Injuries and poor recruiting.

Injuries and poor development. Recruiting was by far his best skill as a coach, and even though he was overrated at it, he wasn't a poor recruiter. Recruiting is the only reason he was able to get to 9 wins, because he sure as hell wasn't developing the talent he was recruiting.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Butch isn't on campus this yr and the defense still isn't very good.

Yeah its all Pruitts fault that the players he inherited are slow, weak, soft and undisciplined. Funny how Shoop has succeeded everywhere he has been EXCEPT his time with Botch.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Injuries and poor development. Recruiting was by far his best skill as a coach, and even though he was overrated at it, he wasn't a poor recruiter. Recruiting is the only reason he was able to get to 9 wins, because he sure as hell wasn't developing the talent he was recruiting.

I wouldnt say that Butch was a poor recruiter. He was just average. He didnt recruit many SEC level guys. His mindset was stuck in the AAC.