Bloomberg: Farmers and machinists are not too bright

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BowlBrother85 said:
There is truth to this... and can you say that you don't use anything produced by someone who either is or was of a liberal ideology? Such as Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates or Steve Jobs?
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If Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates or Steve Jobs never existed, humanity would survive.

If farmers and machinists never existed...
 
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Mike Bloomberg for years has battled women’s allegations of profane, sexist comments

Continuing his penchant for ridiculing recently married women in his employ, Bloomberg asked plaintiff, “How’s married life? You married?” Plaintiff responded that her marriage was great and was going to get better in a few months: that she was pregnant, and the baby was due the following September. He responded to her “Kill it!” Plaintiff asked Bloomberg to repeat himself, and again he said, “Kill it!” and muttered, “Great! Number 16!” suggesting to plaintiff his unhappiness that sixteen women in the Company had maternity-related status. Then he walked away.
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luthervol said:
Or it may be an indicator of how horrendously despicable Trump actually is.
In the minds of the complete economic and social spectrums.
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Luther, ever hear the one about cutting off your nose to spite your face? You are looking at Trump as a horribly disfigured facial appendage when he's actually performing a very useful function ... even if you don't understand or can't appreciate it. Liberalism rots your brains until you can't reason.
 
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Such a stupid comment, I can tell you as someone who is not a full time farmer but owns a small farm you must be all things. You fix your own mechanical issues, you build and repair your own buildings, you learn to care for your own livestock and crops. You learn how to effectively manage your land, simply put you learn to create solutions to problems. I'm not going to say the average farmer is more intelligent than someone who works in the tech industry but I'll assure you they aren't dumb and in many cases are equal in intellect.

There's a saying that country life is simple, that can mean a lot of things, it's actually hard, but it's no frills and honest. That's the only thing simple about it. Sometimes smart people say stupid things, this is definitely one of those times.
 
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Wireless1 said:
No you don’t.
If so you’d be for nuclear power, wouldn’t be so anti coal. Both are more efficient... mind you coal does require more cleanup of the exhaust gases and the solids residue.
The biggest advantage to natural gas is how easy it is....and cheap because of fracking
Electric cars make a lot of sense but the limited range reduce their practicality exclusively in the fly over states.
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Coal and especially nuclear make a lot of sense for non motive applications. There are nevertheless significant inefficiencies (losses) in power generation and transmission. Every transfer of energy from one form or one medium to another has losses ... some substantial. In a pressurized water reactor, for example, heat from fission heats water in the reactor ... there's heat transfer from the fuel to the clad and from the clad to the coolant - each with losses. The primary coolant (pressurized water water) heats secondary coolant producing steam for the turbine (same deal transmission from primary coolant to steam generator tubes to heat secondary water to steam) - most steam generators are U tube type that produce saturated steam (not nearly as efficient as super-heated steam). The reactor, piping, steam generators, pressurizer, etc are all insulated, but still lose significant heat; if you ever go in the containment building during operation, it's hot - real hot ... more loss. Then there's the energy exchange from steam to mechanical energy (turbine rotation) which in turn drives the generator - energy exchange once again from mechanical to electrical. That's extremely simplified ... no consideration for all the other equipment involved ... for example, the reactor coolant pumps which are huge - we're talking motor/pump assemblies that are close to house size and around 10,000 HP - four of them. Then you get into transmission losses which are large ... the losses increase with transmission distance (and Nimbys don't want any plants close - especially power loving city Nimbys). The numbers are complex when you do an end to end evaluation, and I doubt there's much way you can claim that electrically produced fossil fuel is cleaner than simply burning gas in the car. Electric cars really don't make much sense unless you are totally nuclear, and we are far from that. If you're going to burn natural gas to power cars, then just do it in the damn car and quit the nonsense.
 
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“If you show up with cancer & you’re 95 years old, we should say, Go & enjoy. There’s no cure, we can’t do anything. A young person, we should do something. Society’s not willing to do that yet.” -Bloomberg
 
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C-south said:
“If you show up with cancer & you’re 95 years old, we should say, Go & enjoy. There’s no cure, we can’t do anything. A young person, we should do something. Society’s not willing to do that yet.” -Bloomberg
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Slippery slope once you go there. 95 becomes 85, then you can justify 75 ... and so it goes.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Or it’s just like I said . Illogical to to replace one devil that you know with one you know will ruin the economy with his policies .
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Nothing illogical about replacing the devil, but electing and continuing to support the devil certainly is.
 
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AM64 said:
Luther, ever hear the one about cutting off your nose to spite your face? You are looking at Trump as a horribly disfigured facial appendage when he's actually performing a very useful function ... even if you don't understand or can't appreciate it. Liberalism rots your brains until you can't reason.
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I have heard of that and it is precisely what I believe Trumpers did by nominating and electing Trump.
I would view getting rid of Trump more as "cutting off a tumor to save your face".
 
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C-south said:
“If you show up with cancer & you’re 95 years old, we should say, Go & enjoy. There’s no cure, we can’t do anything. A young person, we should do something. Society’s not willing to do that yet.” -Bloomberg
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You don't think there is truth in that statement?
 
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AM64 said:
Coal and especially nuclear make a lot of sense for non motive applications. There are nevertheless significant inefficiencies (losses) in power generation and transmission. Every transfer of energy from one form or one medium to another has losses ... some substantial. In a pressurized water reactor, for example, heat from fission heats water in the reactor ... there's heat transfer from the fuel to the clad and from the clad to the coolant - each with losses. The primary coolant (pressurized water water) heats secondary coolant producing steam for the turbine (same deal transmission from primary coolant to steam generator tubes to heat secondary water to steam) - most steam generators are U tube type that produce saturated steam (not nearly as efficient as super-heated steam). The reactor, piping, steam generators, pressurizer, etc are all insulated, but still lose significant heat; if you ever go in the containment building during operation, it's hot - real hot ... more loss. Then there's the energy exchange from steam to mechanical energy (turbine rotation) which in turn drives the generator - energy exchange once again from mechanical to electrical. That's extremely simplified ... no consideration for all the other equipment involved ... for example, the reactor coolant pumps which are huge - we're talking motor/pump assemblies that are close to house size and around 10,000 HP - four of them. Then you get into transmission losses which are large ... the losses increase with transmission distance (and Nimbys don't want any plants close - especially power loving city Nimbys). The numbers are complex when you do an end to end evaluation, and I doubt there's much way you can claim that electrically produced fossil fuel is cleaner than simply burning gas in the car. Electric cars really don't make much sense unless you are totally nuclear, and we are far from that. If you're going to burn natural gas to power cars, then just do it in the damn car and quit the nonsense.
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But electric cars are the new nirvana. Don’t want to be bothered with having to actually think beyond that.

Years ago I was involved in developing fuel cell powered cars that ran on methanol. There was a “famous” coast to coast run of one prototype. But methanol lost out to hydrogen because of fear of it leaking out of storage tanks. Hydrogen powered fuel cell forklifts are cool but only make sense for large fleets due to the complexity of fueling them.
 
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