Amazing how many "Vol fans" demonstrate more loyalty to a coach than to the program or the players who lay their bodies on the line.
Maybe you guys don't remember that JONES made Hurd the poster boy for UT's resurgence. He praised him as the type of player UT wants and needs. So even if you are right and Hurd is the biggest dirtbag who ever walked.... Jones is still DEAD WRONG since he thought Hurd was a cornerstone for rebuilding the program.
Several players have left their teams during the season and were able to play elsewhere the following season. I don't know the rules but maybe that's what Hurd is trying to do?
But the bottom line is that if Jones BS's players like he BS's everyone else.... this is far from over and it won't end pretty.
don't pay any attention to these clowns on volnation.
75 percent of them are dumber than dirt and worship every sad sack excuse of a coach tn hires.
from wonderboy to dufus and now the used car salesman.they are easily fooled as was Jalen.
until we hire a true program builder.a proven big league winner.thus is the life of of our Tennessee vols.
You're usually a pretty level headed poster so I don't get the anger you're displaying here. However, it is indeed over. CBJ handled it well in the presser and so did Jalen's Mom with her FB post. There haven't been any attacks coming from the coaches or the players. 74 needs to drop it and move on the same way CBJ and the team have. All these posts simply keep the drama and speculation alive. They do no one any good, especially Jalen.
The responses from posters don't come from sheeple or the program. They're not worshiping the coach just regular posters stating their opinions and speculating on what they've heard and many are responding directly to what 74 has said for over a year now and the contradictions that have put out there.
This message board will always have speculation and rumor on it but in the real world it's over. He's gone. The program has moved on. Whatever happened is something we'll never know for sure because there are multiple sides to all of this that we'll never hear but in the end it doesn't matter because he left.
As for being a cornerstone, Jalen certainly was one for his first two years here and everyone is grateful for his contributions. He did a lot to help us get where we are but the drama that has come out this year is something we're not grateful for and should've been kept in house instead of plastered on a message board.
The people involved in this need to move on as both CBJ and Jalen already have.
We have hyperbole, conspiracy theories, and the wild rantings of team Hurd rolled up into one. Wonder what you guys think about these evil coaches across the country that recruit a kid for one position and the kid ends up somewhere else once they get them on campus. Is that a 'lie' in your book? Or a coach reassessing a situation and doing what is best for the team? You guys sound like grade school kids with this 'He lied to him' martyr routine. We don't need to wait for some mythical truth, those of us with a functional brain are seeing the truth come out in this thread with our very own eyes.
Jalen can do whatever and I hope he succeeds but acting like he was wronged when he was on his way to becoming Tennessee's leading all time rusher just doesn't hold water. If he wants to leave that's fine but don't act like he didn't get a fair shake....that to me, is total selfish and arrogant behavior. Just move on and I wish him the best.
Yeah, I think it's entirely possible. Who would want a 5 star RB, who will most likely break UT's rushing record. You might put up with a lot of bull**** to appease that kind of talent.
Cue the frivolous lawsuit talk. You yourself said no one knew that he had a concussion and 'that was the kind of competitor he was'. Can't even keep up with your own bs.
He/she also stated JH put himself back in the UGA game. That it wasn't the coach's doing. And then he sure celebrated like a mad man after JJ's catch. But now, we have the veiled threats of 'he will talk to the right people'. Better get the stories straight.
I don't agree that Jalen should have left. Stick it out, man up and deal with adversity, but how many times are you going to let a Mfer lie to you before you say screw it. Jalen is a quiet person. He doesn't do interviews and doesn't do a lot of talking period. You can take that as arrogance or maybe he just doesn't want to be bothered. I don't expect him to ever come forward and say anything cause it's just not his style, but I'll give you an example of the song and dance BS he got every week from Lying Lyle. This is a quick and easy example of what I'm talking about.
I'd say most everyone here are big Vol fan, and I also suspect that you all caught Butch's press conference last week, right? Remember when he talked about mixing up the running game, running out of pistol, etc. Hell, there was a whole thread titled "I-formation" on here because of it, and we talked about it all week.
Well.....
Where was it? Did you see it? Was old Butch lying to us? Did he gas your head up all week that we were going to do something different and then we didn't? What if you got that same ole song and dance on a daily baisis? I promise you're going to get to a point where you're over it.
Last year - "Hey coach, thanks for everything, but I think I might not be the best fit for the program. I'm interested in looking around and maybe go to a more traditional system when I can use my skills better". "No, Jalen we'll do more things to utilize your skill set better here".
Outback Bowl. Out of maybe 8-9 times Jalen runs out of the I, he averaged about 10 yards per carry.
This year - nothing different. Runnng his big a$$ sideways or into a brick wall. Concussion, back injuries, just beat the hell out of.
I PROMISE if someone lies to you over and over and over again, you're going to do something different too!
I don't agree that Jalen should have left. Stick it out, man up and deal with adversity, but how many times are you going to let a Mfer lie to you before you say screw it. Jalen is a quiet person. He doesn't do interviews and doesn't do a lot of talking period. You can take that as arrogance or maybe he just doesn't want to be bothered. I don't expect him to ever come forward and say anything cause it's just not his style, but I'll give you an example of the song and dance BS he got every week from Lying Lyle. This is a quick and easy example of what I'm talking about.
I'd say most everyone here are big Vol fan, and I also suspect that you all caught Butch's press conference last week, right? Remember when he talked about mixing up the running game, running out of pistol, etc. Hell, there was a whole thread titled "I-formation" on here because of it, and we talked about it all week.
Well.....
Where was it? Did you see it? Was old Butch lying to us? Did he gas your head up all week that we were going to do something different and then we didn't? What if you got that same ole song and dance on a daily baisis? I promise you're going to get to a point where you're over it.
Last year - "Hey coach, thanks for everything, but I think I might not be the best fit for the program. I'm interested in looking around and maybe go to a more traditional system when I can use my skills better". "No, Jalen we'll do more things to utilize your skill set better here".
Outback Bowl. Out of maybe 8-9 times Jalen runs out of the I, he averaged about 10 yards per carry.
This year - nothing different. Runnng his big a$$ sideways or into a brick wall. Concussion, back injuries, just beat the hell out of.
I PROMISE if someone lies to you over and over and over again, you're going to do something different too!
Sorry I put a person in the uniform and not some robot.
You guys put these players on the same level as Marines going to war. Give their all and no questions asked even when they are breathing in Agent Orange.
Sorry I dont feel that way.
Also, where are the 15 different threads on Danny who got kicked off the team for Meth? Don't see him getting thrown under the bus.
See, I don't think he gets drafted. I think an on field red flag will be the production of Kamara and Kelly.
I don't agree that Jalen should have left. Stick it out, man up and deal with adversity, but how many times are you going to let a Mfer lie to you before you say screw it. Jalen is a quiet person. He doesn't do interviews and doesn't do a lot of talking period. You can take that as arrogance or maybe he just doesn't want to be bothered. I don't expect him to ever come forward and say anything cause it's just not his style, but I'll give you an example of the song and dance BS he got every week from Lying Lyle. This is a quick and easy example of what I'm talking about.
I'd say most everyone here are big Vol fan, and I also suspect that you all caught Butch's press conference last week, right? Remember when he talked about mixing up the running game, running out of pistol, etc. Hell, there was a whole thread titled "I-formation" on here because of it, and we talked about it all week.
Well.....
Where was it? Did you see it? Was old Butch lying to us? Did he gas your head up all week that we were going to do something different and then we didn't? What if you got that same ole song and dance on a daily baisis? I promise you're going to get to a point where you're over it.
Last year - "Hey coach, thanks for everything, but I think I might not be the best fit for the program. I'm interested in looking around and maybe go to a more traditional system when I can use my skills better". "No, Jalen we'll do more things to utilize your skill set better here".
Outback Bowl. Out of maybe 8-9 times Jalen runs out of the I, he averaged about 10 yards per carry.
This year - nothing different. Runnng his big a$$ sideways or into a brick wall. Concussion, back injuries, just beat the hell out of.
I PROMISE if someone lies to you over and over and over again, you're going to do something different too!
Amazing how many "Vol fans" demonstrate more loyalty to a coach than to the program or the players who lay their bodies on the line.
Maybe you guys don't remember that JONES made Hurd the poster boy for UT's resurgence. He praised him as the type of player UT wants and needs. So even if you are right and Hurd is the biggest dirtbag who ever walked.... Jones is still DEAD WRONG since he thought Hurd was a cornerstone for rebuilding the program.
Several players have left their teams during the season and were able to play elsewhere the following season. I don't know the rules but maybe that's what Hurd is trying to do?
But the bottom line is that if Jones BS's players like he BS's everyone else.... this is far from over and it won't end pretty.
The two situations aren't in the same ballpark (hell, they're not even the same sport). Kamara transferred after the season to a junior college as a redshirt freshman buried on the depth chart, while Hurd left his team in the middle of the season as the starting running back.
Amazing how many "Vol fans" demonstrate more loyalty to a coach than to the program or the players who lay their bodies on the line.
Maybe you guys don't remember that JONES made Hurd the poster boy for UT's resurgence. He praised him as the type of player UT wants and needs. So even if you are right and Hurd is the biggest dirtbag who ever walked.... Jones is still DEAD WRONG since he thought Hurd was a cornerstone for rebuilding the program.
Several players have left their teams during the season and were able to play elsewhere the following season. I don't know the rules but maybe that's what Hurd is trying to do?
But the bottom line is that if Jones BS's players like he BS's everyone else.... this is far from over and it won't end pretty.
theres your 75% er chirping in,nothing to add..hug ur butch bear and grow up.
Amazing how many "Vol fans" demonstrate more loyalty to a coach than to the program or the players who lay their bodies on the line.
Maybe you guys don't remember that JONES made Hurd the poster boy for UT's resurgence. He praised him as the type of player UT wants and needs. So even if you are right and Hurd is the biggest dirtbag who ever walked.... Jones is still DEAD WRONG since he thought Hurd was a cornerstone for rebuilding the program.
Truth!
CBJ stood to lose everything if Hurd had decided to leave the program before the NW game last year--for precisely these reasons!!
Leaving in December would've enabled Jalen to transfer somewhere else with 3 years to complete his final 2...and playing in 2017....you can bet the farm that CBJ knows those rules....
So--once again, it was CBJ who stood to lose his reputation and his recruiting edge if Hurd walked--and it would have been JONES in the bulls-eye of public scrutiny and criticism instead of a 20 year old player.
MOTIVE is everything....and CBJ had MOTIVE to do anything to keep Hurd at UT for his 3rd year....
Critical thinkers are gonna get that.....but sheeple never will......:salute: