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We lost bad, I get it. If your thoughts lean “Fire Pruitt” or “play the damn backup QB“ then this post isn’t for you (or feel free to argue). I know that’s the normal response for any college football fan of any college football team who loses to a better team, but I‘ve also seen a few posters who like to look a bit deeper than this. Long post from me, TLDR is an obvious choice, but here are some thoughts for anyone who wants some light reading:

- Anyone remember the great Peyton never beating Florida? Football is a team sport, and we had -1 yards of rushing today. If anyone really wants to get pissed, that’s the stat, that’s the number to be angry about. Pick any 2 teams and if one has 193 yards of rushing and 1 has -1, you know who won that game. While not terribly unexpected, it still hurts.

- Passing game is impressing me. GA’s defense is elite AND pretty quickly it became apparent we couldn’t run the ball (like most teams that have played them the past 2 years). We became 1 dimensional. Yet still we were able have some success there. Look at the passing stats between these 2 teams in a vacuum: Team A, 23 for 36 (64%), 2TDs, 1 pick, 215 yards. Team B, 16-27 (59%), 2TDs, 0 picks, 238 yards. Either team can still win that game. That we became 1 dimensional, we knew it, UGA knew it, everyone knew it and we still had some success, that gave me lots of hope that our passing game is in fact pretty good, competition be damed. This fact alone is why our game lasted until the second half, yet the Auburn game was over by the end of the 1st qtr. That’s a moral victory for sure, but a moral victory nonetheless.

- Keep these two teams the same, but put Bennett on our team and JG on their, and IMO final score is probably closer to something like 44-10. For those that said we had the better QB on the field last night, I think there’s possibly some merit there again considering UGA knew it. Anyway, who cares I guess it’s all hypothetical.

- Elephant in the room. JG threw a terrible pick. Defense was coming at him, but it’s inexcusable. But it was a mistake. That stuff happens, esp against an elite D. No QB on the bench would’ve played better yesterday, and almost certainly most would’ve played significantly worse is my educated suspicion. For the record, Bennett threw a mistake that was an INT but just dropped. 2 strip sack fumbles. We’re already punching above our weight here with a gifted 7 points right off the bat, and yeah one JG certainly could’ve held on to the ball better, but one was complete blindside. Internal clock my arse, there was barely time for a 3 step drop. Our O-line was getting whooped all over the field. I mean bad. I don’t know if GA’s D line is just that good or if our Oline isn’t as good as we thought. Maybe a bit of both, but I lean more toward UGA being elite. But multiple times I saw even Trey and Cade just get blown by. Boy was that ugly.

- Our D I’m still not sure about. We have yet to play a team with a really stout offense, and UGA is no different. Watching that game, our O is better than UGA’s not by much, but by a little. But their D is leagues ahead of us (and many teams). Their D provides so much of their scoring this year, either by TOs, or field position. What I am sold on is our D’s ability to overall play well against a less than elite offense.

My overall takeaway is our O-line/RBs were completely dominated by their front 7. Both in our inability to run the ball and our inability to pass protect. Lots of other positives and negatives, but that was the difference in the game and I think if we played them 10 times, we’d leave with that same takeaway.

UGA looks like a top 5ish team to me. Elite defense, but avg, maybe slightly above avg offense. Still not sure exactly where we sit. Slightly above avg on both sides of the ball? Not good enough to consistently score on elite D’s and not good enough to stop elite O’s? But can have success if opposition Isn’t elite? Oh well, snap and clear. Big game coming up. UK could pretty easily be 3-0 right now. As improved as we are overall as a program, I’d hate to listen to VolCalls if we go 0-3 during this rough middle stretch of this awkward SEC only season.
 
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It's important to us, so we talk about it. In an abstract, subconscious way we believe if we talk about it enough we can make it change. That's about it.
 
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It's important to us, so we talk about it. In an abstract, subconscious way we believe if we talk about it enough we can make it change. That's about it.
Yeah, I mean I like talking about it too. I like listening to others’ opinions. I really love long well thought out posts, even ones I disagree with. Those are hard to find sometimes though, both in wins and in losses. Wining cures all, losing makes everything suck. The devil is in the details though, either way.
 
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if in "salty" you mean cant beat a divisional rival or even cover the vegas line, then I guess salty is one word. I cant think of many others
 
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if in "salty" you mean cant beat a divisional rival or even cover the vegas line, then I guess salty is one word. I cant think of many others
Yes, this is exactly what I mean by salty. Can you imagine for a moment a scenario in which “even the Vegas line” was always covered?
 
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If you mean by salty not fixing issues in Y3 that have been around since Y1G1 (i.e. underperforming OL, halftime adjustments)....

I just disagree with you completely that issues in Y3 are not getting fixed. We’re better in every position and depth is better in every position than 3 years ago. Our coaching is better than 3 years ago. Coach Pruitt I’d argue even completely outcoached Kirby yesterday. Someone can start a separate thread about it if we want. But at some point, it’s all about the Jimmys and Joes which is what we saw yesterday. We had no business being ahead of GA at halftime but we were, in spite of the fact that we could not run the ball AT all. We had a grand total of 15 yards of rushing in the first half, and it was closer to 10 if looking just at our 2 RBs. We had more points in the first half against GA than their other 2 opponents combined all season long. And a highly ranked Auburn was one of those teams. Pffffffttt, no halftime adjustments. That’s a poor hot take, in my opinion. We couldn’t run the ball, and it was impossible so we had to fling it to give ourselves a chance. Everyone knew it, GA began to bring the house and even sometimes when they didn’t, our pass pro couldn’t hold up. JG made a terrible decision, and two more times got strip sacked. About 15 more times at least though, he was on his ass. What adjustments are there to make to that? Put in the backup QB? And which one? Put in better offensive linemen? Put in RBs that can run or block better. Just run the ball better? Call better plays? Do better?

I’m disappointed in the loss, but was impressed with a lot of what we did. And some really dumb penalties all over the field, and that’s an even better game. All that said, we couldn’t handle their front 7.

Our offense is better than GA’s in a vacuum. Our D isn’t even close though. And that’s not a critique of our D, it’s just a tip of the cap to theirs. Their D is insanely good, particularly the front 7. Their front 7 vs. our O-line/RB play was far and away the difference in that game. At least in my opinion. But to me that doesn’t mean we’re that far off.
 
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I just disagree with you completely that issues in Y3 are not getting fixed. We’re better in every position and depth is better in every position than 3 years ago. Our coaching is better than 3 years ago. Coach Pruitt I’d argue even completely outcoached Kirby yesterday. Someone can start a separate thread about it if we want. But at some point, it’s all about the Jimmys and Joes which is what we saw yesterday. We had no business being ahead of GA at halftime but we were, in spite of the fact that we could not run the ball AT all. We had a grand total of 15 yards of rushing in the first half, and it was closer to 10 if looking just at our 2 RBs. We had more points in the first half against GA than their other 2 opponents combined all season long. And a highly ranked Auburn was one of those teams. Pffffffttt, no halftime adjustments. That’s a poor hot take, in my opinion. We couldn’t run the ball, and it was impossible so we had to fling it to give ourselves a chance. Everyone knew it, GA began to bring the house and even sometimes when they didn’t, our pass pro couldn’t hold up. JG made a terrible decision, and two more times got strip sacked. About 15 more times at least though, he was on his ass. What adjustments are there to make to that? Put in the backup QB? And which one? Put in better offensive linemen? Put in RBs that can run or block better. Just run the ball better? Call better plays? Do better?

I’m disappointed in the loss, but was impressed with a lot of what we did. And some really dumb penalties all over the field, and that’s an even better game. All that said, we couldn’t handle their front 7.

Our offense is better than GA’s in a vacuum. Our D isn’t even close though. And that’s not a critique of our D, it’s just a tip of the cap to theirs. Their D is insanely good, particularly the front 7. Their front 7 vs. our O-line/RB play was far and away the difference in that game. At least in my opinion. But to me that doesn’t mean we’re that far off.

In 2018, our OL played less than the sum of their parts, in 2019, they played less than sum of their parts, and in 2020, a line with 4 5* was decimated. That hasnt been fixed yet.

The team still struggles after halftime just like 18 and 19. They struggled against an inferior team in Week 1 this year and was whipped yesterday.

There's some good definitely and the RZ play is much better this year but there are some glaring weaknesses still.
 
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We lost bad, I get it. If your thoughts lean “Fire Pruitt” or “play the damn backup QB“ then this post isn’t for you (or feel free to argue). I know that’s the normal response for any college football fan of any college football team who loses to a better team, but I‘ve also seen a few posters who like to look a bit deeper than this. Long post from me, TLDR is an obvious choice, but here are some thoughts for anyone who wants some light reading:

- Anyone remember the great Peyton never beating Florida? Football is a team sport, and we had -1 yards of rushing today. If anyone really wants to get pissed, that’s the stat, that’s the number to be angry about. Pick any 2 teams and if one has 193 yards of rushing and 1 has -1, you know who won that game. While not terribly unexpected, it still hurts.

- Passing game is impressing me. GA’s defense is elite AND pretty quickly it became apparent we couldn’t run the ball (like most teams that have played them the past 2 years). We became 1 dimensional. Yet still we were able have some success there. Look at the passing stats between these 2 teams in a vacuum: Team A, 23 for 36 (64%), 2TDs, 1 pick, 215 yards. Team B, 16-27 (59%), 2TDs, 0 picks, 238 yards. Either team can still win that game. That we became 1 dimensional, we knew it, UGA knew it, everyone knew it and we still had some success, that gave me lots of hope that our passing game is in fact pretty good, competition be damed. This fact alone is why our game lasted until the second half, yet the Auburn game was over by the end of the 1st qtr. That’s a moral victory for sure, but a moral victory nonetheless.

- Keep these two teams the same, but put Bennett on our team and JG on their, and IMO final score is probably closer to something like 44-10. For those that said we had the better QB on the field last night, I think there’s possibly some merit there again considering UGA knew it. Anyway, who cares I guess it’s all hypothetical.

- Elephant in the room. JG threw a terrible pick. Defense was coming at him, but it’s inexcusable. But it was a mistake. That stuff happens, esp against an elite D. No QB on the bench would’ve played better yesterday, and almost certainly most would’ve played significantly worse is my educated suspicion. For the record, Bennett threw a mistake that was an INT but just dropped. 2 strip sack fumbles. We’re already punching above our weight here with a gifted 7 points right off the bat, and yeah one JG certainly could’ve held on to the ball better, but one was complete blindside. Internal clock my arse, there was barely time for a 3 step drop. Our O-line was getting whooped all over the field. I mean bad. I don’t know if GA’s D line is just that good or if our Oline isn’t as good as we thought. Maybe a bit of both, but I lean more toward UGA being elite. But multiple times I saw even Trey and Cade just get blown by. Boy was that ugly.

- Our D I’m still not sure about. We have yet to play a team with a really stout offense, and UGA is no different. Watching that game, our O is better than UGA’s not by much, but by a little. But their D is leagues ahead of us (and many teams). Their D provides so much of their scoring this year, either by TOs, or field position. What I am sold on is our D’s ability to overall play well against a less than elite offense.

My overall takeaway is our O-line/RBs were completely dominated by their front 7. Both in our inability to run the ball and our inability to pass protect. Lots of other positives and negatives, but that was the difference in the game and I think if we played them 10 times, we’d leave with that same takeaway.

UGA looks like a top 5ish team to me. Elite defense, but avg, maybe slightly above avg offense. Still not sure exactly where we sit. Slightly above avg on both sides of the ball? Not good enough to consistently score on elite D’s and not good enough to stop elite O’s? But can have success if opposition Isn’t elite? Oh well, snap and clear. Big game coming up. UK could pretty easily be 3-0 right now. As improved as we are overall as a program, I’d hate to listen to VolCalls if we go 0-3 during this rough middle stretch of this awkward SEC only season.
 
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JG had a high completion percentage because the vast majority of his throws were short dump offs. If it's 3rd and 11 and you dump it off for 6 yards, you've not done yourself many favors. JG averaged 5.9 yards per attempt. Georgia averaged 8.8. That's a big difference and the gap gets even bigger when you factor in yards per completion. To put JGs stats in context, Sam Darnold, with the worst offense in the NFL by far, averages 5.7 yards per attempt. Russell Wilson who is just killing it this year is averaging 9 yards per attempt. The Ga QB played MUCH MUCH better yesterday than JG did. It's not even remotely close and that's before you factor in the huge mistakes JG made with 3 fumbles and an interception in a short time that just flushed the game down the toilet.
 
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I just disagree with you completely that issues in Y3 are not getting fixed. We’re better in every position and depth is better in every position than 3 years ago. Our coaching is better than 3 years ago. Coach Pruitt I’d argue even completely outcoached Kirby yesterday. Someone can start a separate thread about it if we want. But at some point, it’s all about the Jimmys and Joes which is what we saw yesterday. We had no business being ahead of GA at halftime but we were, in spite of the fact that we could not run the ball AT all. We had a grand total of 15 yards of rushing in the first half, and it was closer to 10 if looking just at our 2 RBs. We had more points in the first half against GA than their other 2 opponents combined all season long. And a highly ranked Auburn was one of those teams. Pffffffttt, no halftime adjustments. That’s a poor hot take, in my opinion. We couldn’t run the ball, and it was impossible so we had to fling it to give ourselves a chance. Everyone knew it, GA began to bring the house and even sometimes when they didn’t, our pass pro couldn’t hold up. JG made a terrible decision, and two more times got strip sacked. About 15 more times at least though, he was on his ass. What adjustments are there to make to that? Put in the backup QB? And which one? Put in better offensive linemen? Put in RBs that can run or block better. Just run the ball better? Call better plays? Do better?

I’m disappointed in the loss, but was impressed with a lot of what we did. And some really dumb penalties all over the field, and that’s an even better game. All that said, we couldn’t handle their front 7.

Our offense is better than GA’s in a vacuum. Our D isn’t even close though. And that’s not a critique of our D, it’s just a tip of the cap to theirs. Their D is insanely good, particularly the front 7. Their front 7 vs. our O-line/RB play was far and away the difference in that game. At least in my opinion. But to me that doesn’t mean we’re that far off.

Finally, some rational analysis of what really happened yesterday. I've been around football for a long, long time, and you make sense as opposed to the "lynch mob" that has been very much in evidence since yesterday evening. They are the biggest obstacle to overcome on the way to achieving Big Orange football relevance.
 
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In 2018, our OL played less than the sum of their parts, in 2019, they played less than sum of their parts, and in 2020, a line with 4 5* was decimated. That hasnt been fixed yet.

The team still struggles after halftime just like 18 and 19. They struggled against an inferior team in Week 1 this year and was whipped yesterday.

There's some good definitely and the RZ play is much better this year but there are some glaring weaknesses still.

Mojo, I totally agree with your assessment of our OL playing less than the sum of their parts. That’s a great call, and I can get on board with that thought for sure. And yesterday, anyone who thinks our 5* OL wasn’t just thoroughly dominated just doesn’t know football. My point is how much of that is UGA’s DL “elite-ness” vs. how much is our OL mediocrity. I tend to think it’s more of the former, but it’s a bit of a guess still at this point. What I do think though is that 2 years ago, our OL had to punch above their weight sometimes even against average teams. I don’t think that’s the case any longer. Put an avg D line across the ball from us, and our OL has been improving and quite dramatically I think. We saw the very beginnings of it in the MS State game last year and it’s been progressively better ever since. Yesterday was the first complete ”woof” game to me. But I think I read that GA hasn’t allowed a rushing TD in 2 years or some nonsense, so while it’s clear that our OL/RB play doesn’t stack up yet against the best of the best, I can’t tell much else. It’s really, really hard for me to judge a ton in that first USC game, and really on some levels this whole season, due to lack of spring/fall camp, etc. But I don’t think we disagree a ton on this aspect of our team. We clearly have to get better on the Oline, or the elite teams will continue to beat us.

There are still some glaring weaknesses...I’ll certainly buy that too. LB play I think needs to improve in pass pro. QB play can certainly improve. I just think we’re way better across the board now that last year, and certainly the year before. I see way too many freshmen and underclassmen playing extremely well right now to not think our future is still trending up.
 
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JG to Manning comparisons? Seriously? Peyton may not have beaten Florida but Peyton also only lost 3 total SEC games in his last 3 seasons at Tennessee and only 4 games overall in those 3 seasons. The last 3 seasons with JG at the helm? 20 losses. You read that correctly, 20 losses over the past 3 seasons. Manning also beat top 10 teams. JG, 0 wins vs top 10 teams. People can keep attempting to defend JG and blame this or that but it is clear as day what the actual problem is and has been. When people are praising the offensive line for being great the first 2 games and then blaming everything on that same line and saying how horrible they are you know it is an attempt to defend the undefendable. To move forward we have to move on and it is complete insanity to not get future QBs playing time in a season that does not count towards eligibility.
 
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JG had a high completion percentage because the vast majority of his throws were short dump offs. If it's 3rd and 11 and you dump it off for 6 yards, you've not done yourself many favors. JG averaged 5.9 yards per attempt. Georgia averaged 8.8. That's a big difference and the gap gets even bigger when you factor in yards per completion. To put JGs stats in context, Sam Darnold, with the worst offense in the NFL by far, averages 5.7 yards per attempt. Russell Wilson who is just killing it this year is averaging 9 yards per attempt. The Ga QB played MUCH MUCH better yesterday than JG did. It's not even remotely close and that's before you factor in the huge mistakes JG made with 3 fumbles and an interception in a short time that just flushed the game down the toilet.

Why is it 3rd and 11?

And are you including NFL QBs in a comparison to our QB in a game yesterday where we rushed for -1 yards?
 
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Finally, some rational analysis of what really happened yesterday. I've been around football for a long, long time, and you make sense as opposed to the "lynch mob" that has been very much in evidence since yesterday evening. They are the biggest obstacle to overcome on the way to achieving Big Orange football relevance.
No, I would say the “biggest obstacle to overcome on the way to achieving Big Orange Football Relevance” remains those 11 guys on the other side of the line of scrimmage that keep pushing UT around in every big game. It ain’t the lynch mob missing blocks, overthrowing receivers, making false starts, fumbling, and getting stupid targeting penalties. The only people who can fix this are wearing Orange and hanging out in the UT Football complex.
 
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JG to Manning comparisons? Seriously? Peyton may not have beaten Florida but Peyton also only lost 3 total SEC games in his last 3 seasons at Tennessee and only 4 games overall in those 3 seasons. The last 3 seasons with JG at the helm? 20 losses. You read that correctly, 20 losses over the past 3 seasons. Manning also beat top 10 teams. JG, 0 wins vs top 10 teams. People can keep attempting to defend JG and blame this or that but it is clear as day what the actual problem is and has been. When people are praising the offensive line for being great the first 2 games and then blaming everything on that same line and saying how horrible they are you know it is an attempt to defend the undefendable. To move forward we have to move on and it is complete insanity to not get future QBs playing time in a season that does not count towards eligibility.

You are completely missing my point. I’m not at all comparing JG to Manning. What I am saying is Peyton Manning was one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game of football. Yet folks talk about how ”he” could never beat Florida, as if it was PM vs. the Gators.

I’m not going to disagree with anyone that thinks we can‘t have better QB play. But how I find it laughable and extremely simple-minded for a fan to try and lay blame on a QB when our OL/RB gets completely dominated from start to finish like what just happened. Just like it’s laughable when folks say “Peyton” couldn’t beat FL.
 
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No, I would say the “biggest obstacle to overcome on the way to achieving Big Orange Football Relevance” remains those 11 guys on the other side of the line of scrimmage that keep pushing UT around in every big game. It ain’t the lynch mob missing blocks, overthrowing receivers, making false starts, fumbling, and getting stupid targeting penalties. The only people who can fix this are wearing Orange and hanging out in the UT Football complex.
Preach! We can all argue and debate and opine all we want on these here boards, but everything you say here is spot on.
 
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Why is it 3rd and 11?

And are you including NFL QBs in a comparison to our QB in a game yesterday where we rushed for -1 yards?

We rushed for -1 yards in part because the QB had -40 yards rushing and was no threat to throw beyond 6 yards for the most part.

I'm comparing the stats of the worst offense in the NFL and the 2nd best. Our QB numbers reflected the worst, theirs the best. I believe there was a comparison of JGs numbers vs the GA QB numbers insinuating that they weren't that far apart. The example used is meant to show there was a massive gulf in between the two.
 
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You are completely missing my point. I’m not at all comparing JG to Manning. What I am saying is Peyton Manning was one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game of football. Yet folks talk about how ”he” could never beat Florida, as if it was PM vs. the Gators.

I’m not going to disagree with anyone that thinks we can‘t have better QB play. But how I find it laughable and extremely simple-minded for a fan to try and lay blame on a QB when our OL/RB gets completely dominated from start to finish like what just happened. Just like it’s laughable when folks say “Peyton” couldn’t beat FL.
Do you know why they got dominated? Because of our QB. When a defense stacks the box because your QB is no threat that kind of destroys your running game. The oline can't block 8 players in the box. When a 5th year QB keeps getting stripped because he is holding the football down around his waist instead of up that is on the QB not the oline. When the defense shifts because they know you are changing the play at the line every play that is on the QB not the line. It isn't as if this is the first season we have gone through this. Last season JG got benched because he was constantly changing the plays and screwing the offense. You can find whatever you want laughable but that laughter doesn't make you right.
 
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We lost bad, I get it. If your thoughts lean “Fire Pruitt” or “play the damn backup QB“ then this post isn’t for you (or feel free to argue). I know that’s the normal response for any college football fan of any college football team who loses to a better team, but I‘ve also seen a few posters who like to look a bit deeper than this. Long post from me, TLDR is an obvious choice, but here are some thoughts for anyone who wants some light reading:

- Anyone remember the great Peyton never beating Florida? Football is a team sport, and we had -1 yards of rushing today. If anyone really wants to get pissed, that’s the stat, that’s the number to be angry about. Pick any 2 teams and if one has 193 yards of rushing and 1 has -1, you know who won that game. While not terribly unexpected, it still hurts.

- Passing game is impressing me. GA’s defense is elite AND pretty quickly it became apparent we couldn’t run the ball (like most teams that have played them the past 2 years). We became 1 dimensional. Yet still we were able have some success there. Look at the passing stats between these 2 teams in a vacuum: Team A, 23 for 36 (64%), 2TDs, 1 pick, 215 yards. Team B, 16-27 (59%), 2TDs, 0 picks, 238 yards. Either team can still win that game. That we became 1 dimensional, we knew it, UGA knew it, everyone knew it and we still had some success, that gave me lots of hope that our passing game is in fact pretty good, competition be damed. This fact alone is why our game lasted until the second half, yet the Auburn game was over by the end of the 1st qtr. That’s a moral victory for sure, but a moral victory nonetheless.

- Keep these two teams the same, but put Bennett on our team and JG on their, and IMO final score is probably closer to something like 44-10. For those that said we had the better QB on the field last night, I think there’s possibly some merit there again considering UGA knew it. Anyway, who cares I guess it’s all hypothetical.

- Elephant in the room. JG threw a terrible pick. Defense was coming at him, but it’s inexcusable. But it was a mistake. That stuff happens, esp against an elite D. No QB on the bench would’ve played better yesterday, and almost certainly most would’ve played significantly worse is my educated suspicion. For the record, Bennett threw a mistake that was an INT but just dropped. 2 strip sack fumbles. We’re already punching above our weight here with a gifted 7 points right off the bat, and yeah one JG certainly could’ve held on to the ball better, but one was complete blindside. Internal clock my arse, there was barely time for a 3 step drop. Our O-line was getting whooped all over the field. I mean bad. I don’t know if GA’s D line is just that good or if our Oline isn’t as good as we thought. Maybe a bit of both, but I lean more toward UGA being elite. But multiple times I saw even Trey and Cade just get blown by. Boy was that ugly.

- Our D I’m still not sure about. We have yet to play a team with a really stout offense, and UGA is no different. Watching that game, our O is better than UGA’s not by much, but by a little. But their D is leagues ahead of us (and many teams). Their D provides so much of their scoring this year, either by TOs, or field position. What I am sold on is our D’s ability to overall play well against a less than elite offense.

My overall takeaway is our O-line/RBs were completely dominated by their front 7. Both in our inability to run the ball and our inability to pass protect. Lots of other positives and negatives, but that was the difference in the game and I think if we played them 10 times, we’d leave with that same takeaway.

UGA looks like a top 5ish team to me. Elite defense, but avg, maybe slightly above avg offense. Still not sure exactly where we sit. Slightly above avg on both sides of the ball? Not good enough to consistently score on elite D’s and not good enough to stop elite O’s? But can have success if opposition Isn’t elite? Oh well, snap and clear. Big game coming up. UK could pretty easily be 3-0 right now. As improved as we are overall as a program, I’d hate to listen to VolCalls if we go 0-3 during this rough middle stretch of this awkward SEC only season.
Thanks for this. All of the people calling for Jg to sit and whining aren’t looking at anything objectively. We got whipped by an all-tome great D imo. Everything else is incidental. This team will be judged by how they play against every other team on the schedule not named Alabama (and I think we will compete better in that game)
 
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We lost bad, I get it. If your thoughts lean “Fire Pruitt” or “play the damn backup QB“ then this post isn’t for you (or feel free to argue). I know that’s the normal response for any college football fan of any college football team who loses to a better team, but I‘ve also seen a few posters who like to look a bit deeper than this. Long post from me, TLDR is an obvious choice, but here are some thoughts for anyone who wants some light reading:

- Anyone remember the great Peyton never beating Florida? Football is a team sport, and we had -1 yards of rushing today. If anyone really wants to get pissed, that’s the stat, that’s the number to be angry about. Pick any 2 teams and if one has 193 yards of rushing and 1 has -1, you know who won that game. While not terribly unexpected, it still hurts.

- Passing game is impressing me. GA’s defense is elite AND pretty quickly it became apparent we couldn’t run the ball (like most teams that have played them the past 2 years). We became 1 dimensional. Yet still we were able have some success there. Look at the passing stats between these 2 teams in a vacuum: Team A, 23 for 36 (64%), 2TDs, 1 pick, 215 yards. Team B, 16-27 (59%), 2TDs, 0 picks, 238 yards. Either team can still win that game. That we became 1 dimensional, we knew it, UGA knew it, everyone knew it and we still had some success, that gave me lots of hope that our passing game is in fact pretty good, competition be damed. This fact alone is why our game lasted until the second half, yet the Auburn game was over by the end of the 1st qtr. That’s a moral victory for sure, but a moral victory nonetheless.

- Keep these two teams the same, but put Bennett on our team and JG on their, and IMO final score is probably closer to something like 44-10. For those that said we had the better QB on the field last night, I think there’s possibly some merit there again considering UGA knew it. Anyway, who cares I guess it’s all hypothetical.

- Elephant in the room. JG threw a terrible pick. Defense was coming at him, but it’s inexcusable. But it was a mistake. That stuff happens, esp against an elite D. No QB on the bench would’ve played better yesterday, and almost certainly most would’ve played significantly worse is my educated suspicion. For the record, Bennett threw a mistake that was an INT but just dropped. 2 strip sack fumbles. We’re already punching above our weight here with a gifted 7 points right off the bat, and yeah one JG certainly could’ve held on to the ball better, but one was complete blindside. Internal clock my arse, there was barely time for a 3 step drop. Our O-line was getting whooped all over the field. I mean bad. I don’t know if GA’s D line is just that good or if our Oline isn’t as good as we thought. Maybe a bit of both, but I lean more toward UGA being elite. But multiple times I saw even Trey and Cade just get blown by. Boy was that ugly.

- Our D I’m still not sure about. We have yet to play a team with a really stout offense, and UGA is no different. Watching that game, our O is better than UGA’s not by much, but by a little. But their D is leagues ahead of us (and many teams). Their D provides so much of their scoring this year, either by TOs, or field position. What I am sold on is our D’s ability to overall play well against a less than elite offense.

My overall takeaway is our O-line/RBs were completely dominated by their front 7. Both in our inability to run the ball and our inability to pass protect. Lots of other positives and negatives, but that was the difference in the game and I think if we played them 10 times, we’d leave with that same takeaway.

UGA looks like a top 5ish team to me. Elite defense, but avg, maybe slightly above avg offense. Still not sure exactly where we sit. Slightly above avg on both sides of the ball? Not good enough to consistently score on elite D’s and not good enough to stop elite O’s? But can have success if opposition Isn’t elite? Oh well, snap and clear. Big game coming up. UK could pretty easily be 3-0 right now. As improved as we are overall as a program, I’d hate to listen to VolCalls if we go 0-3 during this rough middle stretch of this awkward SEC only season.

Thanks for a different point of view. I'm sure you will be ridiculed for it but you're right about the running game.

I would say somewhere between your point of view and the negavol fire Pruitt/bench JG crowd is probably where reality lies.

Really what we were missing more than anything was some leadership out there besides Henry T. We got spooked and made stupid mistakes left and right. We needed someone to step up, hold players accountable and instill confidence.
 
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