Bill King

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What is the over all thought about Bill King on Rivals radio? I am a big ESPN listener but after the Xm/Sirus merge I have been listening to him in the mornings. He's not really big on Kiffin. Your thoughts.
 
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I listen every morning I have never heard him say anything good about UT
 
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Bill King is a UT graduate and is starting to sound like a Birmingham radio announcer regarding UT. He never finds anything good to say about the VOLS. I have stopped listing to the station because of their negative slant. He first hated Fulmer, he then said we had a hire a recruiter, he then didn't like the great recruiter we hired. I honestly believe he has a personal disagreement with the university and he is now tainted toward Tennessee. I good years, prior to us being down he was never supportive. Try 104 or 1510, the 104 may be Vandy grads but at least they call it fairly.
 
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i listen to bill and joe biddle every afternoon on 560 am.
their thoughts on kiffin are that it was a real reach to hire him, and tenn. shouldn't have to take such a gamble on an unproven coach. they presume that he will be a terrific recruiter though.
 
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Bill King went Tennessee 2 years but graduated at Belmont in Nashville
 
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airvols said:
Bill King is a UT graduate and is starting to sound like a Birmingham radio announcer regarding UT. He never finds anything good to say about the VOLS. I have stopped listing to the station because of their negative slant. He first hated Fulmer, he then said we had a hire a recruiter, he then didn't like the great recruiter we hired. I honestly believe he has a personal disagreement with the university and he is now tainted toward Tennessee. I good years, prior to us being down he was never supportive. Try 104 or 1510, the 104 may be Vandy grads but at least they call it fairly.
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You are right though somthing happened at UT while he was there
 
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Since the Randy Sanders promotion as OC in 99, Bill King has been negative towards UT. For the longest, he would not say Sanders name on his radion show. I think that caused bad blood between he and Fulmer.

He is the type that the grass is always greener somewhere other than Tennessee. He was a leader for change and now gripes at the change. Throw in his buddy Biddle that is an old high school buddy with Spurrier and they can find any negative tone to news coming out of Knoxville. I once enjoyed their show on 560 but now can barely tolerate it. Unless you are a Bama or Gator caller this year, you don't get much positive feedback. These guys are the poster child for bandwagon chasers.
 
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He wanted to be quoted today saying that out of the 2 USC hirings, Kiffin-Tenn and Sarkisian to Wash, that Kiffin will be fired in 4 years. I'm shocked that he is a UT grad.
 
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He has learned that bashing Fulmer and UT gets him plenty of callers and airtime so thats what he does.
He is typically wrong and has no structure or guests. He just gets on every afternoon and criticizes UT. Sometimes he will give some good recruiting tidbits.
Its ashame too because nashville radio shouldnt be that tough of competitiion. We have a jerk off bama homer in Thom Abraham and a jerk offf vandy homer in George Plaster. You think a UT homer could squeeze in there somewhere.
 
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If you listen to King and Biddle, they both seem to agree that a change was needed and that hiring Kiffin was a better decision than letting Fulmer have another year. I think many fans expected someone on the order of Butch Davis to come, and for those folks I can see how their expectations were not met. I don't know how you can placate that crowd right now though.
 
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I don't have a problem with people criticizing the coaching decision. If we all agreed what would there be to discuss? I like to hear both sides anyways, regardless of the one I'm on.
 
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He said this morning that Kiffin would NEVER beat Florida and would be fired before Sark would be in Washington.
 
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104.5 is the best show in TN. They like Kiffin (think it was a gamble...but all hires are...correct?)
 
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The thing that gets me is everyone is so quick to write Kiffin off. Now that am a life long vols fan, I loved Fulmer, and I have read every "Kiffin is good/bad" thread on here, but mostly stayed out of them. I just think it's really to early for anyone to judge a thing about CLK. The thing I do know is that he out there at work recruiting and not sitting in Knoxville hanging pictures in his office. If I have to throw an early postive at CLK its that he is out there working and thats all we have to go by. All this "one foot in the grave" talk is all for ratings I guess.
 
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I've never listened to this guy, but he sounds like a big tool bag...of course he'll make that prediction that CSS will last longer than CLK...CSS is at UW and playing in the PAC one(USC)...wow...really going out on a limb there buddy....:moon2:
 
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rgvol said:
I listen every morning I have never heard him say anything good about UT
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Really! I Have not listened to him since WLAC got rid of sportstalk (5 years or more ago), but he used to be a big UT homer on WLAC with Bob Bell. Bob was a bigger homer than Bill, but Bill definately talked with Orange shaded glasses on. That was the main reason I liked them better than Plaster and the "Vandy" crew on the FM station (99.7 at the time).


As to the original question, he was very opinionated when he was on WLAC, and he often made statments out of opinion without backing them with fact. Bob seemed to keep him in check a lot any time he got out on a limb too far. When it came to recruiting though, he was the best there was around Nashville back then, and there really hasn't been anybody else since him that knows recruiting like he did.
 
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I guess this Bill King is the same guy who had an evening show on WLAC in Nashville. I used to pick them up in Memphis, and enjoyed listening on the drives up to Knoxville on Friday nights. Co-hosted with Bob Bell.

I really liked their show and missed it when it was replaced with some conservative political show. I never perceived an anti-Tennessee bias, but this was years ago.
 
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peaygolf89 said:
104.5 is the best show in TN. They like Kiffin (think it was a gamble...but all hires are...correct?)
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Plaster does not like Lane Kiffin. He thinks Monte is the only reason Lane has the reputation for being thought of as a good coach. (I like Plaster, but his opinion is probably the least valuable on there when they speaking about coaching and/or game plans.)
 
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I was wondering who that guy was. I just found out they play Rivals Radio on 144 on XM in the mornings. I've been listening to him all week. Today I must have heard him 3 or 4 times insenuate how dumb we were for letting Boyd loose. Talking about how great his arm strength is, etc. He really doesnt like Kiffin too much.
 
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dsbyrd said:
I guess this Bill King is the same guy who had an evening show on WLAC in Nashville. I used to pick them up in Memphis, and enjoyed listening on the drives up to Knoxville on Friday nights. Co-hosted with Bob Bell.

I really liked their show and missed it when it was replaced with some conservative political show. I never perceived an anti-Tennessee bias, but this was years ago.
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That's him. Bob and Bill's show was very good. I know Bill went to 560 in the afternoons right after WLAC got rid of their show, but I didn't like the show on 560 near as good as when he was with Bob. (Bob didn't go with him to 560.)
 
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BJSforVols said:
Plaster does not like Lane Kiffin. He thinks Monte is the only reason Lane has the reputation for being thought of as a good coach. (I like Plaster, but his opinion is probably the least valuable on there when they speaking about coaching and/or game plans.)
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You are right about Plaster. I was talking about the morning show. I did not make that clear. Sorry.
 
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Bill King is the Phillip Fulmer of talk radio. He is old school and does not adapt to the ever-changing world of college football. Athletes these days are looking for something sexy. Kiffin is the type of coach that will allow UT to become "popular" again. In other words, he would be more likely to open up spring practice, like Florida did, to ESPN cameras. This is where King and Fulmer have been passed up. Bill King touted others for the job, mainly those who have had head coaching experience in college football (Kelley--whose interest in UT lessened when the Notre Dame soap opera came about, Todd Graham at Tulsa--who may have never been in the fold at UT). It seems that he feels that you have to go thru the same coaching mill that other, older coaches have been thru. You know the type where you have to spend x number of years as a position coach, then so many years as a coordinator, followed by this number of years as a lower divison coach before you can even smell a big name school's head coaching position (See Urban Meyer, Bob Stoops, Mark Richt as folks who did not follow this model). OLD SCHOOL!!! Seeing the reaction of players with whom Kiffin has met with, I don't believe that they would have reacted the same if Kelley was sitting in their living room.

Mike Hamilton understands what Tennessee needs, someone who is a relentless recruiter (as we have seen by Kiffin's mind-blowing travels) and someone who could sell the program. It will be important to have a coach who makes great decisions. I believe that Kiffin has worked for great X's & O's coaches (Pat Hill, Jeff Tedford, & Pete Carroll) and has been around the game forever because of his dad. Even though his stint in the NFL was short, you could see he was as successful as someone could be with the Raiders and Al Davis. I believe that Chris Mortensen's words about how structured and well thought out Kiffin's practices were at Oakland prove that he is a great manager of a program. He has proven he can recruit big time athletes. He just needs to prove that he can manage a major college program as the CEO. I believe that his experience in Oakland will allow him to do fine as a CEO of Tennessee Football. We will see his management prowess once his staff is introduced and he allows the coaches to coach while he manages the decision making for the program.

As a Nashvillian, I have grown tired of listening to Bill King and Joe Biddle (Spurrier jock sniffer) on 560 am. My only wish is that Free Beer and Hot Wings was broadcast in the afternoons as I have nothing really to listen to. Plaster and crew do nothing but talk about the NFL (I hate that John McClain guy and his lispy, whispy gay voice) and try to hide their loyalty to Vandy. Thom Abraham on 106.7 the fan is ok to listen to, but sometimes he gets on my nerves. He does cover more of the UT stuff, so I do listen to him more. I wish satellite radio would broadcast Basilio, so I could listen to his show like during my UT days.
 
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peaygolf89 said:
You are right about Plaster. I was talking about the morning show. I did not make that clear. Sorry.
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I get so tired of Plaster and that afternoon show. They are not enteraining at all. They do a good job of bringing guests on and interviews but other than that I think they are boring.
The morning show is great due to the diverse personalities they have.

All in all drive home nashville sports radion stinks.
 
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