Biggest issue...Why was Greg S the best we could get?

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Is this what we are now? We can only attract 3rd rate coaches? Now how do we get a step down from that? What's going on with our program?
 
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Cause he prob was the only one that said yes and Currie thought this was a slam dunk hire having no clue or pulse of what the fanbase or culture of Tennessee football
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Currie never wanted anyone else. Schiano was his guy before CBJ was fired.
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This, all day.

There is no way that many coaches told us no, unless Currie purposefully lowballed the contract amount or GS was his target from the get go.

And from what AV said in other threads, it does appear that GS was the one and only target.
 
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zydane47 said:
This, all day.

There is no way that many coaches told us no, unless Currie purposefully lowballed the contract amount or GS was his target from the get go.

And from what AV said in other threads, it does appear that GS was the one and only target.
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Jus unbelievable to think about this
 
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Greg S was not the best we could get... he's who incompetent Currie thought was the best.

Currie is your ding dong facebook friend constantly posting to bring Cutcliffe home (before yesterday).
 
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volberry said:
Is this what we are now? We can only attract 3rd rate coaches? Now how do we get a step down from that? What's going on with our program?
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I think there was minimal effort made to get anyone but him. It all seems to point that way in the Currie statement.
 
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I'm not a fan of Colin Cowherd, but he put it perfectly:

Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) on Twitter

The SEC is becoming toxic for coaches. The expectations aren't just high, they're damn near unattainable. Why do you think Chip Kelly took the UCLA job? The Florida job is MILES better.

Mark Richt is the perfect recent example of the toxicity he alluded to. 145-51 as Georgia's head coach, and never missed a bowl game. Fired after going 10-4, 12-2, 8-5, 10-3, 9-3 in his last 5 seasons. That's ludicrous.

Obviously Georgia got lucky and ended up with a good one in Kirby Smart, assuming he isn't just winning with the cabinet full of talent Richt left.

We'll never know, but I would love to find out how many coaches said no before Schiano, assuming he wasn't just a Haslam shoe-in, which it appears he may have been.
 
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They were trying to scoot buy on an avg SEC salary so they could throw $300 million at stadium renovations.
 
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tennbjj said:
I'm not a fan of Colin Cowherd, but he put it perfectly:

Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) on Twitter

The SEC is becoming toxic for coaches. The expectations aren't just high, they're damn near unattainable. Why do you think Chip Kelly took the UCLA job? The Florida job is MILES better.

Mark Richt is the perfect recent example of the toxicity he alluded to. 145-51 as Georgia's head coach, and never missed a bowl game. Fired after going 10-4, 12-2, 8-5, 10-3, 9-3 in his last 5 seasons. That's ludicrous.

Obviously Georgia got lucky and ended up with a good one in Kirby Smart, assuming he isn't just winning with the cabinet full of talent Richt left.
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Maybe jus maybe Tennessee began this toxic envoirment by getting rid of one of its own, Fulmer.. somewhat gotta agree with him
 
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volberry said:
Is this what we are now? We can only attract 3rd rate coaches? Now how do we get a step down from that? What's going on with our program?
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First, Schiano wasn't a 3rd rate coach. Second, I don't think anyone here, myself included, can claim to know how Currie conducted this coaching search. But some of us are hellbent on acting like we know. "It was the Haslams!" "It was Currie!" "It was all a Gruden smoke screen!" "There was never any search!" "They ignored this coach." "They never reached out to that coach." Yeah. Whole lot of that going around.
 
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Volz4lif3 said:
Maybe jus maybe Tennessee began this toxic envoirment by getting rid of one of its own, Fulmer.. somewhat gotta agree with him
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The toxic environment for coaches is one of many reasons other conferences have caught up to the SEC. I'm not saying we should settle by any means, but the way coaches are tossed around and treated like trash, do you blame someone, especially if they are a family man, for saying "no thanks, I'll take 20% less money and go coach where my family can live in peace"?
 
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Because Currie was told by Haslam that he was the guy and noone else. Haslam has been in love with him as a coach since he was fired from Tampa and even let the idea of hiring him destroy the Browns front office. The sad part is even he still went with a different option and apparently thought he could use UT to rebuild Schianos reputation as a below average coach and a tyrant with little man syndrome.

Honestly the only reason Haslam let Butch get fired was because he wanted to bring in Schiano. So Schiano was the chose before Lyle was ever fired and why Currie didn't want any outsiders involved in the coaching search. Haslam told him who his guy was and I'm sure there was a nice under the table cash payment for making the hire without even looking at any other options.
 
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Voltopia said:
First, Schiano wasn't a 3rd rate coach. Second, I don't think anyone here, myself included, can claim to know how Currie conducted this coaching search. But some of us are hellbent on acting like we know. "It was the Haslams!" "It was Currie!" "It was all a Gruden smoke screen!" "There was never any search!" "They ignored this coach." "They never reached out to that coach." Yeah. Whole lot of that going around.
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If you read Currie's statement the answer to all of this post is right there.
 
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He wasn't by far. He was Currie's #1 all along, THAT IS THE ISSUE. Currie cannot get run out of Knoxville fast enough, and dumb*** Davenport for hiring him!
 
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Voltopia said:
First, Schiano wasn't a 3rd rate coach. Second, I don't think anyone here, myself included, can claim to know how Currie conducted this coaching search. But some of us are hellbent on acting like we know. "It was the Haslams!" "It was Currie!" "It was all a Gruden smoke screen!" "There was never any search!" "They ignored this coach." "They never reached out to that coach." Yeah. Whole lot of that going around.
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when the powers that be have no transparency, troll the fan base, and then refuse to own up to the debacle, this is what happens.
 
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You have to pitch the job to good candidates. You’re not going to get a name brand coach if you don’t. Maybe Currie doesn’t feel comfortable doing that and that is the reason we don’t have a coach yet. There is no reason a program with the revenue, facilities, passionate fan base, and rich tradition that Tennessee has couldn’t land one of the big names available.
 
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If Currie set his cap at $4 million/year, that narrowed the field drastically, and then he had Haslam in the background telling him that Shiano is the guy.
 
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So simple...No coach looking for anything more than a paycheck is willing to bow to the Haslam family. That is the problem and has been the problem, it's not crazy fans. To win in the SEC, the program has to be separated from the family that owns the bottom dwellings Cleveland Browns.
 
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