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If I were AD I would offer Peterson HUGE HUGE money and make him really turn down epic money. He won't leave Washington, but I say you have to offer and try. If he says no, than okay. But, make him say no.

After Peterson tells me no, I offer Chip Kelly tons of money. Probably not nearly what I would offer Peterson, but relatively close. Again, I would make him say no.

After Kelly says no, I move to Bobby Petrino. I offer him a ton of money and probably close to what I'd offer Kelly. Only because I think he's worth it. The man knows football and gets a lot out of a little. He developes QBs and skill positions very well. Has an excellent record doing so. It's undeniable. Anyone who says otherwise is just lying. I would tilt the contract for Petrino heavily in favor of UT though. It would be structured as a long term deal keeping the thumb pressed on him to stay long term and it would have clauses favorable to UT if he decides to get all immoral and stuff again. He would owe UT financially if something occured....

After Petrino, I would offer Miles. Not that I'm in love with Miles, but I think Miles would have a solid staff and recruiting would be very competitive. Why? Because he's done it. He's been there and done that. I actually would have confidence in UT being very physical again. Big and strong and deep upfront. Run heavy. Great defense....you know the deal...

After Miles I would go after Brohm, Kiffin (yes Kiffin) and those types. Young and extremely knowledgable football wise. Both are great coaches.....

Frost would be a homerun hire for me, but I'd always know in the back of my mind, he would want to relive the glory days at Nebraska. I would know that the first glimmer of success at UT, Nebraska would bring in the Brink truck. I would not get in a bidding war with Nebraska over Scott. So, I probably don't want that problem at all....it would be a continuous rumor mill.....
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I look at Venables like I use to look at Chief, does he want that responsibility ? He's in a pretty good spot.
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Exactly....one of the highest paid coordinators in the country, if not THE highest paid. He can live like a king ten times over on a couple million/year up there on the lake. Why leave that setup for all the stress of rebuilding/running a program for just a few extra bucks?
 
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A.D. is in a tough spot. Fire bUTch and pay his buy out, then not able to find any coach that is a real improvement over bUTch, so we end up hiring another coach like bUTch. If you can't find better, then just keep bUTch and avoid wasting money on someone else's buy out.


ALSO THE A.D. MAY ALREADY KNOW THAT BUTCH IS BEING SOUGHT OUT BY ANOTHER COLLEGE. Why fire butch when you are confident that he will leave here and go to Oregon State etc.? Let butch leave on his own accord and we will not be responsible for his buy out.?

With us on the "outside looking in" we have no idea what is really going on. We can only speculate.

(1) could be they want to wait to ensure that he doesn't make it to a bowl game (2) could be another school is interested in him and we want to avoid his buy out. (3) could be that we are actively looking for his replacement and won't fire him until the new coach is in our pocket 100%. (4) also could be that the major boosters are instructing the A.D. to not fire butch yet.
 
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esarmstrong said:
Frost is Nebraska bound.
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Not if Tennessee offers. We're a significantly better job.

Nebraska has no instate talent base. Tennessee is on it's way to being top 5 if the 2019 and 2020 classes are the new normal.

Unless he doesn't care about be coming a championship head coach, it makes no sense to pick Nebraska over Tennessee.
 
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Slyman35 said:
Exactly....one of the highest paid coordinators in the country, if not THE highest paid. He can live like a king ten times over on a couple million/year up there on the lake. Why leave that setup for all the stress of rebuilding/running a program for just a few extra bucks?
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Even if he feels that way the AD hasn't done his job if he doesn't talk to the man.
 
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Rudy123 said:
A.D. is in a tough spot. Fire bUTch and pay his buy out, then not able to find any coach that is a real improvement over bUTch, so we end up hiring another coach like bUTch. If you can't find better, then just keep bUTch and avoid wasting money on someone else's buy out.


ALSO THE A.D. MAY ALREADY KNOW THAT BUTCH IS BEING SOUGHT OUT BY ANOTHER COLLEGE. Why fire butch when you are confident that he will leave here and go to Oregon State etc.? Let butch leave on his own accord and we will not be responsible for his buy out.?

With us on the "outside looking in" we have no idea what is really going on. We can only speculate.

(1) could be they want to wait to ensure that he doesn't make it to a bowl game (2) could be another school is interested in him and we want to avoid his buy out. (3) could be that we are actively looking for his replacement and won't fire him until the new coach is in our pocket 100%. (4) also could be that the major boosters are instructing the A.D. to not fire butch yet.
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I know what you mean. It is problematic. But, sometimes you have to cut your losses. I think if Butch stays, the program could literally plummet below the surface of the ground. That's where it's trending. I think there are too many options to just have to settle all over again...especially if the decision is made sooner than later. Like in the next 2 weeks sooner....3 weeks at the very most. Very most...
 
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OLEVOLFAN said:
The only big time hire out of those would be venables Imo.
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a "big time" hire. He's never been a head coach. We've seen over and over again that hiring coordinators is a major risk--many of them fail. Roll of the dice, and that's not what we should be doing.
 
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Patterson is at the program he built with his own two hands and will never worry about a job. He already has a statue. He’s not leaving TCU. Period.

Petersen has a son with medical needs that are best served in the city of Seattle. He’s not leaving.

I don’t want Fleck. Looking like Butch 2.0 at this point. Ex-Michigan-directional school coach that makes lots of cute cliche’s. No thank you.

Dan Mullen’s Star has wained at this point. I think he is a better coach than Butch. For sure. But he’s not worth his large buyout at this point.

I like Justin Wilcox. He has Cal performing very well right now. I think I saw somewhere that Cal was one of the bottom 10 teams in history of cfb in road games or something like that? I can’t rememer. But they are bottom 10 in something important. Lol. But they are playing WAY above their talent level right now.

I like Mike Norvell. He has Memphis churning. Probably the 2nd best team in Tennessee right now. He knows offense and took one of our transfers that Butch couldn’t coach up and turned him into a rifle armed QB.

I like Jeff Brohm. He’s got the attitude of a HC. He’s in a power 5 conference now and is competing well considering he is at Purdue. Playing their top teams hard with what I can imagine is less than Vanderbilt/Kentucky talent.

James Franklin needs a phone call. His buyout isn’t huge and he rebuilt a program that was torn to pieces by the worst scandal in cfb history. He needs a phone call and an offer. It would be irresponsible not to offer him 3rd after Kelly and Gruden. Penn State is the only other team outside of Alabama that looks like a steamroller this season so far.
 
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Jim Bob Cooter or Brent Venables. Don't know if you would consider Cooter big time, but he has the pedigree.
 
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Don’t flame me but how about someone like Josh McDaniaels? He seems to have the Pats offense always explosive.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not if Tennessee offers. We're a significantly better job.

Nebraska has no instate talent base. Tennessee is on it's way to being top 5 if the 2019 and 2020 classes are the new normal.

Unless he doesn't care about be coming a championship head coach, it makes no sense to pick Nebraska over Tennessee.
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LOL Thats like saying Peyton would rather coach LSU than UT, because its easier to win. :good!:
 
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The only "realistic" homerun hires are Gruden and Chip Kelly and by all accounts we wont even speak to Kelly so it's Gruden or bust. Only Frost has shown the potential to be a big-time coach so far, everyone else will be a marginal hire.
 
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Slyman35 said:
Venebles isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. His boy just signed with the Tigers as well. He's just a defense nut, as I understand from some Clemson fellows....no interest at all in running the whole show
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His son hasn't signed with anyone, he's a 2018 recruit. He can take his son wherever he goes. He was thought to be #1 on the Oklahoma list when Stoops retired. Guarantee if momma calls, he's going to K State. Dabo says BV is waiting on the right fit. Sounds like he is waiting on Snyder to retire (again)
 
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I've pretty much done my homework on Gruden, Patterson, & Brohm and am working on Frost. I came across this article from Nebraska that is a pretty good read.

LINCOLN, Neb. — It’s a watercolor from hell, funereal, the shades of grey in Big Red Nation extending to the skies above. A windy, dreary Monday feels more like early December than the second week of October. The line of Big Ten flags hanging in front of Brewsky’s in the Haymarket district flap loudly and angrily, and the mood inside isn’t all that kinder.

“People are pretty down,” explains David Wacker, Brewsky’s general manager. “There’s a lot of people that are railing about how disappointed they are right now. They’re really down.”

Like most locals, Wacker is a lifelong Nebraska Cornhuskers football fan. And like most locals, the Huskers of present (3-3, 2-1 Big Ten) are driving him slowly up a brick wall.

Last Saturday saw the beloved Big Red snap a 20-game night-game winning streak at raucous Memorial Stadium with a 38-17 defeat to Big Ten West favorite Wisconsin. The 358th straight sellout crowd on Stadium Drive watched the No. 7 Badgers ramble for 353 yards and rush for 3 touchdowns.

“You can see it after the games,” Wacker says of his customers. “You can see it on Sundays. During Sunday is the biggest time that they’re talking about it.”

He’s worked in Lincoln for almost a decade now, watching Nebraska football endure better and worse, sickness and health.

“This is my third coach,” he laughs.

On Sunday, several Brewsky’s patrons posited whether Scott Frost, coach of No. 22 Central Florida and the quarterback of the Huskers’ 1997 national co-champions, ought to be Wacker’s fourth.

“Every week, someone brings it up,” he says.

“They bring up Frost and they bring up Bob Stoops, as if Bob would want to come here. And they bring up Les Miles, and how Les Miles’ kid [fullback Ben Miles] is here. These ridiculous names come up. But Frost is definitely the most [discussed].”

The tribe looks at Wisconsin and they see themselves, not that long ago. They look at Frost and they see hope — a bridge from the glorious past to a glorious future.

“All people talked about was Scott Frost, mostly,” Wacker muses, “and how they really want to see him come in and how he’s doing such a good job at Central Florida.”

With that, Wacker pauses.

“He also hasn’t played anybody.”

The more the Knights (4-0) keep winning and the more the Huskers keep getting kicked in the teeth, the longer Lincoln’s line for The Frost Bandwagon extends down the block.

And yet among Huskers faithful, it’s worth noting that the bandwagon isn’t completely full, either. At 42 years old and in just his second full season as a college head coach, some Nebraska fans say Frost is still too inexperienced to step up to a stage where the spotlight burns this hot and this bright.

Others counter that his bloodlines — the son of two coaches and a native of Wood River, Neb. — and firsthand knowledge of Huskers culture, Huskers history, the Huskers Way, is exactly the shot in the arm a proud but inconsistent program needs to fix what ails it.

On at least two points, though, Big Red fans almost universally agree. First, that watching the Badgers do to them what the Huskers did to everyone else for more than four decades — Wisconsin ran the ball 22 times without throwing a pass in the fourth quarter last Saturday, closing out the contest on a 14-0 run — is getting old.

And second, that some Power 5 program with gobs of money is probably ramping up to throw a bunch of it at Frost’s feet soon, assuming they haven’t thrown it already.

It’s the second part, really, that changes the stakes, to say nothing of the urgency. If Frost is your guy, your solution, you might have to bid — and then overbid — for him now, or risk not getting another shot for five years, six years, or forever.

“It’s going to be a bidding war for him,” says Splattstoesser, an IT professional who’s been coming to Huskers games since his grandparents first brought him with their season tickets back in 1992.

“It feels like the boosters are what’s driving a lot of this — the folks behind the scenes, they’re driving this. And so if they want Scott Frost, I feel they’ll put up the money and they’re the ones that are not going to want to give Riley another year. And I think he deserves another year.

“I’d like to keep Riley around, because this recruiting class is going to be pretty good. But at the same time, if Nebraska wants Scott Frost, they’re probably going to have to go out and get him this year. Tennessee, UCLA, Texas A&M, Arizona, Arizona State, Arkansas are all going to have openings. Once he hits a major program, he’s going to stay there for a while. So I’m kind of waffling on it.”
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There's more to the article at this link:

Why not every Nebraska Cornhuskers fan in Lincoln is pining for Scott Frost
 
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