Big 12 adding 4 schools

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BUBear said:
If USC and Oregon decided to move to the BIG, where people still care about college football, and start cashing big checks? Yes they would.
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Not really. The PAC-12 remnant would still be the more stable of the two conferences at that point compared to the remnants of the Big 12. If anything, you could see movement flow the opposite direction: the PAC pulling in a Big 12 team or two (or something like UNLV)…which I guess would give a Big 12 team or two a hope of landing in another conference in that scenario. But that’d really be about it as far as pieces of one of these conferences going to the other.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Not really. The PAC-12 remnant would still be the more stable of the two conferences at that point compared to the remnants of the Big 12. If anything, you could see movement flow the opposite direction: the PAC pulling in a Big 12 team or two (or something like UNLV)…which I guess would give a Big 12 team or two a hope of landing in another conference in that scenario. But that’d really be about it as far as pieces of one of these conferences going to the other.
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I can't find it now (but I'll keep looking) but it was a graphic of TV ratings for the past five years. Anyways, if Oklahoma State were in the PAC 12 they would would be the 3rd highest rated team in the PAC with TCU 4th and Baylor 6th. TCU ratings were skewed because of 7.5 million viewers that watched them open the season against Ohio State a few years ago but you have to keep in mind that TV money is what drives the ship now and that TCU and Baylor are small private schools with small living alumni basses. In what universe would 7.5 million people watch Stanford (or Vandy) do anything? For that matter, Cal Berkeley (large, state flagship school) couldn't even average 750k in that time period.
 
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I can tell you we watch big 12 in ohio. They are probably on fox often, but the day USUALLY goes.... big 10 early, followed by big 12 in the afternoon, followed by SEC in primetime. That's usually the way it works up here.... unless you pay for the SEC channel like me.
 
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This has gotten ridiculous. 12 teams were too many and they just keep doubling down on crazy.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
I can tell you we watch big 12 in ohio. They are probably on fox often, but the day USUALLY goes.... big 10 early, followed by big 12 in the afternoon, followed by SEC in primetime. That's usually the way it works up here.... unless you pay for the SEC channel like me.
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This sounds like the average Texan and probably the average American.
 
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Did Andre's Heisman fall off the shelf and smack in the head?

Former Coog, Andre Ware had said a week or two ago that the Big XII was a "lateral move" for Houston. He wanted UH to hold out for the PAC 12. I chalked it up to him being under the influence.

Had Houston listened to Ware, they would still be in the AAC, while Memphis would be in the Big XII.
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stolitonic said:
Yes, they certainly cooouuuuullllldddd do that.

Or, they could see the amount of $ they would expect to see from expanding the playoff to 12 and fall over themselves rushing to vote to approve.

When in doubt, always choose the side with the money to win.
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looks like expansion lost this round. it this holds, Texas and Oklahoma may have to reconsider. at the least, both would wait the full contractual five years.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
looks like expansion lost this round. it this holds, Texas and Oklahoma may have to reconsider. at the least, both would wait the full contractual five years.
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$80M exit fees each plus they will probably want to take their Tier 1&2 TV rights with them too. BIG XII with zero reasons to negotiate with OU and Texas 🤔🤔🤔
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
looks like expansion lost this round. it this holds, Texas and Oklahoma may have to reconsider. at the least, both would wait the full contractual five years.
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Yeah, saw that they had basically delayed the vote and were now talking about an 8 team playoff.

Still believe that mid December comes along and one or most likely two P5 conferences get locked out there will be some movement. The $$ involved here is simply staggering and schools are going to lose interest in cutting off their nose to spite their face.

B12 is kind of a joke. Oklahoma looks pedestrian at best. Even if they make it into the playoffs they are gonna get curb stomped.

ACC-Clemson is waaaaayyyyy down this season-and they are still the best the conference has to offer. Could easily see them shut out.

B10- one of Ohio State, Michigan, or Pedo State will emerge in the end and get in on name alone. Only way that doesn't happen is if they beat each other up and all have two losses.

P12-Oregon is a maybe if they hold it together. I'm not sold on them though. Usc always plays better under interim coaches so I could easily see them beating Oregon in the P12 championship.

ND-nah. They will pick up a loss or two along the way unless something changes. USC maybe. Perhaps even whisky at Soldier Field this weekend.
 
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The New BIG XII:



Others receiving votes:
Clemson 96, Texas A&M 41, Oregon State 27, Baylor 24, Mississippi State 18, Virginia Tech 13, Stanford 11, UTSA 10, Pittsburgh 6, Fresno State 5, Texas Tech 4, Western Michigan 3, Appalachian State 2, Kansas State 2, Boston College 1, UCLA 1
 
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C/O said:
The new big 12 would have 3 ranked?
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Baylor will be back in when we beat WVU this coming weekend.
The next three games:

WVU (-3)
#10 BYU
Open date
#21 Texas

All in Waco
 
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The new Big 12 will be a fun conference to watch. If you look at the conference top to bottom, only Kansas is completely incapable of winning it from year to year in football. And a good coaching hire could fix that. Yeah, the geography is messy, but what choice did they have? If the 12 team playoff happens, they are in a good spot.
 
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