Big 10+1 Commisioner

#229
#229
tvolsfan said:
Let me just say this. If Peyton was the God some people seem to think he is, then he would have won more than one region. (the south) It wasn't just a bunch of northerner that thought Woodson was deserving. No one here has actually tried to convince me that he was. No one year would actually give respect to a Michigan player. Basically from what I know that year. Manning was a stat machine. And if the award was supposed to go to a stat machine, then fine. But it was supposed to go to Most Outsanding Player, and Woodson was in my eyes, and the eyes of many, the most outstanding player. Some of you may be bias towards Manning, I don't know. But obviously, since I was young, I wasn't worshiping the ground Manning walked on. I view that year with very little bias, and I just don't see how anyone was more deserving than Woodson.
Click to expand...

The process did seem extremely biased. "Highlights" of the two seemed to focus on Woodson making INTs and Manning throwing them. Even at the awards banquet, I think they mentioned some shortcomings of Peyton.
 
#232
#232
tvolsfan said:
Let me just say this. If Peyton was the God some people seem to think he is, then he would have won more than one region. (the south) It wasn't just a bunch of northerner that thought Woodson was deserving. No one here has actually tried to convince me that he was. No one year would actually give respect to a Michigan player. Basically from what I know that year. Manning was a stat machine. And if the award was supposed to go to a stat machine, then fine. But it was supposed to go to Most Outsanding Player, and Woodson was in my eyes, and the eyes of many, the most outstanding player. Some of you may be bias towards Manning, I don't know. But obviously, since I was young, I wasn't worshiping the ground Manning walked on. I view that year with very little bias, and I just don't see how anyone was more deserving than Woodson.
Click to expand...

If we use this logic, all Reggie Bush was, was a stat machine...
 
#235
#235
tvolsfan said:
Let me just say this. If Peyton was the God some people seem to think he is, then he would have won more than one region. (the south) It wasn't just a bunch of northerner that thought Woodson was deserving. No one here has actually tried to convince me that he was. No one year would actually give respect to a Michigan player. Basically from what I know that year. Manning was a stat machine. And if the award was supposed to go to a stat machine, then fine. But it was supposed to go to Most Outsanding Player, and Woodson was in my eyes, and the eyes of many, the most outstanding player. Some of you may be bias towards Manning, I don't know. But obviously, since I was young, I wasn't worshiping the ground Manning walked on. I view that year with very little bias, and I just don't see how anyone was more deserving than Woodson.
Click to expand...

So you think the measure of outstanding is a subjective thing?
 
#238
#238
tvolsfan said:
Fine, just because it does go to stat machines sometimes (and 2000 yards is certainly no small task), doesn't mean it should always go to someone else. Who would you have given it to in 1998 anyways.
Click to expand...

It's a ridiculous argument. Ricky Williams was insane. He kept Priest Holmes on the bench. Nobody deserved it more that year.
 
#242
#242
tvolsfan said:
Reggie Bush was amazing. I'm not even sure he had the best stats, but I didn't expect anything other than a lanslide after his performances.
Click to expand...

He had tremendous stats. Some of the best yardage ever. I still think Vince Young should have gotten more consideration. He was good enough to at least make it competitive.
 
#243
#243
tvolsfan said:
Fine, just because it does go to stat machines sometimes (and 2000 yards is certainly no small task), doesn't mean it should always go to someone else. Who would you have given it to in 1998 anyways.
Click to expand...

Never mind, you answered my previous question.
 
#245
#245
kptvol said:
He had tremendous stats. Some of the best yardage ever. I still think Vince Young should have gotten more consideration. He was good enough to at least make it competitive.
Click to expand...

If the award was handed out after bowls, it was Young in a lanslide.
 
#246
#246
kptvol said:
He had tremendous stats. Some of the best yardage ever. I still think Vince Young should have gotten more consideration. He was good enough to at least make it competitive.
Click to expand...

I know Fresno State isn't a powerhouse, but how many yards did he have that game?

I also remember he rushed for 175 yards in the first quarter against UCLA.
 
#247
#247
Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Don't confuse negativity with realism.
Realistically, how many QB's have you ever seen make a 180 the way Ainge did? It just doesn't happen often. Prior history would have suggested Ainge would had Steve Sax Syndrome...
Click to expand...

I watched him his freshman year and he did good. I realized that Sanders was a terrible coach and that Cutcliffe had worked wonders with QBs before. After the Cal game, I was never concerned again about Ainge
 
#248
#248
tvolsfan said:
If the award was handed out after bowls, it was Young in a lanslide.
Click to expand...

He was impressive in the regular season, as well. At least good enough to where I don't think Reggie should have won in the third largest landslide ever.
 
#249
#249
tvolsfan said:
Fine, just because it does go to stat machines sometimes (and 2000 yards is certainly no small task), doesn't mean it should always go to someone else. Who would you have given it to in 1998 anyways.
Click to expand...

Well, since the template had already been set with Woodson, why not Champ Bailey? :ermm:
 
#250
#250
kptvol said:
He was impressive in the regular season, as well. At least good enough to where I don't think Reggie should have won in the third largest landslide ever.
Click to expand...

It may not have been that people thought he was that much better, but a ton of people thought he was a little better.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top