Biden wants 3 month mandate on Masks

[615vols]

bfd. How big of a deal is it to wear the mask when buying your Totinos Pizza Rolls at Kroger?

The number of suburban white men screeching about the prospect of having to temporarily wear a piece of cloth over their faces is fascinating and hilarious.

The irony is that the lack of a clear, consistent message from the dotard in chief in an attempt to downplay and brush aside the infectiousness of covid will be his downfall. Irrespective of how deadly it is, the prolonging of having no strategy to short circuit the disease on a federal level is astonishing. American exceptionalism? LOL, we're the laughing stock of the world.

You must have a really hard time understanding things that you read. The post you quoted literally says “I’m all for masks inside brick and mortar establishments and confined crowded-outdoor areas”, and your response is to ask him how big of a deal it is to wear a mask inside Kroger? If you want to know what’s hilarious or see a laughingstock, take a good look at yourself. You cannot even comprehend simple posts. Half the time you’re posting absolute garbage and then when called on it proceed to admit you didn’t know the facts. What at a fu***** clown.

 

[allvol123]

Why just 3 months? Hasnt he seen New Zealand? 102 days no cases. Now new cases 3 days in a row.

 

[0nelilreb]

You must have a really hard time understanding things that you read. The post you quoted literally says “I’m all for masks inside brick and mortar establishments and confined crowded-outdoor areas”, and your response is to ask him how big of a deal it is to wear a mask inside Kroger? If you want to know what’s hilarious or see a laughingstock, take a good look at yourself. You cannot even comprehend simple posts. Half the time you’re posting absolute garbage and then when called on it proceed to admit you didn’t know the facts. What at a fu***** clown.

Septic use to be much better at trolling . I think he maybe coming down with the Biden syndrome. The wheel still turns but the ends of the cables are corroded and the connection is faulty .

 

[615vols]

I've already pointed out where not only are we not exceptional in terms of choice, we're not even in the top 15 amongst our peers with 'freedom'.

Yeah, that must be why immigrants from all over the world flock to the United States. People literally die trying to enter the country. But according to septic here, not exceptional In terms of choice or even top 15 in freedom. I’ve already pointed out how full of absolute sh** you are, here’s further evidence for all to see.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

You should do that. It would help the environment. One less mouth breather.

Christlike post alert! Christlike post alert!

 

[615vols]

Septic use to be much better at trolling . I think he maybe coming down with the Biden syndrome. The wheel still turns but the ends of the cables are corroded and the connection is faulty .

I must have missed the good trolling. Any post of his I’ve seen has been complete horse sh**. I’m talking completely brainless.

 

[lawgator1]

In "your" opinion

Whose opinion do you expect me to have?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Why just 3 months? Hasnt he seen New Zealand? 102 days no cases. Now new cases 3 days in a row.

But, I thought if we just followed directions, the virus would disappear????

 

[hUTch2002]

They are effective but not fullproof per the NBC lab test I watched and then later a study published by the University of Iowa. Individual Medical professionals have can be biased also or just not as educated on the topic as other medical professionals. If a person has COVID and coughs or sneezes in close proximity to you wearing a mask then it can stop you from being infected. The reverse is also true. It does not take a rocket scientist to consider this plausible.


As far as the decisions being made in your area ? IDHAF clue. The local politicians seem to be even more clueless than the politicians on the national stage.

I understand where you’re coming from. I’m not saying they don’t help at all. I definitely agree on the local politicians across the country. Interesting times for sure.

 

[hUTch2002]

Ehh, those are anecdotal cliches'.

I'm looking for a loosely quantifiable spot where we can plant a flag of superiority. The 'American' dream and "rags to riches" are cliches'. I think there's been a widening chasm between classes and upward mobility.

Indeed they are but that’s what some cling to when they try to define American exceptionalism. I’m not saying people on here are doing such as I haven’t read other responses but many turn to those cliches. I suppose you could turn to various economic measures like we are the world’s second largest exporter. With that comes jobs/opportunity and power. The largest is China but they don’t have near the freedoms we do. I’m sure we could keep trying to come up with things but that one seems like a decent place to start. I’m tired so I’ll leave further measures to better minds than mine.

 

[ajvol01]

I think arguments could be made than other countries have just as much, if not more "freedom". Would it surprise you to find that the U.S. ranks 17th in the world in in index that measures a number of freedoms?

Hong Kong at #3 is inaccurate.

What good is having marginally higher freedom index rating if those freedoms are not guaranteed by a constitution?

 

[hog88]

Hong Kong at #3 is inaccurate.

What good is having marginally higher freedom index rating if those freedoms are not guaranteed by a constitution?

I’ve read that article before and it’s complete horse ****.

 

[ajvol01]

I’ve read that article before and it’s complete horse ****.

That doesn’t matter. It’s all about trolling. I don’t think he actually cares about anything.

 

[volbeast33]

Why just 3 months? Hasnt he seen New Zealand? 102 days no cases. Now new cases 3 days in a row.

Yep need to go for herd immunity..... every single time that people come out of hiding it will flare back up again.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Yep need to go for herd immunity..... every single time that people come out of hiding it will flare back up again.

2020-08-13 - I'm RIGHT and PROOF Masks ARE USELESS

 

[utvolpj]

I think arguments could be made than other countries have just as much, if not more "freedom". Would it surprise you to find that the U.S. ranks 17th in the world in in index that measures a number of freedoms?

So a country that fines and locks you up for insulting someone online has greater freedoms than the US? A country whose communist leaders are stifling protests is more free than the US? Let's just say I'm skeptical of the ranking criteria

 

[midnight orange]

Hong Kong at #3 is inaccurate.

What good is having marginally higher freedom index rating if those freedoms are not guaranteed by a constitution?

All while we’re under quasi - Marshall law. Some small business owners are going broke because their businesses are shut down by decree. Constitutions offer the illusion of freedom while allowing now what is the largest and most expensive government in the history of the world. Here is an excerpt from the USSR constitution under Stalin:

“ARTICLE 125. In conformity with the interests of the working people, and in order to strengthen the socialist system, the citizens of the U.S.S.R. are guaranteed by law:
a. freedom of speech;
b. freedom of the press;
c. freedom of assembly, including the holding of mass meetings;
d. freedom of street processions and demonstrations.
These civil rights are ensured by placing at the disposal of the working people and their organizations printing presses, stocks of paper, public buildings, the streets, communications facilities and other material requisites for the exercise of these rights.”

 

[ajvol01]

2020-08-13 - I'm RIGHT and PROOF Masks ARE USELESS

Amazing video that everyone should watch.

Hawaii numbers especially

 

[Septic]

So a county that fines and locks you up for insulting someone online has greater freedoms than the US? A country whose communist leaders are stifling protests is more free than the US? Let's just say I'm skeptical of the ranking criteria

Stifling protests like hurling pepper balls or tear gas into the crowd for photo ops or getting arrested for calling a policeman a dirty cop on facebook? I think the study looks at broad areas of freedom and indexes them across human, personal and economic terms. That said, the study was done prior to the Hong Kong issues, so for arguments sake - lets take that one out of the mix, now we sit at sixteen.

If you and @hog88 or @ajvol01 would like to dive into the ranking criteria, be my guest. https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org...ex-files/human-freedom-index-2018-revised.pdf

 

[Septic]

I must have missed the good trolling. Any post of his I’ve seen has been complete horse sh**. I’m talking completely brainless.

Probably because you don't understand; you seem both angry, and for lack of a better term, basic.

 

[Septic]

Yeah, that must be why immigrants from all over the world flock to the United States. People literally die trying to enter the country. But according to septic here, not exceptional In terms of choice or even top 15 in freedom. I’ve already pointed out how full of absolute sh** you are, here’s further evidence for all to see.

This 'immigration' argument would make sense if citizens of other first world peers were flocking to the U.S.

Thumping your chest because the mistreated citizens of third world countries are doing so isn't the proof of "exceptionalism" that you think it is.

 

[615vols]

This 'immigration' argument would make sense if citizens of other first world peers were flocking to the U.S.

Thumping your chest because the mistreated citizens of third world countries are doing so isn't the proof of "exceptionalism" that you think it is.

Well according to you we aren’t even in the top 15 in freedom and choice, so why is it that all of these people choose to flock to the states instead of one of these top 15 who are more free and allow more choice? You’ve made another in a long list of stupid arguments, congratulations.

 

[hog88]

Stifling protests like hurling pepper balls or tear gas into the crowd for photo ops or getting arrested for calling a policeman a dirty cop on facebook? I think the study looks at broad areas of freedom and indexes them across human, personal and economic terms. That said, the study was done prior to the Hong Kong issues, so for arguments sake - lets take that one out of the mix, now we sit at sixteen.

If you and @hog88 or @ajvol01 would like to dive into the ranking criteria, be my guest. https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org...ex-files/human-freedom-index-2018-revised.pdf

It must have also been done prior to New Zealand outlawing semi-automatic weapons and Australia instituting is hoodlum laws.

 

[LouderVol]

I think arguments could be made than other countries have just as much, if not more "freedom". Would it surprise you to find that the U.S. ranks 17th in the world in in index that measures a number of freedoms?

You may need to find an updated source. They still have Hong Kong way higher. Which is weird considering the chinese occupation, closed elections, travel bans etc.

Not that we have gotten any more free in the meantime.

And by pointing out how low we are on some of those charts all you are doing is making our argument. We are too low. The government keeps taking away from the people and the only solution given is more government. I think this link just gives some type of metric to say we have work to do. The government and society is taking away what some of us value.

And without being able to see how they weighted items their idea of freedom is probably not the same as mine. For instance access to health care is listed in one of their categories. That isnt an issue of "freedom" in my book. They seem to bounce back and forth between what a citizen can do vs a citizen has to do as matters of freedom. But without being able to see their specifics I couldnt say how, or if, they are wrong to do so

 

[hog88]

You may need to find an updated source. They still have Hong Kong way higher. Which is weird considering the chinese occupation, closed elections, travel bans etc.

Not that we have gotten any more free in the meantime.

And by pointing out how low we are on some of those charts all you are doing is making our argument. We are too low. The government keeps taking away from the people and the only solution given is more government. I think this link just gives some type of metric to say we have work to do. The government and society is taking away what some of us value.

And without being able to see how they weighted items their idea of freedom is probably not the same as mine. For instance access to health care is listed in one of their categories. That isnt an issue of "freedom" in my book. They seem to bounce back and forth between what a citizen can do vs a citizen has to do as matters of freedom. But without being able to see their specifics I couldnt say how, or if, they are wrong to do so

The study gives credit to countries that provide universal heathcare and other social "benefits" which to me invalidates it's findings. The more you rely on the government the less free you actually are.