Beverly Davenport did not sign MOU

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vols-1 said:
I went back and read it, and it looks like specific language was put in to give the University an out.
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Nice find. :good!:

Given that, why would any coach sign one?

The only way would be if it was signed by the university parties first. Otherwise, the coach is swinging in the wind.
 
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Giveem6 said:
Great work! Don't see schiano suing us though. Don't think he wants to take a stand in any form
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MOUs generally aren’t legally binding. They can be in some cases, however if the MOU specifically states that it must be fully executed then that’s probably that. In all actuality, UT will probably pay him less than a million to sign a settlement and go away.
 
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Boca Vol said:
But, if a coach signs it in good faith and leaves a job to do so then barring serious unforeseen actions it's pretty much binding, isn't it? Why would any coach sign one if they aren't?
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It gets everything in motion. The rest is USUALLY ceremonial. Even with all four signatures, both parties have 3 days to reconsider. Bobby Cremins was signed,sealed and delivered to return to his alma mater South Carolina. Reneges on the THIRD day and returns to Georgia Tech. Other stories out there, but that one I remember.
 
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I know at the end of the day, this is a business. And that’s what it is to the people up top. It’s all business to Currie and Davenport. None of it is personal. They are not personally invested in this University. They don’t feel the pain that we feel when our team is down and hurting. They don’t really get it like us who have lived UT football since our daddy’s and daddy’s daddy’s were pulling for UT, with all the ups and downs and in betweens. They don’t have to answer and defend our team when opposing fans ridicule and mock. We do. And that’s the problem. The boosters got all the money, but it’s us, the middle class working folk who are the backbone of this university. Jennings was right about one thing in his rant, it’s not about the money or the coaches, it’s about the players. This is for them. When you have the players’ best interest in mind, everything else will fall in line. Do what’s right for them.
 
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IngloriousBastard said:
MOUs generally aren’t legally binding. They can be in some cases, however if the MOU specifically states that it must be fully executed then that’s probably that. In all actuality, UT will probably pay him less than a million to sign a settlement and go away.
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Not if he's unable to get a job because of all the outrage. All these things written & said against him could be used in a libel/slander suit.

If he can prove that he was set to become UT's coach for $4-5 mill per year and he's been blackballed because of the actions of UT and its fans then he has a huge lawsuit to pursue.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
They way you shined that turd CBJ all those years makes me doubt the accuracy of your homer viewpoint. Let's just say I hope you're right.
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Yeah I get your agenda. Confusing on the wording. Aren’t we BOTH UT fans? Who am I being a “homer” for? Certainly not this coach. :dunno:
 
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The fact that Schiano is basically trying to extort money from UT should speak volumes on what kind of person he is.
 
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butchna said:
It gets everything in motion. The rest is USUALLY ceremonial. Even with all four signatures, both parties have 3 days to reconsider. Bobby Cremins was signed,sealed and delivered to return to his alma mater South Carolina. Reneges on the THIRD day and returns to Georgia Tech. Other stories out there, but that one I remember.
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I recall the Cremins deal...
 
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Boca Vol said:
Not if he's unable to get a job because of all the outrage. All these things written & said against him could be used in a libel/slander suit.

If he can prove that he was set to become UT's coach for $4-5 mill per year and he's been blackballed because of the actions of UT and its fans then he has a huge lawsuit to pursue.
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Wish him luck. Pretty thin. Confident he’ll enjoy being deposed on the Sandusky stuff.
 
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I believe the same thing happened to Mike Price. He signed an MOU but was fired before the contract was signed which would have included a buyout. So when they fired him he got nothing.
 
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JVol76 said:
The fact that Schiano is basically trying to extort money from UT should speak volumes on what kind of person he is.
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I don’t blame him. I was by no means for his hire, but don’t blame him at all for trying to get $$ out of it.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Not if he's unable to get a job because of all the outrage. All these things written & said against him could be used in a libel/slander suit.

If he can prove that he was set to become UT's coach for $4-5 mill per year and he's been blackballed because of the actions of UT and its fans then he has a huge lawsuit to pursue.
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Is he out of a job at OSU? He never officially was hired by us so unless OSU fired him we wouldn't owe him a damn thing right?
 
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Boca Vol said:
Not if he's unable to get a job because of all the outrage. All these things written & said against him could be used in a libel/slander suit.

If he can prove that he was set to become UT's coach for $4-5 mill per year and he's been blackballed because of the actions of UT and its fans then he has a huge lawsuit to pursue.
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Hold up. What specifically negative thing did the university say about him? I’m unaware of any. Now, if you mean someone like Clay Travis who talked it about it, then you may be on to something. However, since he is a public figure it would be much harder to sue for defamation. Even then, the fact that there is sworn testimony in a court saying he did makes this pretty much dead in the water from what I understand.
 
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I wonder if Schiano has much of a case. Leach lost his wrongful termination lawsuits against Texas Tech not on the merits but because court after court said that he couldn't sue the government in essence (sovereign immunity). Don't know if Tennessee is different (we did just pay millions for sexual harassment suit):

Why Mike Leach is angry about Texas Tech and sovereign immunity - SBNation.com
 
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I'm glad the university may be "off the hook". However...

...it make us look like a slick-suited, back-door insurance huxster. I can just imagine what other coaches are going to say regarding this to recruits. If I were a competing recruiter, I'd say,

"Look.....just look at how they handle their coaches....do you think you'll get better treatment? Better than the coach? They'll jerk your scholarship away so fast and for any reason they need it'll make your head spin. Here....we're all family. We treat each other like family. Stay away my friend....stay away from UT. Even coaches are staying away".

For this, and this reason alone, Currie needs to be shown the parking lot.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Not if he's unable to get a job because of all the outrage. All these things written & said against him could be used in a libel/slander suit.

If he can prove that he was set to become UT's coach for $4-5 mill per year and he's been blackballed because of the actions of UT and its fans then he has a huge lawsuit to pursue.
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You are confusing the actions of the university with the actions of the fanbase. Ask yourself, what exactly did the University say against Schiano that was slanderous? Absolutely nothing. We said nothing at all. On the other hand, the fanbase did a ton of talking, but you can't hold the university libel for the actions of the fanbase.
 
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