Best Value Coach

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I have done some quick analysis looking at coach salaries average wins/yr and longevity. Defining best value as cost per win on current contract. Note: I did an estimated Salary for Les Miles of $4.3M/yr. Not sure if that would get him or not. Avg P5 salary is in the low $4M range. I did an estimated Salary for Chip Kelly at $5M/yr. Took out Saban since his $11M is a significant outlier.
I also took out coaches who have averaged less than 8 wins per year.
I broke he coaches into two groups those who have been coaching 5+ yrs and those who have not.

For the seasoned coaches Brian Harsain at Boise topped the list at $180K per win. Career 730 win %.

For the Jr list it was short: Scott Satterfield at a mere $81K per win. And Chip Kelly at an estimated $434K per win.

And for those curious about our current coach. He is costing us about $544K per win. That is more than Mike Gundy, Bobby Petrino, Chris Petersen, Mark Dantonio, Bronco Mindenhall, Paul Johnson, Dana Holgerson to just name a few notables.
 

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Just pointing out you don't always get what you pay for. Kelly could be great value. Notice whose missing...Dan Mullen and Scott Frost.
 
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Thanks for the post. I really like statistical breakdowns like this. Great job OP.

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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
I have done some quick analysis looking at coach salaries average wins/yr and longevity. Defining best value as cost per win on current contract. Note: I did an estimated Salary for Les Miles of $4.3M/yr. Not sure if that would get him or not. Avg P5 salary is in the low $4M range. I did an estimated Salary for Chip Kelly at $5M/yr. Took out Saban since his $11M is a significant outlier.
I also took out coaches who have averaged less than 8 wins per year.
I broke he coaches into two groups those who have been coaching 5+ yrs and those who have not.

For the seasoned coaches Brian Harsain at Boise topped the list at $180K per win. Career 730 win %.

For the Jr list it was short: Scott Satterfield at a mere $81K per win. And Chip Kelly at an estimated $434K per win.

And for those curious about our current coach. He is costing us about $544K per win. That is more than Mike Gundy, Bobby Petrino, Chris Petersen, Mark Dantonio, Bronco Mindenhall, Paul Johnson, Dana Holgerson to just name a few notables.
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Thanks. You always seem to come up with good stuff:hi:.
 
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Take Frost, he's going to cost near $5M. Maybe he's the next coming of Urban Meyer, but it seems a risk. Odds we'll pay $3M-4M a year and get avg 8-4 every yr.
 
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Cost/win ratio has it's obvious downside. Coaches w a difficult SoS would be undervalued and those who don't play one would be overvalued. I think it's now behind a paywall, but CFBProfessor had a coaching rating that seemed right. It weighted wins based on whether they were expected or not. I'd be curious to see a cost/coach rating ration.
 
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I am the best value coach. I am convinced without a doubt I could win as many games as Butch has won and score as many touchdowns this year. I will gladly move back to K-town to take over at any point. I will do the job for free. I only want the extra TV money and job perks.
 
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so we're shopping at Dollar General now for our coach? Kmart blue light special?

lol.
 
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golfballs said:
Cost/win ratio has it's obvious downside. Coaches w a difficult SoS would be undervalued and those who don't play one would be overvalued. I think it's now behind a paywall, but CFBProfessor had a coaching rating that seemed right. It weighted wins based on whether they were expected or not. I'd be curious to see a cost/coach rating ration.
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True have to incorporate SoS into it...as well. But that argument could be countered with yeah competition is stepped up, but so are the resources the coach has to work with.
 
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jakez4ut said:
so we're shopping at Dollar General now for our coach? Kmart blue light special?

lol.
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I’m sick of bargain shopping for coaches whom we hope they’ll have success here.

If our Administration is not willing to spend the money for big time coaches, we don’t deserve them.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
I’m sick of bargain shopping for coaches whom we hope they’ll have success here.

If our Administration is not willing to spend the money for big time coaches, we don’t deserve them.
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all cards on the table, i don't want to spend a bunch of money on Chip Kelly.

it's about making the right hire, and for argument's sake, let's say it's one of the guys that has been tossed around out of the group of Fuente, Frost, Mullen, Brohm etc....

you're looking at probably having to spend in the neighborhood of $5M a year.

if you want to hire a Kelly or Gruden, just keep adding to that # until one of them says yes.

if we're only willing to spend in the 3.5-4.5M range, then we're going to wind up with another guy along the same lines of CBJ and hope this time, it works out.

so, i agree....not saying money is no object...but it can't be the reason you DON'T get the guy you want either.
 
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So - based on this conclusion - Dabo and Saban are the least valuable

You are missing two pieces

1. Valuing all benefits
Wins produce revenue.
Championships produce additional revenue
Building a brand reduces recruiting costs and adds talent value

2. Valuing strong conferences
Not all wins are created equal
Weak conferences don’t bring in nearly the revenue
 
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jakez4ut said:
all cards on the table, i don't want to spend a bunch of money on Chip Kelly.

it's about making the right hire, and for argument's sake, let's say it's one of the guys that has been tossed around out of the group of Fuente, Frost, Mullen, Brohm etc....

you're looking at probably having to spend in the neighborhood of $5M a year.

if you want to hire a Kelly or Gruden, just keep adding to that # until one of them says yes.

if we're only willing to spend in the 3.5-4.5M range, then we're going to wind up with another guy along the same lines of CBJ and hope this time, it works out.

so, i agree....not saying money is no object...but it can't be the reason you DON'T get the guy you want either.
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I like those 4 names in a row you mentioned
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
I’m sick of bargain shopping for coaches whom we hope they’ll have success here.

If our Administration is not willing to spend the money for big time coaches, we don’t deserve them.
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Quality typically costs money and rarely is it considered "value" in the short term.

Value comes when the guy you hired is earning that fat paycheck by piling up wins and adding SEC championships. If that happens, whatever you paid makes it a "value".
 
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If you’re just talking value, Charlie Strong would be basically free for the first few years because of his deal with Texas. I don’t want him, but it would be a steal financially.
 
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