Best QB since Peyton

Best QB since Peyton

  • Tee Martin

  • Casey Clausen

  • Eric Ainge

  • Rick Clausen

  • Josh Dobbs

  • Joe Milton

  • Hendon Hooker

  • Nico

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#51
#51
I have a hard time going with anyone other than HH. There's lots of "what if W or X had the same Y as Z" speculation and it's a difficult thing not to do. What we can say for certain is that while here Hooker had a 68.8cmp% (178pr) to go with 58tds vs 5 ints. That works out to 2.4tds per game and .2ints. That's pretty ridiculous. Chip in another 40+ypg on the ground for good measure and I'm not sure where else to go.
 
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#52
#52
#1fulmerite said:
Pick from these choices who you think was best QB since Peyton; or write it in.
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Actually, Tyler Bray not on this list is better than some on this list and he played for Dooley imagine if they'd had a D that year Sunseri screwed everything up. Bray would put up 45 and the D would give up 48 was very frustrating. Think he played 5 years for KC as a backup and then journeyman to a few teams.
 
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#53
#53
Hooker, Martin, Dobbs, C. Clausen, Ainge, Bray, Milton. Only ones really worth mentioning.
 
#54
#54
S.C. OrangeMan said:
Hooker was better than Dobbs, statistics wise, but he had a far better supporting cast, a far better coach, and a far better offensive scheme.

As an individual, Dobbs has the edge.

Also, I can't believe that no one is voting for Tyler Bray. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Bray in this offense would be unstoppable
 
#55
#55
It's Jim Bob Cooter, hands down.

Seriously, it has to be Tee. All he did was fill Godzilla-sized shoes and deliver a perfect season and a national championship.
 
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TC 83 said:
Hooker, Martin, Dobbs, C. Clausen, Ainge, Bray, Milton. Only ones really worth mentioning.
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That’s actually not a bad ranking. Tee played two full seasons and never made too many costly mistakes. He made a lot of much needed plays with his legs and throw some very nice deep balls, esp in the Natty. Also, the game, schemes and rules very different back in Peyton and Tee’s era. Don’t make the mistake of comparing stats with todays QBs. They throw a lot more short passes today that inflate %’s. Plus the defenses aren’t even allowed to play in todays game. They could still hit hard in the 90s.
 
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#58
#58
Clausen and Ainge had more arm talent, but Hooker ran the offense the best. He would have been a Heisman trophy finalist if he didn’t get hurt.
 
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jsc1973 said:
It's Jim Bob Cooter, hands down.

Seriously, it has to be Tee. All he did was fill Godzilla-sized shoes and deliver a perfect season and a national championship.
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lol. Check Tee Martin’s stats in 1998. He was on a team loaded with NFL talent. Tee Martin was an average to below average QB.
 
#60
#60
BigOrangeTrain said:
lol. Check Tee Martin’s stats in 1998. He was on a team loaded with NFL talent. Tee Martin was an average to below average QB.
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OK, how many quarterbacks on "teams loaded with NFL talent" failed to win a national championship, starting with his predecessor?

He must have done something right, because he did something a lot of other quarterbacks with just as much support failed to do.

But I am sure you'd come up with some other excuse. I suspect you'd have been happier going 9-4 with Burney Veazey, though. Assuming you were even around at the time.
 
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#61
#61
It was between Tee and Hooker for me. Hard not to choose a national championship winner, but I chose Hooker. Once he got the starting job, we had a different team. Didn’t have nearly the talent on BOTH sides of the ball Tee had, although Tee definitely saved some games or possessions with his legs. Tough call. Hooker’s last season, I had so much confidence in what he was doing because you could just tell he saw the entire field and everything going on in front of him. The guy walked into a complete crap show and was incredibly instrumental in turning us into one of the most prolific offenses in the country. Was hard not to pick Clausen too, though.
 
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ATLVols said:
Clausen and Ainge had more arm talent, but Hooker ran the offense the best. He would have been a Heisman trophy finalist if he didn’t get hurt.
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I think Hooker has better arm talent than people give him credit for. He was also very accurate which is most important.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
lol. Check Tee Martin’s stats in 1998. He was on a team loaded with NFL talent. Tee Martin was an average to below average QB.
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Again, you can’t compare stats from the 90s vs stats today. Different game, schemes, rules, limiting the ability of defenses to play aggressively, and a lot more short passes that inflate stats. Not apples to apples
 
#65
#65
Volizona said:
Again, you can’t compare stats from the 90s vs stats today. Different game, schemes, rules, limiting the ability of defenses to play aggressively, and a lot more short passes that inflate stats. Not apples to apples
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So compare Tee's stats to his contemporaries and Hooker's to his.
 
#66
#66
I can’t see how anyone could choose anyone other than HH. Played in the biggest environment Neyland had seen in years, biggest game TN had played in years and in a top 5 ranked matchup against a hated rival that you haven’t beat in a decade and a half and he just goes out there and leaves everything on the table. If he never played in any other game besides that one in his whole career here I’d still think he was the best since Peyton. Absolutely phenomenal player and person!
 
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#67
jaxvol said:
Looking at this list brought back lots of great memories of big plays.

Question to the thread...
...What highlight do you think of when you think of Nico?
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Running out of bounds in Fayetteville. I was there. Won't ever forget it.
 
#68
#68
jsc1973 said:
It's Jim Bob Cooter, hands down.

Seriously, it has to be Tee. All he did was fill Godzilla-sized shoes and deliver a perfect season and a national championship.
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Surprised he doesn't get more votes. I feel like people downplay what he did. Most of those games required a clutch gene. Manning choked Florida game every year. Obviously he worked thru that in the NFL but manning at UT will always have that Florida asterisk. Tee didn't flinch with the gators
 
#69
#69
jsc1973 said:
OK, how many quarterbacks on "teams loaded with NFL talent" failed to win a national championship, starting with his predecessor?

He must have done something right, because he did something a lot of other quarterbacks with just as much support failed to do.

But I am sure you'd come up with some other excuse. I suspect you'd have been happier going 9-4 with Burney Veazey, though. Assuming you were even around at the time.
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Yeah why didn't Peyton win the natty with nfl talent? Why is that always glossed over? Bc Peyton literally choked when he saw the gators every year. So not even an SECC for Peyton. Yet Tee did it.
 
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#71
VOL931 said:
Yeah why didn't Peyton win the natty with nfl talent? Why is that always glossed over? Bc Peyton literally choked when he saw the gators every year. So not even an SECC for Peyton. Yet Tee did it.
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Tee's career passing vs FL was 23 of 59 (39%) for 256y. In the '98 game he was 7 of 20 for 64y. Al Wilson had more to do with that FL win than Tee.

Look, it's silly for anyone to dis Tee but trying to leverage team accomplishments to underscore an individual is dubious business but it's simply this:

UT was the #17 rushing offense in the nation.
UT was the #17 total defense in the nation. (#6 in rushing and #9 in scoring defense)
UT was the #73 passing offense in the nation.

It's senseless (and unfair) to ignore Tee's role but '98 UT was far and away more reliant on running the ball and defense than the passing game.
 
#72
#72
Rick wasn’t a bad QB and the team seemed to support him while he was the QB. It’s just that he had to release the ball about five seconds earlier than most QB’s would.
 
#73
#73
DaddyChad said:
He owned Florida’s ass and that’s enough for me.
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You obviously weren't at the only home game that Casey started against Florida. The "Ice Man" fumbled about 7 times and an inferior Gator team coached by Ron Zook boatraced the Vols 30-13. And anyone that thinks Bray was any good at UT was not paying attention. He never prepared for games in the film room and he never won a game of any consequence in his time here. Plus, he lost to a Kentucky team who started a WR at QB and he outplayed Bray in the first loss to UK in 25 years.
 
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