Best QB is Shrout

#52
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Just hope Pruitt recognized what happens when you don’t utilize the quick hook reserved for everybody but Guarantano.
 
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Jaws said:
I thought Bailey did some good things early. Don’t give up on him just yet.

Shrout benefitted a little by a prevent defense and a defense that has done what they’ve done all year; relax and play like pansies once the offense has sealed the win.
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You relieved that you didn’t see Guarantano? 😏
 
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Backwards K said:
It was garbage time but he did have 2 90+ yd TD drives, he is more mobile than the JG and HB, his arm is stronger and he made quick decisions. As others said, he threw the ball upfield and the last TD was a great pass.

HB did nothing to show he is the hope for the future. He missed open receivers up field, is not any more mobile than JG. UF is not known as a great defense and HB only had one decent drive. Did not even have a second drive that got the Vols into FG range. If HB is not the next big thing, there is no reason to give him time over a more productive and athletic QB.
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Was also given play calls of run, run, pass on 3rd and long. Coaches set him up for failure. UF just pinned their ears back on 3rd down every time. That was one of the worst called games I've ever seen.
 
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You don't judge QB play by garbage time.

They all stink.

The difference is Bailey is a freshman, so that gives him a pass.

But, in the year 2020, there is no good option....which we figured out a long time ago.
 
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Shrout looked good against prevent defense. He has a better arm than hb at this point but it takes more than that. Jg has a good arm too.

my assessment:
- jg is our best overall option. But he holds the ball too long, so release, and stares down receivers which leads to... turnovers that have cost us games. So by defacto, he is not the starter we need.
- shrout may have the best arm. The argument could be said that after 3 years of jg not being who we need him to be that maybe shrout should have started to begin the season. But we don’t see practice. You have to trust the coaches that shrout is enough of the following, maybe he doesn’t get us in the right plays, maybe he makes ill advised throws, maybe he does not get on the same page with his receivers, etc etc, that he was rightfully not the guy. And if there’s pressure on Pruitt to win immediately, jg gave us the best option to do that. Unfortunately he still could t get pst the turnovers, if he had we could be 5-2 right now instead of 2-5 with only losses to bama and uga.
- hb is not the strongest arm (yet), does not command the offense as well (yet), isn’t on the same page as the receivers enough (yet), etc etc.

HB is our future qb. He can read defenses. He hasn’t connect on most his throws yet, but he doesn’t make ill advised throws. He’s a freshman that had no offseason. Next year he will be: stronger, have better command of the offense, be in better timing with receivers, etc etc. He’ll be the qb we need, but he has to get the reps, and his teammates around him need to help him out: no dropped passes, no free rushers, etc etc.
 
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He looked very good, but Bailey looked very good in garbage time versus Auburn, as well.

One thing is clear to me, though. I'd take either Shrout or Bailey over JG right now. Bailey made some mistakes (a few overthrows) and had a few miscommunication plays, but he's a true Freshman who came in during the a year with no real offseason. JG is a 5th year Senior. And I still think Bailey's mistakes were less bad than JG's.
 
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If HB is our future QB, than I don't feel good about the future. He is not athletic enough and missed a lot of open receivers on passes over 5 yds past the LOS. I am really hoping Salter is the future.

TBH, UT is just a bad football program and there are no indications of this getting any better anytime soon.
 
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Jaws said:
Actually, I admit, UT looked much more settled and under control without him. No disaster plays. He should never see the field again.
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To me, this is the biggest case against JG.

You can compare accuracy, mistakes, etc, between the QBs, but the offense just seems to run smoother with any QB that's not JG. I don't think JG reads defenses very well and he doesn't know how to adjust.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
He looked very good, but Bailey looked very good in garbage time versus Auburn, as well.

One thing is clear to me, though. I'd take either Shrout or Bailey over JG right now. Bailey made some mistakes (a few overthrows) and had a few miscommunication plays, but he's a true Freshman who came in during the a year with no real offseason. JG is a 5th year Senior. And I still think Bailey's mistakes were less bad than JG's.
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I don't know that Bailey threw a pad over 3 yards in that game.
 
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Backwards K said:
If HB is our future QB, than I don't feel good about the future. He is not athletic enough and missed a lot of open receivers on passes over 5 yds past the LOS. I am really hoping Salter is the future.

TBH, UT is just a bad football program and there are no indications of this getting any better anytime soon.
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Meh, it's his first game, and most of his mistakes were miscommunication related. That can be fixed.

Yeah, he overthrow on the 2 deep balls, as well, but he didn't make any disaster plays, which is what you're really concerned about with a Freshman.
 
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He looked good but it was when UF was playing very conservative and had some backups in. Hard to say.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Meh, it's his first game, and most of his mistakes were miscommunication related. That can be fixed.

Yeah, he overthrow on the 2 deep balls, as well, but he didn't make any disaster plays, which is what you're really concerned about with a Freshman.
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He was pressured on a couple of those and was just a tad bit off. I think he had a very promising performance for a true true (as I like to say)Freshman. I would've kept him into the whole game tho to get him more reps. Should be an interesting QB competition this off-season
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
One thing is clear to me, though. I'd take either Shrout or Bailey over JG right now. Bailey made some mistakes (a few overthrows) and had a few miscommunication plays, but he's a true Freshman who came in during the a year with no real offseason. JG is a 5th year Senior. And I still think Bailey's mistakes were less bad than JG's.
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Me too. Seems like JG has tried hard and all. I appreciate that. If he would have played though, there would have been at least one scoop & score, one pick six, and maybe one regular interception. Without him playing though there were no turnovers.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Meh, it's his first game, and most of his mistakes were miscommunication related. That can be fixed.

Yeah, he overthrow on the 2 deep balls, as well, but he didn't make any disaster plays, which is what you're really concerned about with a Freshman.
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You didn't address his lack of athleticism. Unless you have UF or Bama talent around them, you have to have an athletic QB to win in this league. HB is not going to make plays on his own. But, I hope you are correct.
 
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Lol stop. Shrout was playing against prevent defense and back up players. Bailey looked good today. Play calling was very vanilla, but I figured it probably would be given his first start against a talented FL team. Bailey made some plays with his legs and threw the ball pretty well overall. He gets his timing down on the deep throws and he'll be a star.

That being said, I'm glad Shrout played well. But temper expectations here.
 
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