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#126
#126
droski said:
Thinking there wont be significant improvement from the first game an offense line unit is together to the 13th is rather delusional by itself no?
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...and by the same token, our d-line won't be anywhere nearly as banged up in the season opener as they were at the end of last season.
 
#127
#127
GAVol said:
...and by the same token, our d-line won't be anywhere nearly as banged up in the season opener as they were at the end of last season.
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I tried to make the point that you were much healthier on the dline for the cal game than later in the season but somehow that got lost in the message.
 
#128
#128
Droski, here's some advice or whatever you want to call it. Your team is improved, so what? They've been terrible in the past. Your greatest moment is beating a bad team with the band on the field, great! Your team still hasn't won anything since 1975. Yes we haven't won a conference title since '98 but we know it. You are trying to agrue against the fan base of a program that is in the top ten of winningest programs in cfb history. Yes you have a nice team but stop trying to act like your team has a claim to anything. If you start winning titles then start talking but until then just be happy that you don't suck anymore.
 
#129
#129
JZVOL said:
Droski, here's some advice or whatever you want to call it. Your team is improved, so what? They've been terrible in the past. Your greatest moment is beating a bad team with the band on the field, great! Your team still hasn't won anything since 1975. Yes we haven't won a conference title since '98 but we know it. You are trying to agrue against the fan base of a program that is in the top ten of winningest programs in cfb history. Yes you have a nice team but stop trying to act like your team has a claim to anything. If you start winning titles then start talking but until then just be happy that you don't suck anymore.
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How am I acting like my team has a claim to anything? At no point have I flamed Tenn or disrespected your program. Or have I predicted Cal would win the national championship, blow out tenn, or anything else of that sort. I've merle argued that Cal isn't horrible and that the game will be a lot closer than last year (and a lot closer than some vol fans think). edit: I'm not sure what people expect me to do besides not post. You post something I believe not to be true, I give you my reasons why. Isn't that what a messageboard is all about?
 
#130
#130
droski said:
How am I acting like my team has a claim to anything? At no point have I flamed Tenn or disrespected your program. Or have I predicted Cal would win the national championship, blow out tenn, or anything else of that sort. I've merle argued that Cal isn't horrible and that the game will be a lot closer than last year (and a lot closer than some vol fans think). edit: I'm not sure what people expect me to do besides not post. You post something I believe not to be true, I give you my reasons why. Isn't that what a messageboard is all about?
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You just are fighting an uphill battle. You've never flamed UT at all. You've never claimed Cal has done anything.

However you do mention how close games that Cal lost were. That doesn't amount to much in an arguement.
 
#131
#131
justingroves said:
You just are fighting an uphill battle. You've never flamed UT at all. You've never claimed Cal has done anything.

However you do mention how close games that Cal lost were. That doesn't amount to much in an arguement.
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I only mention the close games against SC (which i'm assuming is what you are refering too) when people say things like "USC has always destroyed you" which is just not a factual statement. I never claimed a moral victory. I've seen the florida game mentioned by vol posters multiple times in threads btw.
 
#132
#132
droski said:
I only mention the close games against SC (which i'm assuming is what you are refering too) when people say things like "USC has always destroyed you" which is just not a factual statement. I never claimed a moral victory. I've seen the florida game mentioned by vol posters multiple times in threads btw.
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I can't speak for everybody, but I will never mention past losses as to how close UT was to anything.
 
#133
#133
But I like you Droski. You've been nothing but polite to people on this board.

However, if Tennessee doesn't win by at least 10, UT is in trouble for the remainder of games to be played
 
#134
#134
droski said:
How am I acting like my team has a claim to anything? At no point have I flamed Tenn or disrespected your program. Or have I predicted Cal would win the national championship, blow out tenn, or anything else of that sort. I've merle argued that Cal isn't horrible and that the game will be a lot closer than last year (and a lot closer than some vol fans think). edit: I'm not sure what people expect me to do besides not post. You post something I believe not to be true, I give you my reasons why. Isn't that what a messageboard is all about?
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I have read many of your posts saying you are significantly better than UCLA in football and they stole this and that from Cal. How are you so much better than UCLA? UCLA and USC are rivals. Stanford and Cal are rivals that says a lot. It looks like they have won 7 titles since 1978 so that would tell me they are better than Cal. You'll never be able to touch them in basketball so again how is Cal better than UCLA?

I guess I'm saying it's going to take several years of Cal's play on the field before people will start saying Cal is a force in football. You're not going to convince people by saying how good they are before the season starts when they have a history of bad football. Tedford is a good coach but your team has to prove it over the long haul and not just a few years of being good.
 
#135
#135
justingroves said:
But I like you Droski. You've been nothing but polite to people on this board.

However, if Tennessee doesn't win by at least 10, UT is in trouble for the remainder of games to be played
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:) Maybe, maybe not. We shall see. If the players feel the same way, I suppose a loss to Cal might be demoralizing enough to torpedo the rest of the season. :lolabove: Appreciate the kind words.
 
#136
#136
I'm not trying to be mean or anything just saying it's going to be tough to convince people how good you are till it is proven over a sustained period of time. Plus it's just a losing battle on a Vol board.
 
#137
#137
JZVOL said:
I have read many of your posts saying you are significantly better than UCLA in football and they stole this and that from Cal. How are you so much better than UCLA? UCLA and USC are rivals. Stanford and Cal are rivals that says a lot. It looks like they have won 7 titles since 1978 so that would tell me they are better than Cal. You'll never be able to touch them in basketball so again how is Cal better than UCLA?

I guess I'm saying it's going to take several years of Cal's play on the field before people will start saying Cal is a force in football. You're not going to convince people by saying how good they are before the season starts when they have a history of bad football. Tedford is a good coach but your team has to prove it over the long haul and not just a few years of being good.
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:crazy: UCLA and USC are rivals because they both are in LA. Cal and Stanford are rivals because they both are in the Bay Area. Ask any SC coach, player, or fan and they will tell you they have been more concerned about the Cal game than the UCLA game for years now. The records of the two programs and the recruiting rankings over the last 5 years speak for themselves.
 
#138
#138
BigPapaVol said:
I'm clearly not cut from the same analytical cloth than the likes of Cal grad. Are you kidding me? You were accepted at one of the best schools in the world (which, I might add, is leading in the Director's Cup). How could a UT fan ever compare? Maybe I should throw out of ton of stats from the web or steal ideas from talking heads. Then would I be analytical?

Your, typically statistical, 'analysis' very likely hides the fact that you empirically know "jack" about sports and need stats or some stolen garbage to help you make up your mind. By the by, your stats laden crap has done little to change the fact that the SEC is good and Cal stinks.
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I almost feel like *I* should be offended.
 
#139
#139
JZVOL said:
I'm not trying to be mean or anything just saying it's going to be tough to convince people how good you are till it is proven over a sustained period of time. Plus it's just a losing battle on a Vol board.
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I'm just bored and looking to talk some football. Trust me I don't get legitimately offended by anything said on this messageboard.
 
#140
#140
Recruiting rankings don't mean anything. How many conference titles have you won with those rankings?
 
#141
#141
JZVOL said:
I'm not trying to be mean or anything just saying it's going to be tough to convince people how good you are till it is proven over a sustained period of time. Plus it's just a losing battle on a Vol board.
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Hatvol said it best when he said the problem with the PAC 10 is sustained excellence. USC has for the most part always been good to great but the rest of the conference has been up and down. It's hard to brag about beating teams that have won nothing of significance in 20 + years.
 
#143
#143
justingroves said:
Hatvol said it best when he said the problem with the PAC 10 is sustained excellence. USC has for the most part always been good to great but the rest of the conference has been up and down. It's hard to brag about beating teams that have won nothing of significance in 20 + years.
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thanks, right on the $ :good!:
 
#145
#145
JZVOL said:
Recruiting rankings don't mean anything. How many conference titles have you won with those rankings?
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according to the pac-10 we won the conference last season. And until SC stops saying they won the pac-10 in 2002 when WSU beat them head to head, I'll consider last year a coconference championship. UCLA hasn't even sniffed a conference championship in that time.
 
#146
#146
hey hey hey we only lost to Florida, eventual national champs, by 1 point! WE WERE ONE POINT WORSE THAN THE NATIONAL CAHAMPSPS! GHPOVOLLLLS!
 
#147
#147
justingroves said:
Hatvol said it best when he said the problem with the PAC 10 is sustained excellence. USC has for the most part always been good to great but the rest of the conference has been up and down. It's hard to brag about beating teams that have won nothing of significance in 20 + years.
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I don't disagree.
 
#148
#148
droski said:
according to the pac-10 we won the conference last season. And until SC stops saying they won the pac-10 in 2002 when WSU beat them head to head, I'll consider last year a coconference championship. UCLA hasn't even sniffed a conference championship in that time.
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Doesn't the team that wins the PAC 10 get to go to the Rose Bowl? What teams played in that game?
 
#150
#150
droski said:
according to the pac-10 we won the conference last season. And until SC stops saying they won the pac-10 in 2002 when WSU beat them head to head, I'll consider last year a coconference championship. UCLA hasn't even sniffed a conference championship in that time.
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Answer this. How many times has Cal won an outright pac-10 title in the last 30 years? How many has UCLA won?
 
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