Bernie Sanders Thread

#651
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Kingston Vol said:
Yeah, that's what has us in the hole in the first place.

News flash: people are greedy.

Reaganomics!
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You atre right.. I am greedy with my money... Rather than the government pissing it away on worthless programs like why cows fart and countries that eventually hate us
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Yeah, that's what has us in the hole in the first place.

News flash: people are greedy.

Reaganomics!
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Politicians who have carelessly spent taxpayer money is why we are in a hole.

It's painful to hear someone railing about greed with the intent of voting for the guy who offers the most of other people's earnings.

I'm sure Bernie's goodies won't put us deeper in the hole.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Politicians who have carelessly spent taxpayer money is why we are in a hole.

It's painful to hear someone railing about greed with the intent of voting for the guy who offers the most of other people's earnings.

I'm sure Bernie's goodies won't put us deeper in the hole.
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FLVOL_79 said:
Gotta love democrats..Angry as hell at people earning good money and in the same breath demanding an increase to their minimum wage.
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I know. I wish more people could have to be frugal like the Clintons and have to make due with what meager money they have.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
We've got to do something about it before we lose control. I'd love for the change to be led by the CEO's and millionaires themselves - let them do the right thing and create good paying, stable jobs. But I have no faith that they will.

What do you think, Gramps? Although we don't always agree, it's easy to tell you're one of very few on this board that thinks things through before picking a side. You don't seem to fall in with the partisans.
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IMO, the Federal Minimum wage is not the problem. I think minimum wages should be a states issue. I am for a minimum wage, set by each state. It should be lower in Chattanooga, TN than it is in NYC or LA. Their is too much variance in the cost of living.

In East Tennessee $7.50 is okay, in NYC it is not. Most of the minimum wage jobs are for high school, college kids etc to make a few bucks.

The problem I see with the average blue collar worker is not the minimum wage, it is Employers have gone to using temp services for their workforce and overpay the CEO and upper tier.

Temp services are okay for professional jobs but they hurt the average working Joe. Men and women that were working for $14-20 per hour lost their jobs and had to go though temp services to find work. The problem is those jobs dropped from $14-20 per hour full time jobs to $8.50-10.50 per hour temp jobs. Most people live week to week, cut millions of people pay by 40-60% it leads to disaster

CEO pay has became ridiculous. According to Fortune the average CEO pay vs the average worker is 303 to 1. In 1965 it was 80 to 1.

In 1965, CEOs earned an average of $832,000 annually compared to $40,200 for workers. In 2014, CEO pay had risen to an average of $16,316,000 compared to only $53,200 for workers.

Not only is the CEO pay ridiculous they are rewarded for running the company into the ground. 2 that stand out to me are Home Depot and HP.

Carley Fiorina was fired as CEO of HP and walked away with 21 million bucks.

Bob Nardelli walked away with a 210 million severance package from Home Depot.

I am not against anyone making money. I like to make money but some of these large corporations have gotten out of hand, IMO.

As I hàve posted several times, pay your employees above average wages, make happy employees, happy employees tend to do a better job and stay with the company. Live good but also let your employees live. That is the way I always did business. That may be the old fashion way but it works.
 
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Gramps said:
CEO pay has became ridiculous. According to Fortune the average CEO pay vs the average worker is 303 to 1. In 1965 it was 80 to 1.

In 1965, CEOs earned an average of $832,000 annually compared to $40,200 for workers. In 2014, CEO pay had risen to an average of $16,316,000 compared to only $53,200 for workers.
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Resolved: figures are in 2013 dollars.
 
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For all the talk of "fair" and complaining about what CEO's make, and anyone supporting this socialist pos, please be so kind as to inform me of what your abode looks like, and what is in it.

If you really are against the high pay they earn and the evil capitalistic companies, I would expect your house to be a barren and empty place with nothing in it. Theoretically, you should be living in a man made tepee instead of a house or apartment or townhome, as all are built by the "evil rich".

I would expect you to have no TV, computer, furniture, and you would especially not own an iphone. I mean, that would be hypocritical, as you are supporting the very thing you are railing against and if you had these high and mighty feelings you would live quite meager. But, who cares about being full of it when all you have to do is point the finger at others instead of at yourself.

Vote for Bernie if you are a weak, naive, envious, and fragile being. And while you are at it, go read your history to learn how real socialism works, as the top of the pyramid do not live like the masses.
 
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tennvols77 said:
For all the talk of "fair" and complaining about what CEO's make, and anyone supporting this socialist pos, please be so kind as to inform me of what your abode looks like, and what is in it.

If you really are against the high pay they earn and the evil capitalistic companies, I would expect your house to be a barren and empty place with nothing in it. Theoretically, you should be living in a man made tepee instead of a house or apartment or townhome, as all are built by the "evil rich".
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No, you are allergic to life. You post as if you are a 20 year old pissed at what life is starting to teach you.

Stop being so jelly.
 
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