Bernie and a 3rd party run?

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Gramps said:
Let's just go completely crazy and have

D: Hillary

R: Whoever the GOP chosen to be their puppet.

I: Sanders

I: Trump


Trump wins big in a 4 way race.
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He will get popular vote but not get electoral college votes.

Imagine 2000 X10 is Trump loses the popular vote during the GOP convention and in the general election.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You can't get further left than HRC. She is a feminist and a communist. And to be honest, why would he have to move the party one way or the other? As long as the candidate has a (D) by their name, the core/base voter in that party will vote for Mickey Mouse.
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Bernie would probably highly disagree that you can't get further left than HRC. He wants the party to look more like him ideologically than her.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You act as though a crash or revolution is anti-American.

The purging needs to occur and will occur at some point. It is not a matter of "if", but "when". No matter who you choose in November, this country is still going to go over the cliff. You can either let it slow burn like what has occurred in Japan over the last 20-25 years or we can get it going immediately and start the rebuilding so that another generation of Americans don't have to have these problems rested on their shoulders.
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I act in knowing a crash isn't anti-American, but rather the aftermath will be something I don't think anyone wants or needs. And "purging" means people will be killed by magnifying the widespread rifts in this nation along economic, social, racial and religious lines. We aren't talking a few here and there in the metropolitan areas, but knowing nobody in this nation will be untouched by such an event as it will spread.

I act in knowing pure anarchy and violence isn't the solution to what you believe.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He will get popular vote but not get electoral college votes.

Imagine 2000 X10 is Trump loses the popular vote during the GOP convention and in the general election.
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Yep. That's a one-way ticket to a GOP president when the House gets to decide.
 
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UTCVol said:
I'm sure he saw winning the nomination as a goal that would speed up the process, but incremental change isn't the worst thing in the world. Now he has to hope that his base continues to fight for the policies he has promoted even after he's not front and center.

I was referring to Trump, who has no reason to be loyal to a party because his ideology is all over the place. Bernie is consistently to the left of the Democratic mainstream on almost every issue (besides guns, maybe).
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Yeah, he definitely wants to win, but also is planting seeds for his supporters to carry on in the future.

You're right about Trump, he's left then right. Bernie has been pretty consistent in his beliefs, and he is more in line with Reagan when it comes to guns (hunting, self defense, etc.).

Good posts 👍🏻
 
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UTCVol said:
Bernie would probably highly disagree that you can't get further left than HRC. He wants the party to look more like him ideologically than her.
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I actually think Bernie is a well intentioned individual that simply doesn't understand that you can't help people with more govt programs. I genuinely think he actually wants to help people and could/would be reasonable.

Hitlery is anything but well intentioned. She is evil, power hungry and calculating. She is the closest thing this country would ever see elected that would be a Stalin or Pol Pot. I wouldn't put murder past her if she were in office.
 
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UTCVol said:
Bernie would probably highly disagree that you can't get further left than HRC. He wants the party to look more like him ideologically than her.
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Yeah, HRC isn't as left (economically) as these guys think she is. Political Compass did a placement of the 2016 candidates on the political and economic spectrum based on where they stood on the issues. Bernie is way out in left field, when compared to the others.
 

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What would be fascinating would be if during a republican contested convention someone other than trump gets the nod, and then trump runs 3rd party, and then Bernie decides to run 4th party. That would be pretty crazy.
 
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Persian Vol said:
What would be fascinating would be if during a republican contested convention someone other than trump gets the nod, and then trump runs 3rd party, and then Bernie decides to run 4th party. That would be pretty crazy.
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4 candidates instead of 2 would be a step in the right direction, I suppose.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I act in knowing a crash isn't anti-American, but rather the aftermath will be something I don't think anyone wants or needs. And "purging" means people will be killed by magnifying the widespread rifts in this nation along economic, social, racial and religious lines. We aren't talking a few here and there in the metropolitan areas, but knowing nobody in this nation will be untouched by such an event as it will spread.

I act in knowing pure anarchy and violence isn't the solution to what you believe.
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A vote for Trump or Cruz or whoever the GOP decides on will only postpone the inevitable.

This country would have to go through a complete overhaul and see fundamental change to even hope to get the car out the ditch. That means everyone would have to make sacrifices. No voter is going to allow that to happen, however, because every one of you will say "cut the next guy's entitlement/pet program, but leave mine alone". So you won't get anywhere politically.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
A vote for Trump or Cruz or whoever the GOP decides on will only postpone the inevitable.

This country would have to go through a complete overhaul and see fundamental change to even hope to get the car out the ditch. That means everyone would have to make sacrifices. No voter is going to allow that to happen, however, because every one of you will say "cut the next guy's entitlement/pet program, but leave mine alone". So you won't get anywhere politically.
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The complete overhaul you wish for isn't what you think it will be. This nation might be the phoenix that rises from the ashes of what it once was, but the fires that burn in the immediate aftermath of a collapse will not be pretty.
 
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Grand Vol said:
The complete overhaul you wish for isn't what you think it will be. This nation might be the phoenix that rises from the ashes of what it once was, but the fires that burn in the immediate aftermath of a collapse will not be pretty.
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That was some deep ****
 
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Persian Vol said:
Didnt mean it in a bad way
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I know, but I'm agreeing with Ras (he probably just had a heart attack reading that) to an extent. I agree with him the country is in a slow decline and we are teetering on the brink where change is imperative. But I disagree we need a complete breakdown of society to bring about said change.
 
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He has accomplished what he wanted to in bringing these money and influence issues to the fore. He will have a nice slot at the convention. No real value to going rogue.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He has accomplished what he wanted to in bringing these money and influence issues to the fore. He will have a nice slot at the convention. No real value to going rogue.
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The problem is, as I outlined in the other thread, he is bringing in a segment of the voting base Hillary just can't connect with. The youth he has attracted is not going to come out in droves for her, regardless of how far left she goes. She is "establishment" in an election where, even you agree with, the voters are looking elsewhere.

Unless he gets the VP nod, which I highly doubt, Bernie supporters by and large are going to sit this one out.
 
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Grand Vol said:
The problem is, as I outlined in the other thread, he is bringing in a segment of the voting base Hillary just can't connect with. The youth he has attracted is not going to come out in droves for her, regardless of how far left she goes. She is "establishment" in an election where, even you agree with, the voters are looking elsewhere.

Unless he gets the VP nod, which I highly doubt, Bernie supporters by and large are going to sit this one out.
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I'd agree except that Trump is the likely nominee. He's the embodiment of so much those young people hate.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He has accomplished what he wanted to in bringing these money and influence issues to the fore. He will have a nice slot at the convention. No real value to going rogue.
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You're kidding yourself if you really believe that. He absolutely wants to be POTUS.
I know in your twisted liberal way of thinking he is pure as the driven snow and only wants what's best. But he is a political animal and has been for decades. Hell, that's the only type of job he's ever been able to keep.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I actually think Bernie is a well intentioned individual that simply doesn't understand that you can't help people with more govt programs. I genuinely think he actually wants to help people and could/would be reasonable.

Hitlery is anything but well intentioned. She is evil, power hungry and calculating. She is the closest thing this country would ever see elected that would be a Stalin or Pol Pot. I wouldn't put murder past her if she were in office.
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Yet you're voting for HRC. Wow
 
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Grand Vol said:
Still not going to bring them to the polls to vote against him.
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Let's say one third of them do. Add that to an enormous margin for Clinton amongst Hispanic voters, black voters, and even a small advantage with women, and it's a landslide for her.
 
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G0 BIG 0RANGE said:
Yeah, he definitely wants to win, but also is planting seeds for his supporters to carry on in the future.

You're right about Trump, he's left then right. Bernie has been pretty consistent in his beliefs, and he is more in line with Reagan when it comes to guns (hunting, self defense, etc.).

Good posts 👍🏻
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No. Just no
 
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